crazy Prof. from u of colorado

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Has any one been following this guy since his unreal writings about 9/11 well he is on the hot seat again I heard him speak a few times since then. This guy is not all there and sorry my little bleeders even i my middle of road more independent party person even thinks this jackoff has no business teaching at a state run school paid for by Colorado tax payers. They showed students who were for him and those against him.

it was funny those against him were clean cut jeans, polo shirts looked like college students, those for him were grunge looking plad shirts un tucked un buttoned with t shirt underneath, long hair even looked dirty holes in faded ripped jeans and off colored boat type tennis shoes like lime green, purple orange, well I world hire the first set of kid over 2nd set just based on dress alone, you come into look for a job say when i was a head coach first thing that caught my eye was your dress, your hair and nails.i could care less if the dirty looking long haired kids are smart as hell, look clean at least.You can have long hair and still keep it neat. to say some of the remarks i did some searching this guy has said over the years is just off the charts, but the 9-11 remarks and writings were way out here.

Nick d sorry yes your my friend but I see you backing a guy like this as a prof. this guy is still stuck in Berkley. he should get the ax but tough once you have tenure in the state system.

This guy lives in another world maybe mars what alost soul. i don't say much about things like this keep them and thoughts to me but this guy has no business teaching in a state run college.
 

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Fletch-- Oreilly on Fox had big thing on him few nights ago--and since that time I saw today the college in New York has canceled his speaking engagement there and also today they are having meeting in Colorado about his future employment there. Will know more tonight.
 

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i dont know why the taxplayer dollar goes towards this nut

im all for freedom of speech, but an academic setting where this guy can brainwash other people is not the setting -- at least one funded by the state
 

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I'm with the Right on this one --- easily. The guy has no business teaching at any level. He's easy fodder for the O'Reillys and Hannitys of the world. Sets any decent Democrat arguments back a few strides when they defend him.

Sure, he has a right to speak. But teachers at all levels must be verbally neutral on these kind of things - to say nothing of the fact that his view in itself is so convoluted.
 

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actually dan, we live in a constitutional republic, governed by the rule of law

and in that law certain rights are granted to the people, and if you work for the government you are accountable to the people.

that is your civics lesson for the day

i agree with the Englishman, your posts are quite funny....especially when you talk about IQ
 

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Operative phrase "we live in a constitutional republic, governed by the rule of law" Amen!
 

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smurphy said:
I'm with the Right on this one --- easily. The guy has no business teaching at any level. He's easy fodder for the O'Reillys and Hannitys of the world.

murph, I listened a little to O'Reilley this afternoon on his radio show, and he said he did NOT think he should lose his job over the comments as they are free speech. He also quoted a poll where around 60% were for his dismissal, 35% against, and 5% who don't care. I thought his comments were interesting to say the least, and I suppose he'll talk about this on the factor tv show tonight.
 

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Isn't he the one that tells the audience they don't have to think, he'll do the thinking for them or is he the phone sex guy?
 

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First of all, if there is evidence that he is promoting the type of hateful rhetoric in his personal writings during university classes, then he should be fired. I do not, however, believe in firing *anyone* for their personal actions as long as their work is relatively unaffected (extreme cases excepted, obviously).

What I dislike about this story is O'Reilly's hypocricy. Let's take a look at a rough timeline:

-Churchill writes inflammatory comments about 9/11 victims.

-Churchill is invited to speak at Hamilton.

-O'Reilly notifies his audience that this should be stopped AND POSTS THE EMAIL ADDRESS OF THE COLLEGE PRESIDENT ON HIS WEBSITE, encouraging viewers to contact her, but, "keep it respectful."

-The college president receives, "credible death threats," and decides to cancel Churchill's appearance.

-O'Reilly lauds both the college president AND HIS VIEWERS THAT WROTE HER for helping cancel this appearance. He implores his viewers to write her giving thanks for making the right decision. He also states that Churchill should not be fired from his job in Colorado.

Now, we all know that O'Reilly is Mr. Personal Responsibility. To rap stars, he tells them to clean up their lyrics and misogynistic imagery and endorses people in the hip hop industry who point the finger at their own brethren. To Muslims, he tells militants to clean up their act when it comes to anti-American actions and endorses people in the Islamic community who point the finger at their own brethren.

Here we have a case of Conservatives Gone Wild with death threats almost certainly being sent by O'Reilly viewers (see: timeline) and other conservatives, yet does he point the nasty finger at his brethren and tell them that sending death threats is wrong? No. Instead he essentially ignores the fact that his show could have been partially responsible for death threats being sent en masse to an academic institution and congratulates himself for being the bully pulpit responsible for Churchill's appearance being canceled.

Being fair, I am glad to see his appearance canceled. Trust me, there is enough liberal and secular bullshit on the average college campus these days for three student bodies. BUT IT'S STILL WRONG TO SEND DEATH THREATS TO A COLLEGE OVER A F*CKING GUEST SPEAKING APPEARANCE. Why can't powerful conservatives acknowledge their wrongdoing in situations like this?

For those that wonder why liberals (or progressives, or whatever you want to call folks like me) look down on middle America and loathe Bush and the neo-cons, look no further. Liberals hate hypocrisy. Say what you want about O'Reilly being a superb journalist, insightful commentator and hard working Christian (all true), the man is a consistent hypocrite who dishes out criticism constantly and whines like a petulant child when sharp critique comes back his way.

Also CAN WE PLEASE STOP WITH THE CHARACTER ASSASINATION, danmurphy jr? Hot damn, it pisses me off when people read The Smoking Gun and then slime the victims of that website every chance they get.
 

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i am sure these "death threats" are credible too

o'reilly asked for people to keep things respectful...why do you fault him for this?

dont see the problem...no one is advocating threats
 

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in an earlier thread i posted his remarks about WMD's and how he knew that they were there in Iraq

then he spouts off about how he was lied to about them

hows that for one
 

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Whether he gave a tacit request to keep things clean is somewhat irrelevant. You had to have seen the show and the tone he had towards the college. Saying, "keep it clean," when your manner and tone say, "do what it takes to keep this crazy bastard off campus," predictably resulted in death threats. Simply, 'not advocating,' death threats isn't enough when you are probably partially responsible for them. Condemning them is the right move.

For the record, I don't believe for one second that they canceled the appearance because of safety concerns. I do, however, believe that they did receive death threats from O'Reilly's viewers.
 

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every liberal social program out there is hypocritical

they claim to help people, but instead they inactivate them and feed them taking away all self-reliance, fattening them, induce addictions, translate down the generations as offspring acheive less etc. etc. and have the same health related problems
 

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Nick Douglas said:
Whether he gave a tacit request to keep things clean is somewhat irrelevant. You had to have seen the show and the tone he had towards the college. Saying, "keep it clean," when your manner and tone say, "do what it takes to keep this crazy bastard off campus," predictably resulted in death threats. Simply, 'not advocating,' death threats isn't enough when you are probably partially responsible for them. Condemning them is the right move.

For the record, I don't believe for one second that they canceled the appearance because of safety concerns. I do, however, believe that they did receive death threats from O'Reilly's viewers.

bullshit, i watched the same program and clearly saw it as an admonition to people

he blantantly said that anything not respectful would hurt the cause

funny how you liberal thought police always see it different with your slanted viewpoint
 
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