Customer At Internet Cafe Shoots 2 Robbers

[The Joker]

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[kickserv]

When you are looking at porn and two dudes come in and rob ya......it is on:firing:

 

[william13]

When you are looking at porn and two dudes come in and rob ya......it is on:firing:

you mean soapy porn .....

 

[kickserv]

true.....true.

 

[greggraffin]

guess it all worked out, seems stupid of the dude to fire on them, could have caused way more harm then good

 

[gardenweasel]

rules of gunfighting:

1) have a gun

2)...........................

 

[gardenweasel]

"The suspects ran out the door after they were shot. Investigators tracked them down at Shands Hospital."


/it`s good that no amberlamps was necessary.....

 

[The Joker]

guess it all worked out, seems stupid of the dude to fire on them, could have caused way more harm then good

I thought the same thing.

Then again - how are we to know and the man was within his rights to do what he did.

Maybe he is a better shot than he looks.

 

[Sportsaholic]

I thought the same thing.

Then again - how are we to know and the man was within his rights to do what he did.

Maybe he is a better shot than he looks.

Probably staying at the local Holiday Inn Express......:shrug:

 

[gardenweasel]

71 years old?...i was surprised that he was able to chase those mofos out of the establishment(without a wheelbarrow to carry his balls in).....

 

[hedman]

Grandpa is lucky those were a couple of punk kids and not hardened criminals or he would be a dead man and may have caused the deaths of many others in that cafe.

I know I am probably in the minority, but I think what he did was foolish and it could be argued that when he shot them as they were leaving he was not within his rights of self protection and instead was taking the law into his own hands. I know I don't want some vigilantly nut job trying to protect me and my kids at a bank and escalating the situation.

Again, if these two punks were hardened criminals he would have been dead and probably others at that point, as once you kill one person during a crime the more you kill does not matter.

 

[BuckwheatJWN]

Wasn't he a pretty bad shot. They were able to keep running. :shrug:

 

[The Joker]

Wasn't he a pretty bad shot. They were able to keep running. :shrug:

They fled.
They were found at the hospital.
Seems he hit them.....

He could have been using a 9mm as well........

 

[BuckwheatJWN]

Just seems his first shot should have put him down. Of course that probably only happens in movies. Like the way "silencer's" victims never make a noise when shot. :0corn

 

[gardenweasel]

Grandpa is lucky those were a couple of punk kids and not hardened criminals or he would be a dead man and may have caused the deaths of many others in that cafe.

I know I am probably in the minority, but I think what he did was foolish and it could be argued that when he shot them as they were leaving he was not within his rights of self protection and instead was taking the law into his own hands. I know I don't want some vigilantly nut job trying to protect me and my kids at a bank and escalating the situation.

Again, if these two punks were hardened criminals he would have been dead and probably others at that point, as once you kill one person during a crime the more you kill does not matter.

awful lot of supposition there ,bub,,,...looked to me like one dude was carrying...and there was nothing to stop him from turning around and shooting someone....i always thought it would be smart to keep firing ubntil the threat was disabled or eliminated...you can sort it out later...

and while we`re fanatasizing,how do you know that they wouldn`t have shot or used the baseball bat on someone in the cafe?....you`d rather leave your welfare in the hands of those punks?....maybe hopped up on crack or something worse?....

you can lay down and stick your ass in the air..grandpop had other ideas....

i wouldn`t be surprised if he was a veteran...

 

[greggraffin]

Grandpa is lucky those were a couple of punk kids and not hardened criminals or he would be a dead man and may have caused the deaths of many others in that cafe.

I know I am probably in the minority, but I think what he did was foolish and it could be argued that when he shot them as they were leaving he was not within his rights of self protection and instead was taking the law into his own hands. I know I don't want some vigilantly nut job trying to protect me and my kids at a bank and escalating the situation.

Again, if these two punks were hardened criminals he would have been dead and probably others at that point, as once you kill one person during a crime the more you kill does not matter.

exactly my thoughts, the idiot robbers could have just started firing out of confusion and hurt a lot of people...

 

[gardenweasel]

exactly my thoughts, the idiot robbers could have just started firing out of confusion and hurt a lot of people...

and then again,people are irrational so you can never be sure what their true intent and limits are....throw in the potential that they might have been hopped up on something(not a stretch),and you have no way of knowing how this scenario plays out......

i`m guessing that the hero felt as though he had to respond to their threat capacity rather than what you *think* they might do....

everybody can sit in their ivory tower and say that the old guy rolled the dice on the life of everybody in that cafe... and you can say the same may have been the case if he hadn`t acted...

what we do know is that it ended well...the guy shouldn`t have to buy another drink for the rest of his life,imo....

moral?...never interupt gramps when he`s winning at video poker....:rimshot

i`m hitting the road...solid discussion,my brothers....:toast:

 

[The Joker]

Just seems his first shot should have put him down. Of course that probably only happens in movies. Like the way "silencer's" victims never make a noise when shot. :0corn

Not a 9mm - it will slice through a target. Like hot butter.

A .40 would spin them like a top. Set them on their ass.

 

[fatdaddycool]

The gun by it's mere design looked to me to be either a Beretta 418 .25 caliber or could have been a Walther PPK but I I am not sure. Neither one of them have the knock down power to drop a man in his tracks unless a well placed shot.

If we are going to speculate as to what could have happened, well then yes, he could have hurt something. If we look at what actually happened, he thwarted a crime, put the criminals in the hospital where they can now do time and think about whether or not they want to get loaded on meth and go shoot up a place next time?!! I am sure that all the innocent people that didn't get harmed were very grateful and the old man is now answering all the questions that go along with having a recording of you go public.

Everybody has an opinion and not everyone acts on it. It doesn't take balls to shoot someone that is a threat. It takes the resolve to allay your fear of kill or be killed, steady hands, a loaded weapon, eyesight and a finger. After that it's simply a matter of finding the target, breathing and squeezing.

You can "hurt" someone by sending a foul ball into the stands too, or losing control of your car and hitting a pedestrian. I didn't see anyone tell the man they think it was foolish to shoot at someone that is a DIRECT threat to them, at least not anybody that was actually there and was in the unfortunate situation. Maybe those that find it irresponsible to protect yourselves can try reasoning with the armed men if they get lucky enough to prove their mettle rather than just speculate on that of others. JMHO


Hope that helps,
FDC

 

[fatdaddycool]

Not a 9mm - it will slice through a target. Like hot butter.

A .40 would spin them like a top. Set them on their ass.

That depends solely on the weapon and the load. A Browning Hi Power, which is my favorite 9mm, can fire a 147 grain bullet at about a 1000 ft per second whereas the .40 can take a 187 grain to around the same if not up to 1200 ft/sec. The difference in stopping power at these speeds is negligible. While the standard pressure 9mm generally fires a 115 grain round, most manufacturers now have made Hi Powers more readily capable of taking a larger ballistic round. Stopping power is more directly related to shot placement when it comes to comparing these two weapons. Again, this is what I know about the weapons I mentioned, others may be more educated in the matter. I don't know.


Hope that helps,
FDC