Democratic Plan to Keep us Safe-Be More Like the Europe!

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By - Laura Ingraham


Thank God for C-Span. For two days it broadcast the speeches by Democratic
presidential hopefuls attending their party's winter meeting, and for two
days we were reminded why the Dems keep losing elections. They claimed to
speak up for "the regular people," but it became clear that their "regular
people" are more like George Clooney than Ward Cleaver.

Some highlights from the candidates:

Dick Gephardt reached back to the 2000 recount to rally the crowd: "George
Bush is not gonna be easy to beat. This is a guy who came in second in the
election and still figured out how to get in the Oval Office."

Former Senator Carol-Mosely Braun, who avoided prison a few years back,
wowed the crowd with: "Duct tape is no substitute for diplomacy!" When she
was asked what her college major had been, she responded haltingly, "Uh.I
think history.but I'll get back to you on that." (nervous laughter)

Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, proud leftist, is an early media-darling: "What
I want to know is why in the world the Democratic Party is supporting the
president's unilateral attack on Iraq?" Can someone please tell the
Democrats that the prefix "uni-" means one. We have dozens of nations
supporting us in any war against Saddam.

Dennis Kucinich, full-time Ohio Congressman and part-time ventriloquist,
tried to out-do Gov. Dean, stage left. He condemned the prospect of a war
"initiated by our own government against a nation which did not attack
us." At one point he sounded like he was speaking for the Iraqi Ministry
of Information: "Iraq was not responsible for the anthrax attack on our
nation. Iraq does not have the technology to strike at this nation. Iraq
does not have nuclear weapons." Call Al Jazeera!

Al Sharpton, part-time reverend, full-time racial provocateur, was not
content to take swipes at Bush, he took on the Supremes too: "[Bush] is
the ultimate beneficiary of a set-aside program. The Supreme Court
set-aside a whole election for him." Actually a pretty funny line, but
wouldn't it be grand if Sharpton lavished such vitriol on Saddam?

But perhaps the most disturbing speech was that given by so-called
Demohawk Sen. Joe Lieberman. Lieberman fell all over himself to explain
how you can be for a war against Saddam in Iraq and still wage war against
Bush at home: "By pulling out of the Kyoto global warming treaty, arms
control treaties and other international pacts, and by issuing an
unnecessary and divisive policy of military pre-emption, George W. Bush
has separated us from most of the rest of the world and weakened our
alliances just at the time when we need them more than ever." Translation:
If America becomes as liberal as France and Germany on issues unrelated to
Iraq, France and Germany will help us in Iraq.

Strip away the Democratic rhetoric, and what you'll find is the core
belief that America should really stop acting like a super power. The
Democrats believe the best way to protect against terrorist attacks is to
act less like a dominant force and more like a domesticated global
partner. This essentially requires that we sign on to treaties such as the
one creating the International Criminal Court, or remain bound by accords
like the ABM treaty, regardless of whether they are in our national
interest.

Why stop there? Let the Europeans dictate our tax policy as well. In
recent days the heads of the European Central Bank and euro-zone finance
ministers have expressed "deep skepticism" about President Bush's tax cut
plan. Whether the issue is tax policy, gun control, health care, abortion,
the environment, or the death penalty, Democrats are more in sync with
Europe than America.

Memo to the Democratic presidential field: Europeans don't vote in
American elections. At least not yet.

E-Blast Extra: (New York, NY) Not only did Sunday's Grammy Awards not turn
into a 3- hour commercial for the anti-Bush/Blair/take-out Saddam crowd,
the few brief attempts to inject politics into the evening triggered no
spontaneous outburst of cheers. Fred Durst of Limp Bizkit lived up to his
group's name when he said: "I think we're all in agreeance (sic) that this
war needs to be stopped." Good news: I wasn't the only one groaning in the
first 10 rows.

WORD OF THE WEEK

Pusillanimous, adj. Lacking courage or cowardly.

The pusillanimous attitudes of the French in standing up to terror will
eventually come back to haunt them.
 

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Re: Democratic Plan to Keep us Safe-Be More Like the Europe!


WORD OF THE WEEK

Pusillanimous, adj. Lacking courage or cowardly.

The pusillanimous attitudes of the French in standing up to terror will
eventually come back to haunt them.
:cool: :cool: :cool: Quality stuff....good post Blitz.:cool: :clap:
 

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Your right The Democratic presidential wannabees don't get it. If one of them took a strong anti Iraq war stance they would emerge as a strong contender. It is just dumb politics to side with an incumbant president on a war that is about 50 pecent approved of in this country and 10 percent out of the country. People in both parties have mixed feelings about going to war with a country that does not want to go to war with us and has not ever attacked us.
 

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Just a question: didn't the last conflict in the Pursian Gulf result in appoximately 600,000 Iraqi casualties and 148 US battle deaths and 145 nonbattle deaths? (found a site which listed the US casualties but not the Iraqi casualties) Not real sure re the Iraqi death numbers. Any info would be most appreciated.
 

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ridiculing duct tape is bullshit....although it might work for a great soundbite and put Mosely Braun pose condescending to Bush, she should not ridicule anything that might work....can't believe this....

actually it would be smart to have it.....in a war against terror a big part of it is civilian defense...in fact that may be our ONLY defense.....duct tape actually would work to keep microorganisms/chemicals at least in part out of house....at least help somewhat and undoubtedly would save many lives if we were gassed or bugged or something....

need all the planning we can get.....bad bad bad idea to ridicule anything that would help....

Mosely Braun is running for 1 reason and 1 reason only...Sharpton would embarrass the democrats....Mosely is out there to take away some of the black vote from him....they don't want him to get to outspoken.....already Sharpton points to Kennedy and Hilliary when asked questions about his past and says if Teddy doesn't get asked about his fiasco and Hillary gets a free ride with all her crooked schemes and husband's indiscretions and why she is such a great feminist for putting up with that shit then why does Sharpton have to answer about his past.....very amusing indeed....liberal media doesn't know what to do....
 

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Hi guys it's me!:D Lets start with that duct tape. After I seal that room in my house up realtight and the plactic is hanging on the windows and the furnace ducks. I guess when the room runs out of air in about 4 hours. I die anyway.
As to any plan that works short of war. Thats a great plan. Anyway to keep bodybags coming home is awinner. Anyway to stop spending over 100 bilion is a winner. We can sure as heck use that cash here for homeland security. Plus many other items. Anyone you know that has a differant opinion of war then your own. Thank them for there thoughs. We had many die for the right of all to speak there mind. You try to hush them and you end up hushing your self. Any right you feal they dont have then you give up the same right. I saw my fill of body bags. I hope the SOB leaves the country just in time to save his ass. Keep in mind in 1991 we had many countries with us. There were over 600 thousand troops station in mid east and invoulved with the 91 war. Were sitting at around 180 today. That total includes our friends. If you think that sounds like were ready to go. Lets go. I think we are only half ready. And to keep buyng friends we will soon be broke. So this plan we have right now I would say is not the greatest either.
 

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djv.....duct tape would filter the air.....would at least help....never ridicule an idea that would at least help in this day and age.....never know.....it would save lives if employed after a bio attack

if you have better ideas than let us all know....and spending $$ on homeland security?? what will that do? invade our privacy even more???

how bout spending the $$ on border patrol and keeping out the bums who get in here illegally....or better yet going through and getting rid of all those who are here illegally and sending them back
 

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dr. freeze said:


how bout spending the $$ on border patrol and keeping out the bums who get in here illegally....or better yet going through and getting rid of all those who are here illegally and sending them back

AMEN:hail ....This is what I would like to see Bush do rather than go after Saddam.Clean up are own backyard first.Way to many fence jumpers and terroists walking the streets of this great land.If Clinton would have used our military to guard the borders...this country wouldnt be in the shape it is today.I dont understand why Pres Bush doesnt clean up his mess.
 

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Those borders have been wide open for over 30 years. And yes I agree some dollars to do that is a great idea. As for ducktape that allows the air to go through it. Im guessing some of those agents would come through and kill you. Money spent on doing all possiable to prevent it from happing is well spent. See our CIA,FBI,NSA get funded along with local inforcement. We just have to make sure we spend it in the right place. I dont have all the answers, no one does. But we can at least try some of these steps.
 

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JHPGA -- I can't really get into it today (bit busy) but I have a couple questions...

1) Do you really think we wouldn't be in the shape we're in today if Clinton had used the military to guard the borders?

2) If using the military to guard the border is such a good idea...
a) Were Reagan and Bush doing that? Because I can't remember them doing that. I seem to remember the US helping Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda back in the Reagan years though.

b) Before we were amassing our forces to fight Iraq, why wasn't Bush using the military to guard the border?

3) Is that a serious point about Clinton using the military to guard the borders, or just a humorous exaggeration based on how people can blame him for every possible thing ever wrong with this country?

4) How do you think Colin Powell, or Donald Rumsfeld would feel about using the military to guard the borders? Would they agree with that suggestion?
 

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djv....thats right you are "guessing".....well if you think that air wont get through (you said you will suffocate) and the microorganisms will, then you are implying that the microbes or toxins are larger than an Oxygen molecule....although most toxins aren't much bigger, microbes are several orders above an oxygen molecule in size.....

duct tape would serve as a filter.....and the best filter we have right now....would work to some degree....since most infections and toxins take a cumulative effect to kill you, then lives would definitely be saved if employed as a civil defense mechanism

you are an independent think so you say....sometimes i think that all you like to do is rail Bush on anything and everything -- typical of most democrats -- then offer no solution to the problem....well, here you grabbed a soundbite from dem's and other mockers that is completely wrong and them using it as an derogatory mechanism to Bush is both dangerous because it could potentially take lives that could be spared and not thought out at all....

i haven't bought any ducttape yet, but if a threat becomes more likely so i think, i will be running to stores and buying some just in case....
 

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Yeah D:

All you do is rail on Bush. I mean Blitz, Freeze, Dogs, 65 and other, shall we say, more convervative members of this forum never rail on....say..... Clinton. I mean he's only been out of office for 2 years now.

Why is it that whenever I respond to Dr. Freezes' posts I think I'm in a Batman movie. As long as Dr. Freeze, Catwoman and the Riddler don't team up, I think we will be ok boy wonder.

Holy duct tape,

Ed
 

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I was not jumbing on Bush about anything. Bush never mentioned duct tape it was one of his cabinet members. I also thought I gave some ideas of hoe we should spend some money to prevent it form happing in the first place. Our borders are one spot. We are in even bigger problems with our ports. Thousands of containers come into the US every week. About 10% get inspected. There short funds at this time to hire more folks. So we have a large military that a few thousands could be trained to help. Just another examble. We need to do more so you never have to buy your duck tape. You want to see someone jump on Bush look at the depate thread. I didn't start it. But if those are real quotes There sad. And yes I agree we need not be like our friends (they were at one time) in Europe. But if you wish us not to be like them. Well you should send anote to the white house and tell them to stop giving our/your money away to them. This buy there vote crap is dam sure wrong. The hell with France and Germany and Russia. There either with us or not. But no more free lunches from us.
Now do you still think I sound only like a liberal. That my friend is as right as a person can get. Thats Pat Buchann talk.
 
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TheShrimp said:
JHPGA -- I can't really get into it today (bit busy) but I have a couple questions...

1) Do you really think we wouldn't be in the shape we're in today if Clinton had used the military to guard the borders?

2) If using the military to guard the border is such a good idea...
a) Were Reagan and Bush doing that? Because I can't remember them doing that. I seem to remember the US helping Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda back in the Reagan years though.

b) Before we were amassing our forces to fight Iraq, why wasn't Bush using the military to guard the border?

3) Is that a serious point about Clinton using the military to guard the borders, or just a humorous exaggeration based on how people can blame him for every possible thing ever wrong with this country?

4) How do you think Colin Powell, or Donald Rumsfeld would feel about using the military to guard the borders? Would they agree with that suggestion?

Well Im not big on political debates cause people are either on one side or the other.But I do think Clinton did good things for this country however his protection of this country was not one of his strong points.I will try to answer your questions:

1.Im not sure of the numbers exactly but G.Liddy has said there was less than 500,000 illegal immigrants when Clinton took office and over 3 million when he left.

2.I dont remember Al-Qaeda being around during the Reagan years.I believe they formed in the early 90's.And Reagan and Bush must have been doing something right cause the flood of illegal immigrants came in the 90's.
B.I wish we were using forces to help protect this country right now.That was my point in replying to Dr.Freeze comment

3.I dont blame every thing on Clinton.However he should have been more aggresive with Osama Bin Laden.Might have prevented this country's worst tragedy if he at least kept Bin Laden on the run.

4.They probably do agree but this is a complex issue.Guarding our borders with troops would cost a fortune but I do believe it would make America safe.....

We can all have suggestions and comments but what we say here will never happen.We will go to war with Iraq,people will protest,and illegals will continue to flood over the border....this is just the world we have come to live in
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Jhpga- Amen to your last paragraph. I wish there were troops on our borders cause that makes more sense to me than guarding the same in other countries. As an ex-serviceman I wouldn't like the duty, especially being a VFW, (Veteran of Foreign Whores), but it would be a win-win situation-IMHO.
I'd also like to rant about the Illegal Aliens in our prison system and Why the F*ck can't we decriminalize Ganga?:mad: Guess I'm back to your last paragraph.
P.S. I could get some Thai Stick that would straighten your short hairs.;)
 
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Someone else here thats herd of Thai Stick. Wow that shot me back a few years.
 
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