Because isn't it a given that David Duke would win in that state? Against anybody?
If you had said 'Nancy Pelosi', it would have made more sense.
Anyways, i'm obviously bored.
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Because isn't it a given that David Duke would win in that state? Against anybody?
If you had said 'Nancy Pelosi', it would have made more sense.
Anyways, i'm obviously bored.
Yes it's a given that Duke would win against any non white but Obama would lose against any White was the point. I guess we are both bored.
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But the point is much better made by offering an opponent of Obamas that is the polar opposite of the general ideology of the denizens of West Virginia.
Obama losing against Duke would be no big deal because Duke would beat anybody there, anyways.
Obama losing to Pelosi makes your point much better because Pelosi would beat virtually nobody there. Except Obama.
I need to find a different thread to post in.
Not at all Matt--I'm sure he gets most the educators--in addition the 2 highest pulls from dems in national elections are those that did not finish high school and post graduate(working class ?)Obama will be no exception. Then you have figure who he's running against-who before obama most polarizing candidate.
I'll have to check Bryants stats when i get to office in am --but until then if you have your figures handy give us the breakdown since the wright story boke
Your looking at a guy who is declared winner by some losing by 40%--going to have to give you all a high five for optomism for a change
P.S. I like your Duke/O comparisons
reminds me of liberal on CNN who said 90% + of blacks voting for Obama was not racist but rather racial association--can you imagine what they'd say if 90+ of whites voted against Obama:SIB
Ah the mindset of the P.C. crowd--it just amazes me.
You have area with 90% blacks--committing 90% of crime-and its racial profiling because they get stopped 90% of time--somehow I see it as a statistical probabilty--but thats just me
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sometimes your intelligence just makes me
feel dumb founded.
your welcome here anytime.
McCain: U.S. can win Iraq war within 4 years
GOP presidential candidate spells out his vision for White House
McCain: I'd bring troops home by 2013
May 15: In a speech in Columbus, Ohio, John McCain outlines what he hopes his presidency would look like by the end of his first term if he were to be elected.
updated 12:12 p.m. ET, Thurs., May. 15, 2008
COLUMBUS, Ohio - John McCain , looking through a crystal ball to 2013 and the end of a prospective first term, sees "spasmodic" but reduced violence in Iraq and Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden dead or captured and government spending curbed by his ready veto pen.
The Republican presidential contender also envisions April's annual angst replaced with the option of a simpler flat tax, illegal immigrants living humanely under a temporary worker program, and political partisanship driven by weekly news conferences and British-style question periods with joint meetings of Congress.
In a speech Thursday, McCain conceded he cannot make the changes alone, but he wanted to outline a specific governing style to show the accomplishments it can achieve. He backed up his remarks with a Web ad featuring similar content.
"I'm not interested in partisanship that serves no other purpose than to gain a temporary advantage over our opponents. This mindless, paralyzing rancor must come to an end. We belong to different parties, not different countries," McCain told several hundred in the capital city of Ohio, a general election battleground. "There is a time to campaign, and a time to govern. If I'm elected president, the era of the permanent campaign will end; the era of problem-solving will begin."
Maverick McCain
To the disdain of some fellow Republicans, the likely GOP nominee has worked with Democrats on legislation aimed at overhauling campaign finance regulations, redrafting immigration rules and regulations and implementing government spending controls.
While that has cultivated a maverick image for McCain, the Arizona senator has also been accused of exhibiting a nasty temper ? swearing even at fellow lawmakers from his own party ? and unabashed partisanship.
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McCain is a lunatic. At a time when 70% of all Ameicans want us out of the wars, McCain is saying four more years and we win.
Thats the same shit Bush has been saying for 8 years. Bloody bastids.
Holy Turkey Day !
GOP presidential candidate spells out his vision for White House
McCain: I'd bring troops home by 2013
May 15: In a speech in Columbus, Ohio, John McCain outlines what he hopes his presidency would look like by the end of his first term if he were to be elected.
updated 12:12 p.m. ET, Thurs., May. 15, 2008
COLUMBUS, Ohio - John McCain , looking through a crystal ball to 2013 and the end of a prospective first term, sees "spasmodic" but reduced violence in Iraq and Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden dead or captured and government spending curbed by his ready veto pen.
The Republican presidential contender also envisions April's annual angst replaced with the option of a simpler flat tax, illegal immigrants living humanely under a temporary worker program, and political partisanship driven by weekly news conferences and British-style question periods with joint meetings of Congress.
In a speech Thursday, McCain conceded he cannot make the changes alone, but he wanted to outline a specific governing style to show the accomplishments it can achieve. He backed up his remarks with a Web ad featuring similar content.
"I'm not interested in partisanship that serves no other purpose than to gain a temporary advantage over our opponents. This mindless, paralyzing rancor must come to an end. We belong to different parties, not different countries," McCain told several hundred in the capital city of Ohio, a general election battleground. "There is a time to campaign, and a time to govern. If I'm elected president, the era of the permanent campaign will end; the era of problem-solving will begin."
Maverick McCain
To the disdain of some fellow Republicans, the likely GOP nominee has worked with Democrats on legislation aimed at overhauling campaign finance regulations, redrafting immigration rules and regulations and implementing government spending controls.
While that has cultivated a maverick image for McCain, the Arizona senator has also been accused of exhibiting a nasty temper ? swearing even at fellow lawmakers from his own party ? and unabashed partisanship.
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McCain is a lunatic. At a time when 70% of all Ameicans want us out of the wars, McCain is saying four more years and we win.
Thats the same shit Bush has been saying for 8 years. Bloody bastids.
Holy Turkey Day !
You have area with 90% blacks--committing 90% of crime-and its racial profiling because they get stopped 90% of time--somehow I see it as a statistical probabilty--but thats just me
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I see you can't seem to find the stats on O since he got caught with liberals in CA dissing working class whites and his mentor/uncle/pastor was exposed.
I'll help you out- he has ave just tick over 1/3 of white vote in states since then 34.25%.
I'll help you out- he has ave just tick over 1/3 of white vote in states since then 34.25%.
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Explaination is easy B --for those that see through your con job--and don't omit important facts--being able to know diff from caucus and populous vote.
You have 16 states on your list--there were 13 states where candidate was chosen by caucus vs popular vote,11 of your states listed were caucus states.
What is a caucus??
The Caucus
Caucuses are simply meetings, open to all registered voters of the party, at which delegates to the party's national convention are selected. When the caucus begins, the voters in attendance divide themselves into groups according to the candidate they support. The undecided voters congregate into their own group and prepare to be "courted" by supporters of other candidates.
Voters in each group are then invited to give speeches supporting their candidate and trying to persuade others to join their group. At the end of the caucus, party organizers count the voters in each candidate's group and calculate how many delegates to the county convention each candidate has won.
As in the primaries, the caucus process can produce both pledged and unpledged convention delegates, depending on the party rules of the various states.
Explaination is easy B --for those that see through your con job--and don't omit important facts--being able to know diff from caucus and populous vote.
You have 16 states on your list--there were 13 states where candidate was chosen by caucus vs popular vote,11 of your states listed were caucus states.
What is a caucus??
The Caucus
Caucuses are simply meetings, open to all registered voters of the party, at which delegates to the party's national convention are selected. When the caucus begins, the voters in attendance divide themselves into groups according to the candidate they support. The undecided voters congregate into their own group and prepare to be "courted" by supporters of other candidates.
Voters in each group are then invited to give speeches supporting their candidate and trying to persuade others to join their group. At the end of the caucus, party organizers count the voters in each candidate's group and calculate how many delegates to the county convention each candidate has won.
As in the primaries, the caucus process can produce both pledged and unpledged convention delegates, depending on the party rules of the various states.
I wasn't trying to con anyone. Those are the states he won without the Black vote.
I really didn't think you were--but figured you weren't aware of it as most--Not a media talking point when they are trying to hype Mr O.
Unless he is smart enough to get richardson--he has no easy road ahead.
He made error today on rant on speaking with terrorist orgs--would be best- the less he brings up
foreign policy issues the better--
they only have to bring up Iran and Carters 444 day carrot-vs anticpation of stick and sending them home before gop was sworn in.
or bill's 8 year carrot with lybia and just seeing the stick elsewhere and they throw in the towel.
You can't negotiate with terrorist countries--as Iran and Carter they love the daily news exposure showing the world they can make U.S. grovel at their beckoning.
I'll admit i'm not sure what to do with this. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense or maybe i'm just missing the point, such that it is.
Are you saying that 'educators' are responsible for him dominating Hillary when it comes to higher educated and higher income whites?
This, you can't negotiate with terrorist stuff is a smoke screen... We must have some dialog with our enemies if we hope to contain them. There is no winning a war on terror. If you don't understand what I have typed to this point, you don't understand terrorism. We pick and chose what terrorist groups we negotiate with. Saudi Arabia is a terrorist group; why do we negotiate with them ? Some in the world believe that America is a terrorist state, Israel is a terrorist state, one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter. We negotiate with China, they are a terrorist state. The Bush administration has allowed them and everyone in the world to terrorize The American People with food, drugs, toys, you name it. Tough talk about not talking is cheap and useless. America has been in bed with terrorist in my life time going back to the Shah of Iran and bin Laden Him self ! Save that bull shit, we don't negotiate with terrorist for the next loyalist convention. Do you want to turn this thread into an endless list of the terrorist we not only negotiated with but lined their pockest with tax payer money. What terrorist have we not negotiated with would be the short list. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/feb/08/britainand911.usa
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I voted for Reagan. How do you think He secured the release of Our Hostages ? The Iran Contra Affair was brilliant negotiations with terrorist. His Administrations freindship with bin Laden was equally genius in the defeat of the Russians in Afghanistan. Guys like you wave the American Flag, wear your pins on your lapels, paste your stickers on your imports but you haven't a clue of what it takes to keep that flag in the air. This is not your Country pal, We The People are going to take Our Country back from the Bush Monarchy/McCains/Clintons of the World.
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here here.
If we don't we are doomed.
McCain will be easy to defeat , he has such engrained ideas that go back to the dark ages.
Remember the good old days when We could negotiate with terrorist when the Dollar spoke louder than words ? A weak Dollar means an America with out Her voice. Where does the buck stop on this issue ? Where is our ledership ?
Our leadership is in Egypt trying to get Egypt to give more rights to woman.
Where was Bush 8 years ago when this might have helped.
Too busy plotting wars and such.
And Egypt who we give more aid to than anyone but Isreal , still puts woman rights on the backburner.
These people are not going to change. They want to fight each other. Its their way of life.
Where was Bush 8 years ago when this might have helped.
Too busy plotting wars and such.
And Egypt who we give more aid to than anyone but Isreal , still puts woman rights on the backburner.
These people are not going to change. They want to fight each other. Its their way of life.
