Democrats Plan Series of Votes on Ethics Reforms

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It's stories like this that make me proud to be a Democrat...funny, didn't see anything like this over the past 6 years...

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Democrats Plan Series of Votes on Ethics Reforms

By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 21, 2006; A04

Despite divisions among Democrats over how far to go in revising ethics rules, House leaders plan a major rollout of an ethics reform bill early next year to demonstrate concern about an issue that helped defeat the Republicans in the midterm elections.

But they will do it with a twist: Instead of forwarding one big bill, Democrats will put together an ethics package on the House floor piece by piece, allowing incoming freshmen to take charge of high-profile issues and lengthening the time spent on the debate. The approach will ensure that each proposal -- including banning gifts, meals and travel from lobbyists as well as imposing new controls on the budget deficit -- is debated on its own and receives its own vote. That should garner far more media attention for the bill's components before a final vote on the entire package.

"This will be the most significant ethics and lobbying reform that Congress has ever voted on," promised Rep. Martin T. Meehan (D-Mass.), one of the point men on the effort.

The approach may be the first indication of how the Democrats plan to use their ability to control the House agenda as the majority power, setting the terms of debate while lifting the strict rules that Republicans used to curtail dissent.

And Democrats hope to show that they are attentive to issues of corruption that, according to exit polling, proved to be of major concern to voters on Nov. 7. House and Senate GOP leaders pledged early this year to pass major lobbying reforms in the aftermath of the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal but never delivered on their promise.

Democratic leaders are still putting the finishing touches on the floor schedule and some of the components of the ethics package, said Jennifer Crider, spokeswoman for incoming House speaker Nancy Pelosi (Calif.). But other Democratic leadership aides said the proposal to break up the package and reassemble it is virtually a done deal.

Under that plan, freshmen would offer, over as many as five days in January, separate amendments to ban gifts, meals and travel financed by lobbyists, said Rep. Rahm Emanuel (Ill.), incoming chairman of the House Democratic Caucus. New rules mandating the disclosure of all contacts with lobbyists would be another vote, as would a rule requiring that the sponsors of funding for home-state pet projects be identified. The House would also vote on whether to reinstate budget rules, known as pay-as-you-go, or "paygo," requiring that any new spending or tax cuts be offset by equal spending cuts or tax increases.

While there is broad support for reform, Democrats face divisions on how far to go on some issues, such as whether to establish an independent board to enforce ethics rules. But leaders are eager to show that they are serious about tackling the corrosive influence of lobbyists and money, so much so that they are willing to spend days working on the issue. They may even let the divisions play out in public, with amendments allowed that may or may not pass, on issues from campaign finance to independent oversight.

"We heard continually out here that people were tired of the way business is conducted in Washington," said Rep.-elect Harry Mitchell (D-Ariz.). "They didn't like the way lobbyists had so much influence. They didn't like the way rules were not enforced. They just didn't think things were being done right."

The idea is to give each provision what Emanuel called its "Warhol time" -- 15 minutes of fame -- while forcing Republicans to take a stand on the components before a final vote on the ethics package. Because House rules changes are, by tradition, party-line votes, breaking the package into its components would also allow Republicans to support individual amendments, even though they probably would vote against the package in the end.

The unorthodox approach, more reminiscent of the drawn-out legislating done in the Senate than the slam-dunks of the House, would also give Democratic leaders a chance to show that they plan to change the way the House does business, Democrats said.

"Why have the gift ban, if that's one of [the components], be buried inside when it can stand on its own and the public wants it and gets it?" Emanuel asked. "Why have paygo have to share space with the meal ban or gift ban?"

The procedure would be as much about solidifying Democratic power as it would be about changing the rules of the House. Freshmen Democrats, many of them representing Republican-leaning districts, would take ownership of components that would resonate most with their voters, Democratic leaders said. For example, a conservative "Blue Dog" would get to present the budget-balancing rule.

Amendments aimed at reducing the influence of lobbyists would go to swing-district Democrats who campaigned on ethics themes. One is Mitchell, who unseated Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-Ariz.) in large part by stressing Hayworth's links to Abramoff, the disgraced lobbyist. The others are Zack Space (Ohio), who took the Republican-leaning district of convicted former representative Robert W. Ney, and Michael A. Arcuri (N.Y.), who ran on corruption themes to take the district vacated by retiring Rep. Sherwood L. Boehlert (R).

Such a freewheeling approach could expose disagreements within the Democratic Caucus. For example, some members think that an independent board should be created to conduct ethics investigations and mete out punishment to members who violate House rules. Others say the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct, informally known as the ethics committee, can handle the assignment as long as leaders allow it to do its job.

Democratic leadership aides say Pelosi is weighing a middle ground -- the establishment of an independent body similar to a grand jury that would weigh the validity of ethics complaints, then pass meritorious allegations to the ethics committee.

The rules change on earmarks, or lawmakers' pet projects, is expected to differ from the proposal Democrats outlined earlier this year, the aides said. That rule would mandate that home-district projects be identified by the names of their congressional sponsors. Pelosi wants to make sure that change applies to projects in spending bills as well as in policy bills, such as the broad highway and transit law that passed in 2005. Tax breaks known as rifle shots, narrowly targeted to benefit only a few companies or individuals, are also expected to face more scrutiny.
 

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Wilson-

Is that all you can come up? Get Real.. How about a President lying to the whole country about a war that will cost twice as many American lives as 9/11 in the end. Before you reply let me pick one for you.
1. WMD- no wait a minute-lie
2. 9/11 direct involvement- no another lie.
3. oil- a lie at first that they said had nothing to do with it and then finally the GOP is at least admitting to.

Or is it that maybe half the Republican party is up on charges??? I think some in that party might want to bypass a perjury bill...

jc
 

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Good start. I hope they focus on progressive items like this. GOP had 6 unobstructed years in congress and did nothing positive. Lots of new blood and new motivation right now.
 

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It's time to real in the Gov. Been out of control a little two long. Latest news those evil guys in Iran and Syria. Sounds like Bush and the gang may do a little Iran Contra to help get us out of Iraq.
 

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"Good start. I hope they focus on progressive items like this. GOP had 6 unobstructed years in congress and did nothing positive."
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Did nothing?? depends which side of fence your on Smurph

If your and investor you got all times highs snatched out of jaws of recession-911 hit and natural disasters-

You had very lowest inflation in decades as with taxes--and no better chance in history to purchase home or start business with record low interest rates.

Granted these are easily overlooked from the your side as most pay no taxes--invest in anything "legal"--are looking to purchase home or start business--and not many entitlement programs started but they did benefit from interest rates by being able to reduce debt.

You might note that most of their hoopla in their message is aimed at their troops--higher minimum wage--more burden to tax payor--as they refuse to define middle class.

However what you won't see in next 2 years is them trying to work in any area that has obvious but tough decisions that will piss off their troops--ie immigration--fixing ssn ect--while they harped endlessly on GOP ideas they have no solutions or should I say none that won't cost them votes with their troops.
 

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Did you even read the article DTB? Where the hell does it mention anything about the minimum wage? Interest rates were lowered by Alan Greenspan to get us out of a recession...this has what to do with the republican congress? The stock market highs have been largely fueled by non-sustainable deficit spending. I will give you guys credit for that one. Imigration reform? Remind me what you guys accomplished on that front? Aside from the Bush amnesty plan. The tax breaks? Yeah, right. I am glad that you are making more than $250,000 in income and have a fat portfolio of dividend yielding stocks so you got a windfall. I happen to be in the camp that makes just under $100,000 and can't live off the dividends of my stocks, so I didn't see much of a break. I will gladly give back the $300 to reduce the debt that you guys doubled.

But back on point, our system is in dire need of massive ethical reform and I think that this is a great start. A prime example of the corruption that has taken hold of the congress is the Dennis Hastert land deals. The guy shows up in congress with a net worth of $300,000. He engages in some shady land deals, pushes through some "earmark" legislation that just happens to greatly benefit his "investment" and boom...his net worth in now $6mil. Perfect poster boy for the Bushcons.
 
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I also see that your beloved republicans are cutting and running when it comes to taking care of the business they were put in office to do, pushing the big spending bills they authored onto the next legislatures agenda and knocking off work about 8 days early. Nothing like not taking the blame for your handiwork and spending tax dollars, and leaving before your work is done.

I'm sure Freeze is thrilled with his conservatives that are evidently not going to make sure that Medicare payments to doctors is funded, leaving them holding the bill.

Lets remember all of this come next election cycle. Republicans cutting and running, pushing spending bills on next legislature. Democrats working hard on ethics reform and a real plan for Iraq.

I know what side I'm proud to support.
 

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dogs, record low interest rates, that's hysterical Bush and the Republican Congress was responsible for that? HOW SO? for the first time in recent history Republicans had the presidency, house, Senate, and Court, and got absolutely nothing substantial accomplished, absolutely nothing.
 

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Pelosi's Next Big Call
The incoming House Speaker already made a questionable move backing the losing candidate in the race for Majority Leader. Will she stumble again by choosing a member with a checkered past to lead the House Intelligence Committee?


Posted Tuesday, Nov. 21, 2006
Speaker-to-be Nancy Pelosi, who stumbled badly last week when she publicly backed the failed candidacy of Rep. John Murtha for majority leader, could be headed for another political tumble if she presses ahead with long-standing plans to elevate Rep. Alcee Hastings, a senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, to the panel's chairmanship.

A Democratic aide says Pelosi has not decided whom she will name as chairman of the intelligence panel, but that she was leaning against the current top Democrat, Rep. Jane Harman. Her preferred nominee has long been Hastings, but like Murtha he has his own ethically challenged history. And while the broad outlines of that past are well known, the grimy specifics are only now emerging.

Hastings was elected to Congress in 1992, but his first big moment on Capitol Hill came three years before that. Appointed as a federal judge in Florida in 1979, Hastings had been acquitted in a 1983 criminal trial on charges of soliciting a $150,000 bribe two years earlier in a deal to provide favorable treatment for defendants in a racketeering case before him. Despite his being legally cleared, Congress determined that the evidence against Hastings was still powerful enough to remove him from the bench, which the Senate voted to do in 1989 ? even though Senators Arlen Specter and Jeff Bingaman, the top Republican and Democrat who supervised the proceedings, voted against expelling Hastings from office. The impeachment proceedings were later invalidated by an appeals court judge in 1993, although that ruling was itself later vitiated by the Supreme Court. Reports on those impeachment proceedings were posted Monday evening on the blog of the left-of-center ethics watchdog, Committee for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, fleshing out the details of an episode that Hastings, and surely Pelosi, would much rather forget.

How important is a case dating back to the 1980s and Hastings' prior, ill-fated career as a judge? Well, at least Hastings seems to realize that it won't be so easily dismissed as ancient history. He recently sent Pelosi a five-page open letter explaining his side of the story ? and appended the statements of Senators Specter and Bingaman.

At the time of the impeachment proceedings, Rep. John Conyers, on track to become the House Judiciary Committee chairman, said that he didn't like what that panel's investigation showed about Hastings. "In my mind, the facts that we have educed,(sic) the witnesses that we have heard, the voluminous records that we have read and re-examined, convince me that Judge Hastings has regrettably engaged in conduct constituting high crimes and misdemeanors and that therefore we should vote this resolution of impeachment," Conyers said in the proceeding almost 20 years ago. Befitting the political and legal complexities of the case, Conyers has since tempered his remarks, thanks in part to a subsequent scandal involving the FBI lab which handled some of the Hastings evidence. Still, an aide declined to explain to TIME Conyers' current position.
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hmm wonder which committes she has in store for Kennedy-Franks-frozen assetts Jefferson--ect. :)
 

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Dogs, you like to point out how the Republican Congress saved us from the recession started under Clinton. Although, I think every thinking person in America knows that Greenspan caused it, but what I am interested in is why you give the Republican Congress, that Clinton had to deal with in his final years, a free ride?:shrug:
 

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with pelosi "cleaning out the swamp", by backing mothra and alcee hastings as heads of important committees,it wouldn`t surprise me a bit to see the dems hold the dnc at gitmo next time around...:SIB
 

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Why would the dems hold the DNC meeting at Gitmo? Why would they want to have the crap kicked out of them and no legal recourse while they were nominating a woman and a black dude to their ticket?!?

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All the republican sean hannity's of the world can't get Bubba's sexual prowess out of their heads.

The real question about that nite is what about that Cigar? :scared

And don't tell me that you think for one minute that GW wouldn't take a blow job after doing all those lines of coke.
GW is from TEXAS, they'll pork anything that squeals like Monica :142smilie

Tell the truth all you phony Hannity Repubs... you wouldn't pull down those panties on Monica if you had the chance after a few rock glasses of Jack Daniels?...:mj07:
 

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With Ted Kennedy, John Murtha, and Harry Reid (AKA land deal and Abramhoff chronie) leading the democrats how can anyone take anything on ethics they put out seriously:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

Why don't we just put Al Capone in charge of the National Treasury???:mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

Dingy Harry and ethics??:scared :scared :scared
 

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With Ted Kennedy, John Murtha, and Harry Reid (AKA land deal and Abramhoff chronie) leading the democrats how can anyone take anything on ethics they put out seriously:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

Why don't we just put Al Capone in charge of the National Treasury???:mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

Dingy Harry and ethics??:scared :scared :scared

You can joke about this all you want, but it has to hurt you that the democrats have put this forth as one of their first focuses after getting some control over the legislative process. It takes some real guts to address these issues individually as they have done. If these people were so concerned about protecting whatever it is you are alluding to, then why would this be their initial foray into legislation that matters?

It should be NO SURPRISE that the republicans didn't have the guts to do it, we've seen what they have done with their power. You ridicule and laugh, I commend them for breaking the mold and doing what the voters wanted done. Typical crap from you, Freeze. Hit and run ridicule, that has no basis in common sense.
 
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