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Dhimmi Carter "is open to a meeting if the former president of Iran would like to have one"
The article calls it "an event that would turn a page in American history," but it's really just proof once again that former President Dhimmi Carter learned nothing from the crisis with Iran that occurred during his administration. The Carter Center in Atlanta is making preparations for the possible visit by Khatami, doubtlessly considered another "fellow man of faith," as Carter once referred to Ayatollah Khomeini.

From the Washington Post: "Carter Agrees to Hold Talks With Khatami"

For an event that would turn a page in American history, former president Jimmy Carter has agreed in principle to host former Iranian president Mohammad Khatami for talks during his visit to the United States starting this week.
Carter's term as president was dominated by the rupture in relations after the 1979 Iranian revolution and the takeover of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, where 52 Americans were held for 444 days until the day he left office.
Iranians made the overture for the meeting, and the Carter Center in Atlanta is working on the possible timing, said Phil Wise, the former president's aide.
"President Carter, in his role since leaving the White House, has made his office and services and center available to basically anybody who wants to talk. He believes that it is much better to be talking to people who you have problems with than not to, and that's the approach he takes now," Wise said. "I can confirm that President Carter is open to a meeting if the former president of Iran would like to have one."
Despite mounting tensions between Washington and Tehran over the latter's nuclear program, the Bush administration issued a visa for Khatami yesterday, as well as for about a dozen family and staff members, for a visit lasting about two weeks, the State Department confirmed. Khatami is expected to arrive in the United States tomorrow.
Khatami, a reformer who served as president from 1997 to 2005, is scheduled to speak at the Washington National Cathedral on Sept. 7. His schedule may include speeches at the University of Virginia and to an Islamic group in Chicago. He may also pay a private visit to Thomas Jefferson's home at Monticello, according to sources familiar with his trip. He will begin his visit in New York at a U.N. conference on the dialogue of civilizations.
The White House said yesterday that Khatami had been invited by private organizations and is not part of the current Iranian government.
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"Carter, who has every reason to be angry about the way in which the Iranian revolution undid his presidency over the hostage affair, is willing to meet, with no hesitation, a person who was president of the Islamic republic and who has never disavowed Ayatollah Khomeini's actions when he was supreme leader," said William Quandt, a national security staffer in charge of the Middle East during the Carter administration.
 

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COME ON WE ARE GOD PEOPLE WE FEED THE WORLD SENT MONEY AROUND THE WORLD
AND THE USA ARE THE JERKOFF!

COME ON:shrug:

unfortunately Raymond our people are good but the politicians are the assholes. Maybe you have to dig a little deeper to see why we have all these problems? Not sure if you know this but we are not the only ones to have this super bomb that you want unleash so quickly. Plus it might contaminate all that oil.:nono:
 

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I DO AGREE GOVERMENT AS A WHOLE IS GOING BACKWARD, IT NOT THE SAME AMERICAN THAT I GROW UP WITH, WILL SAVE THAT FOR SOME ANOTHER TIME, BOYS THIS COUNTRY IS GOING BACKWARD AGREE 100%
 

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DON'T GET ME WRONG I SAID IT HERE BEFORE WE SHOULD HAVE LEFT SADDAM IN POWER HE KEEP IRAN IN CHECK, AND WE SHOULD HAVE WENT THERE FIRST! 911 CHANGE MY THINKING


THE MUSLIN WANT TO TAKE OVER!
 

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GREED FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD

GREED FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD

IRAQ will be a dead issue soon. Bush will stop harping on this point because there is no more money in it for him......Bush will cut and run from IRAQ..watch and see....

His shell game will be shifted to Afghanistan. That will be his new Medicine Show.

He will tell you that IRAQ is under control and we need to now concentrate/focus our effots to Afghanistan, because this is ( flavor of the week ) where the real imminent dager is !

His next lines wil be , i will be asking for $ 500 BILLION---but don't laff he will ask for maybe double that.

Time is running out on him and cheney. A new scam is in order,

MONEY DOESN'T SLEEP PAL

GREED IS GOOD...:142smilie
 
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BUSH WILL BE THE ONE TO CUT AND RUN

He is sending messages ever so softly.Pay attention to him.

First it will start with that IRAQ is under control ( NOT ).

BUSH WILL CUT AND RUN from IRAQ.
 

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BUSH WILL BE THE ONE TO CUT AND RUN

He is sending messages ever so softly.Pay attention to him.

First it will start with that IRAQ is under control ( NOT ).

BUSH WILL CUT AND RUN from IRAQ.

far from cut and run!

bush is only american president who standing up to these muslin terriosts. if we go back in history
1979 iran take our people , hostage

we has peace keeper and 241 of our boys die from a truck bomb

there been american taking hostage in 1980's and 1990 and kill

set off bombs in africa they kill american people

uss cole was bomb american were kill

peace keeper in african were kill , we has our boys there so the people could eat!

world trade center was bomb by a truck bomb

and 911 usa was attack again

that is only to name a few attack


so we stand up for ourself and the united states
is once again the bad guys :shrug:

what a joke , all this country has done for man kind

the rest of world can go fvck them self

i tired of my tax money going to help onther people and we are the bad guys , i work too hard for my money , every american works for about 3 month
for free each year to pay there share of taxes,

how many other country country sent food and money around the world to help poor country not many

america is the best country in the free world
and i am a proud american , i try lead my life by a good example! very tired of my country being the bad guys its bullshit and i will voice my opinion:SIB
 
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the truth and the fact of the matter, is we should cut and run , the united states been built up that country, new school and new this and new that
and those ass hole kept blow up there own country , fuvk them too , i call them animal of the world , and there religon is great , cut me a break:mj07:
 

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people don't realize . the usa hold back big time in war , the united states can win any war , yes we our the most powerful country in the world
the fact are facts , we have enough nukes , destroy the earth 20 time over and the means to deliver them. no we hold back in war , and boys are alway handcupp , thank GOD IRAN NOT THE SUPER POWER OF THE WORLD. YOU WOULD BEING WEARING A RUG ON YOUR HEAD:mj07:
 

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WHAT WOULD SMURPHY LOOK LIKE WITH A RUG ON HIS HEAD:142smilie OR KOSAR:mj07:
 

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THERE NO FREE RIDE IN THIS WORLD, YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND EARN IT, IF YOU WANT NICE THINGS , YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND WORK HARD FOR IT! SAME FOR ANOTHER COUNTRY, THEY NEED TO HAVE GOOD LEADERS
WHO LEADERS BY GOOD EXAMPLE! LEADERS WHO WORK FOR THE PEOLPLE AND THEIR COUNTRY

ITS ABOUT LIVING A GOOD AND PEACEFUL LIFE:mj06:


THE REST IS BULLSHIT:nono:
 

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ONE ANOTHER THING NO ONE GAVE THE UNITED
STATES THE UNITED STATES, THE PEOPLE WORK HARD FOR WANT FOR GOT, AND WE EARN IT , NOW WE NEED TO HOLD ON TO IT:mj06:

HARD WORK PAYS OFF, ONE DAY AT A DAY
IN GOD WE TRUST:142hail:
 

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--I see Stevie uses the Bush lied blog catch all
how do you get it through to liberals a lie is not when you make same conclusion everyone else did on information--

lie (SPEAK FALSELY) Show phonetics
verb lying, lied, lied
to say or write something which is not true in order to deceive someone:

Now anyone besides a liberal know a lie is something someone says that the know to be untrue--classic example is the ole :nono:

Now to give you an idea of how organized liberals are on getting out their definition of lie you will find something quite remarkable--do google search for "lie define" and guess what pulls up as #3 entry--

Bush Lies...Sometimes the assertion is an outright lie; sometimes it's on the edge. But in either case the intent is to deceive--to define a legitimate question as ...
www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm - 74k


Busy little bunch at getting out their coolaide to their lemmings --aren't they :)

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DJV Don't know which poll your getting your 61 % from--but I might remind you there was only one official poll on Nov 2004 after war had been in progress that really is accurate ;)
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--and back to initial thread topic--We don't know who will be Dem Pres and VP candidate yet but we do know who will be 3rd in command which ever side wins--Pelosi

So we have person from district that has most aggressive stance against military in the U.S. Trying to ban miltary recuiters--ending ROTC programs--letting kids out of class to protest miltary and war ect ect --now do a google search on tough on terror--and again see what the liberals have for you--:142smilie

while on the topic--does anyone know of search engines that bypass all these blogs--where you can get right to relevent factual data bases--and get around these idiots bombarding net with propaganda--I've already deleted yahoo--hate to delete google.
 
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--I see Stevie uses the Bush lied blog catch all
how do you get it through to liberals a lie is not when you make same conclusion everyone else did on information--

lie (SPEAK FALSELY) Show phonetics
verb lying, lied, lied
to say or write something which is not true in order to deceive someone:

Now anyone besides a liberal know a lie is something someone says that the know to be untrue--classic example is the ole :nono:

Now to give you an idea of how organized liberals are on getting out their definition of lie you will find something quite remarkable--do google search for "lie define" and guess what pulls up as #3 entry--

Bush Lies...Sometimes the assertion is an outright lie; sometimes it's on the edge. But in either case the intent is to deceive--to define a legitimate question as ...
www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm - 74k


Busy little bunch at getting out their coolaide to their lemmings --aren't they :)

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Ahh no, not everyone thought he had WMD. Of course he had to talk it up like he did in order to keep order. But enough of Sadam. Can you or any other Neocon argue the fact that Bush was the only one dumb enough, or crooked enough, take your pick, to invade Iraq and get us tied up in the quagmire? A quagmire that he was warned about before he attacked? Of course it worked out well for Halliburten and the Carlye Group.
And isn't it wonderful that those Neocon Lovers that have been wrong about every aspect of this invasion still feel compelled to lecture those of us who have been proven right over and over again.:shrug:
 
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WARSHIPS HEADING THAT WAY ?

WARSHIPS HEADING THAT WAY ?

I will agree with RAY on this..........Bush does stand up to the ali baba's.

I hope he bombs IRAN into the camel age.

IRAN, has been bloody well asking for it , they need to be made a dresden.

My beef with Mr. Bush is he get's into his charlatan con artist act trying to scam us with his Social Security Scams...His Dubai Ports Scam..His Arab Student Toleration.

I mean what the phuck gives with him..sucking up to these Saudi Scumbags...and saying they are our allies.....

He makes people lose respect for him when he sides with The Saudis and tries to hurt Hard Working elderly Americans.......
And then he does all these about faces and has all this money for foreign scumbags.
 
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