Derby and CD undercard

Valuist

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No time for undercard analysis. Heading out to the track soon. He are some gimmicks I'll probably be playing

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RACE 1 Pick 3 part wheel (1,6,9) with (3,4,5) with (2,5)
RACE 5 Tri part wheel (2,6) with (2,6) with (1,5,10,11,12) and (2,6) with (1,5,10,11,12) with (2,6)
RACE 7 Pic 3 part wheel (4,5,11) with (1,2,4,7) with (3,8)

RACE 10 DERBY
Exacta part wheel (9,12,16) with (2,15)
Tri part wheel (9,12) with (9,12) with (4,6,8,15,16) and (9,12) with (4,6,8,15,16) with (9,12)

I thought the bombs that most likely to hit the board are Brancusi and Outta Here. Brancusi I've liked all along but the more I look at Outta Here, I can see where he could hit the board. Look at his last 3 races: On Nov.30 he's entered on the turf, which he isn't bred for, and he runs a great race, closing strongly to be beaten less than 2 by Peace Rules. Then he ships to Delta for a $500 K race, which he wins with a 98 Beyer, a very strong 2 YO route number. He only has run once this year, a 4th in the Dubai Derby. But a closer look shows a very solid Timeform rating (107), which is the equivalent of a 98-99 Beyer. Not good enough to win the Ky Derby, but could klunk up for 3rd. He also did finish in front of 10 horses in that race. But I think only 3 horses (Empire Maker, TMW, and Indian Express) have real strong chances of winning. You could make some case for Buddy Gil and Atswhatimtalkinabout but you can't pick everyone.
 

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thanks for the input V. always appreciated. are you staying up north today? i'll be in oak brook.

i got that brancusi vibe too. unfortunately, feeling the same for offlee wild.
 

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Sounds like good reasoning Valuist. One thing that bugs me tho is the record of horses in their first race back from the Dubai trip. It is just horrible, even horses that have been back for a while and had several workouts have not done too well. Just another thing to ponder. Just heading out for the early races. Good luck on your wagers.:) :) :)
 

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I went to Maywood. Really wasn't that crowded; unlike Arlington which is a zoo on Derby Day.

The posted early Pic 3 at CD did come in; not gigantic but I'm not throwing it back. The tris on race 5 were all cancelled when the 2 (Wiseman's Ferry) scratched.

Skanoochies--

Yeah, it might be a stretch and if he was 10-1 or so I'd dismiss him. But at 40-1 or so, he's worth a shot to hit the board.
 
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