Detroit not favored to high...

[socrstud]

I don't know why Detroit isn't a bigger favorite here. I'm thinking of pounding Detroit after a loss here 1000 strong on Kenny Rogers.....

Before I make my bet I wanna be sure though...Is there something I'm missing about Minnesota or Detroit??

If anyone has any input either way it would be appreciated...

I feel like Detroit is good for at least 4 runs....And usually that is enough for any team against the Twins....

 

[socrstud]

I'll do some research and get back....

 

[TJBELL]

If the Minnesota Twins forgot the embarrassment they suffered recently after one of their worst series in recent memory, the Detroit Tigers will be happy to remind them.In a rematch of a pitching matchup from last Sunday, Kenny Rogers leads the Tigers (19-10) into the Metrodome to face Kyle Lohse and the Twins (11-17) on Friday in the start of a three-game series.Detroit swept a three-game set from Minnesota last weekend at Comerica Park by a combined score of 33-1. The Tigers also outhit the Twins 47-15 in those contests.It marked the first time in nearly 25 years that Minnesota was held to one run in a three-game series."My whole career I've never been whooped like this before," Twins center fielder Torii Hunter said. "In eight years in the big leagues, I've never been defeated like this - even in the minor leagues - I don't think."Twins left fielder Shannon Stewart said memories of those losses will be hard to let go."You are never going to forget that beating because the reality is, they beat us pretty bad in Detroit," he said. "I would like to have played the team better than what we did. We could do a lot better than that. I don't think that was the true Minnesota Twins out there."Rogers (4-2, 2.59 ERA) allowed two hits and a walk in eight innings in a 6-0 victory last Sunday. The left-hander, who won 13 games for Minnesota in 2003, is 13-9 with a 2.87 ERA and three saves in 47 appearances against the Twins.Lohse (1-2, 8.77) lasted 5 2-3 innings, giving up six runs and eight hits. He is 1-3 with a 4.86 ERA in his last four starts against the Tigers."I threw like I needed to throw. I didn't think I made any bad pitches," Lohse said.Minnesota fell to 3-11 against AL Central opponents with another embarrassing loss, 1-0 to lowly Kansas City on Thursday. It was the Royals' first road win in 13 tries this season.The Twins managed five hits, received six walks and stranded 13 runners in falling to 0-6 when being held to five hits or less.Detroit was looking to close out its seven-game homestand with a perfect record, but fell 7-2 to the Los Angeles Angels on Thursday.Magglio Ordonez and Curtis Granderson drove in runs with sacrifice flies and rookie pitcher Justin Verlander allowed four runs and nine hits over six innings for the Tigers."Justin didn't have his good stuff," Detroit manager Jim Leyland said. "And we didn't do anything offensively."The Tigers are 11-1 when scoring five or more runs, but 8-9 when plating four or less.Minnesota has won four straight at home over Detroit.

 

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W/L TrendsDetroit
Tigers are 3-0 in their last 3 road games vs. a team with a losing record.
Tigers are 5-0 in their last 5 vs. American League Central.
Tigers are 4-0 in their last 4 Friday games.
Tigers are 4-0 in their last 4 games with the total set at 9.0-10.5.
Tigers are 3-0 in their last 3 games as a road favorite of -110 to -150.
Tigers are 5-0 in their last 5 vs. a team with a losing record.
Tigers are 3-0 in their last 3 during game 1 of a series.
Tigers are 5-0 in their last 5 games as a road favorite.
Tigers are 7-1 in their last 8 games as a favorite.
Tigers are 12-2 in their last 14 night games.
Tigers are 6-1 in their last 7 overall.
Tigers are 5-1 in their last 6 games vs. a right-handed starter.
Tigers are 6-2 in their last 8 road games.
Tigers are 5-2 in their last 7 when their opponent scores 2 runs or less in their previous game.
Tigers are 57-119 in their last 176 after scoring 2 runs or less in their previous game.
Tigers are 87-186 in their last 273 road games with the total set at 9.0-10.5.
Tigers are 3-10 in their last 13 after allowing 5 runs or more in their previous game.
Tigers are 0-6 in their last 6 games on Field Turf.
Tigers are 3-0 in Rogers' last 3 starts vs. American League Central.


Minnesota
Twins are 5-1 in their last 6 games as a home underdog.
Twins are 11-5 in their last 16 home games.
Twins are 2-5 in their last 7 games vs. a left-handed starter.
Twins are 2-5 in their last 7 home games with the total set at 9.0-10.5.
Twins are 4-10 in their last 14 overall.
Twins are 8-21 in their last 29 games as an underdog of +110 to +150.
Twins are 14-41 in their last 55 games as an underdog.
Twins are 2-6 in their last 8 after scoring 2 runs or less in their previous game.
Twins are 1-4 in their last 5 when their opponent scores 2 runs or less in their previous game.
Twins are 1-4 in their last 5 vs. American League Central.
Twins are 2-8 in their last 10 Friday games.
Twins are 1-6 in their last 7 games with the total set at 9.0-10.5.
Twins are 0-3 in their last 3 vs. a team with a winning record.
Twins are 0-3 in their last 3 when their opponent allows 5 runs or more in their previous game.
Twins are 3-0 in Lohse's last 3 starts on Field Turf.
Twins are 3-0 in Lohse's last 3 home starts.
Twins are 3-0 in Lohse's last 3 night starts.
Twins are 5-2 in Lohse's last 7 starts as a home underdog of +110 to +150.
Twins are 4-9 in Lohse's last 13 starts vs. American League Central.
Twins are 2-5 in Lohse's last 7 starts as a home underdog.
Twins are 3-9 in Lohse's last 12 starts as an underdog of +110 to +150.
Twins are 2-6 in Lohse's last 8 starts after allowing 2 runs or less in their previous game.
Twins are 3-12 in Lohse's last 15 starts as an underdog.
Twins are 1-4 in Lohse's last 5 starts when their opponent allows 5 runs or more in their previous game.
Twins are 1-5 in Lohse's last 6 starts when their opponent scores 2 runs or less in their previous game.
Twins are 0-3 in Lohse's last 3 Friday starts.


OU TrendsDetroit
Under is 3-0-0 in Tigers last 3 vs. American League Central.
Under is 4-0-0 in Tigers last 4 road games with the total set at 9.0-10.5.
Under is 3-0-1 in Tigers last 4 Friday games.
Under is 7-0-1 in Tigers last 8 during game 1 of a series.
Under is 3-0-0 in Tigers last 3 road games vs. a right-handed starter.
Under is 3-0-0 in Tigers last 3 road games.
Under is 5-1-0 in Tigers last 6 road games vs. a team with a losing record.
Under is 13-3-1 in Tigers last 17 vs. a team with a losing record.
Over is 4-1-2 in Tigers last 7 games as a favorite of -110 to -150.
Under is 4-1-0 in Tigers last 5 games as a favorite.
Under is 4-1-0 in Tigers last 5 games as a road favorite of -110 to -150.
Under is 16-5-1 in Tigers last 22 after allowing 5 runs or more in their previous game.
Under is 6-2-1 in Tigers last 9 games vs. a right-handed starter.
Under is 23-9-1 in Tigers last 33 night games.
Under is 20-8-4 in Tigers last 32 games with the total set at 9.0-10.5.
Under is 5-2-0 in Tigers last 7 games as a road favorite.
Under is 38-17-4 in Tigers last 59 overall.
Under is 15-7-0 in Tigers last 22 when their opponent allows 2 runs or less in their previous game.
Under is 15-7-1 in Tigers last 23 after scoring 2 runs or less in their previous game.
Under is 4-0-0 in Rogers' last 4 starts with the total set at 9.0-10.5.
Under is 3-0-0 in Rogers' last 3 starts during game 1 of a series.
Under is 3-0-0 in Rogers' last 3 starts vs. American League Central.
Under is 5-1-0 in Rogers' last 6 starts overall.


Minnesota
Under is 3-0-0 in Twins last 3 vs. American League Central.
Under is 3-0-0 in Twins last 3 night games.
Under is 3-0-1 in Twins last 4 when their opponent scores 2 runs or less in their previous game.
Under is 3-0-0 in Twins last 3 after allowing 2 runs or less in their previous game.
Under is 3-0-0 in Twins last 3 home games.
Under is 3-0-0 in Twins last 3 games vs. a left-handed starter.
Under is 3-0-0 in Twins last 3 overall.
Over is 5-0-0 in Twins last 5 home games vs. a team with a winning record.
Over is 6-0-0 in Twins last 6 games a home underdog of +110 to +150.
Under is 3-0-0 in Twins last 3 on Field Turf.
Over is 12-2-2 in Twins last 16 games as an underdog of +110 to +150.
Over is 5-1-0 in Twins last 6 when their opponent allows 5 runs or more in their previous game.
Over is 5-1-0 in Twins last 6 games a home underdog.
Over is 13-3-1 in Twins last 17 vs. a team with a winning record.
Over is 6-2-0 in Twins last 8 home games with the total set at 9.0-10.5.
Over is 20-7-2 in Twins last 29 games as an underdog.
Under is 5-2-1 in Twins last 8 games with the total set at 9.0-10.5.
Over is 7-3-1 in Twins last 11 during game 1 of a series.
Over is 7-3-0 in Twins last 10 after scoring 2 runs or less in their previous game.
Under is 9-4-0 in Twins last 13 home games vs. a left-handed starter.
Under is 8-1-1 in Lohse's last 10 starts vs. American League Central.
Under is 14-2-2 in Lohse's last 18 starts after allowing 2 runs or less in their previous game.
Under is 12-2-2 in Lohse's last 16 starts when their opponent scores 2 runs or less in their previous game.
Under is 5-1-0 in Lohse's last 6 Friday starts.
Under is 5-1-0 in Lohse's last 6 starts during game 1 of a series.
Under is 13-3-1 in Lohse's last 17 starts when their opponent allows 5 runs or more in their previous game.
Over is 4-1-1 in Lohse's last 6 home starts.
Over is 4-1-0 in Lohse's last 5 starts a home underdog.
Over is 4-1-1 in Lohse's last 6 starts on Field Turf.
Under is 4-1-1 in Lohse's last 6 starts as a home underdog of +110 to +150.
Under is 7-2-0 in Lohse's last 9 home starts vs. a team with a winning record.
Under is 7-2-0 in Lohse's last 9 starts as an underdog of +110 to +150.
Under is 16-5-1 in Lohse's last 22 starts as an underdog.
Under is 22-7-2 in Lohse's last 31 starts overall.
Under is 15-5-2 in Lohse's last 22 night starts.
Under is 23-8-2 in Lohse's last 33 starts vs. a team with a winning record.
Under is 19-7-3 in Lohse's last 29 starts with the total set at 9.0-10.5.


Head to HeadUnder is 3-0-0 in Lohse's last 3 starts vs. Tigers.
Twins are 5-1 in Lohse's last 6 home starts vs. Tigers.
Over is 5-1-1 in Lohse's last 7 home starts vs. Tigers.
Twins are 10-4 in Lohse's last 14 starts vs. Tigers.
Tigers are 30-67 in the last 97 meetings.
Tigers are 11-41 in the last 52 meetings in Minnesota

 

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8:10 PM ET W/L Units Home Away O/U RL W/L RL Units
Detroit 19-10 9.10 8-6 11-4 8-19-2 17-12 5.40
Minnesota 11-17 -6.43 8-5 3-12 17-9-2 9-19 -15.44
ConsensusDetroit 664-339 66.20%
Minnesota 339-664 33.80%
Consensus Details
Official Game ThreadTigers vs. Twins
Matchup EdgeDET Edge in: MIN

Starter
Bullpen
Hitting
Power
Speed
Defense
Bench


Recent Trends | In DepthDetroit: DET are 7-1 in their last 8 games as a favorite.
DET are 12-2 in their last 14 night games.
DET are 6-2 in their last 8 road games.

Minnesota: MIN are 2-8 in their last 10 Fri. games.
Over is 20-7-2 in MIN last 29 games as an underdog.
MIN are 4-10 in their last 14 overall.

Head to Head: MIN are 10-4 in Lohse's last 14 starts vs. DET.
DET are 30-67 in the last 97 meetings.



Starters | In-Depth | Starting Staffs
Overall W-L Tm W-L IP H WHIP ERA AF AA OU
Rogers, K (L)
Lohse, K (R) 4-2
1-2 4-2
3-2 41.2
25.2 31
36 0.98
1.91 2.59
8.77 4.7
5.6 2.3
6.0 1-5
3-2
Last 3 W-L Tm W-L IP H WHIP ERA AF AA OU
Rogers, K (L)
Lohse, K (R) 2-1
0-1 2-1
2-1 22.1
15.0 9
20 0.67
1.87 2.01
9.00 5.7
4.7 2.3
5.7 1-2
1-2
Recent Meetings
Date Home/Away H Starter A Starter M/L O/U
4/30/06 DET 6 - MIN 0 Rogers, K Lohse, K DET 165 U 9
4/29/06 DET 18 - MIN 1 Verlander, J Silva, C DET 138 O 9
4/28/06 DET 9 - MIN 0 Robertson, N Radke, B DET 128 P 9
2005 Season
10/2/05 MIN 6 - DET 4 Santana, J Robertson, N MIN 245 O 7
10/1/05 MIN 3 - DET 0 Baker, S Johnson, J MIN 130 U 9
9/30/05 MIN 7 - DET 3 Liriano, F Maroth, M MIN 120 O 9
9/14/05 DET 4 - MIN 2 Douglass, S Liriano, F DET -120 U 9
9/13/05 DET 3 - MIN 9 Robertson, N Radke, B MIN -110 O 8
9/12/05 DET 1 - MIN 2 Colon, R Lohse, K MIN -107 U 9
7/24/05 DET 5 - MIN 2 Bonderman, J Lohse, K DET 123 U 9
7/23/05 DET 2 - MIN 5 Verlander, J Baker, S MIN -107 U 9.5
7/23/05 DET 2 - MIN 1 Douglass, S Silva, C DET 100 U 9
7/22/05 DET 12 - MIN 6 Maroth, M Mays, J DET 109 O 9
7/21/05 DET 5 - MIN 10 Johnson, J Santana, J MIN -150 O 7.5
6/23/05 MIN 6 - DET 2 Silva, C Johnson, J MIN 120 U 9
6/22/05 MIN 1 - DET 8 Mays, J Robertson, N DET 120 P 9
6/21/05 MIN 2 - DET 7 Lohse, K Bonderman, J DET 100 P 9
4/25/05 DET 6 - MIN 4 Johnson, J Radke, B DET -123 O 8.5
4/22/05 DET 5 - MIN 4 x Maroth, M Silva, C DET 100 U 9.5
4/14/05 MIN 10 - DET 4 Radke, B Robertson, N MIN 130 O 9.5
DET's Last 10 | Season OPS AVG Starter IP Opp Starter IP
5/4/06 LAA 2-7 L -131 O 8.5 .363 .138 Verlander, J 6.0 Gregg, K 7.0
5/3/06 LAA 2-1 W -126 U 8.5 .660 .214 Robertson, N 7.1 Weaver, J 7.1
5/2/06 KC 4-1 W -233 U 8.5 .840 .276 Maroth, M 6.0 Redman, M 5.1
5/1/06 KC 3-2 W -225 U 8.5 .626 .200 Bonderman, J 8.0 Hernandez, R 6.2
4/30/06 MIN 6-0 W -173 U 9 .785 .281 Rogers, K 8.0 Lohse, K 5.2
4/29/06 MIN 18-1 W -146 O 9 1.364 .479 Verlander, J 7.0 Silva, C 2.2
4/28/06 MIN 9-0 W -136 P 9 1.165 .405 Robertson, N 7.0 Radke, B 2.1
4/26/06 @ LAA 0-4 L 124 U 8 .303 .077 Maroth, M 6.0 Lackey, J 8.0
4/25/06 @ LAA 5-2 W -105 U 8.5 .717 .265 Bonderman, J 6.0 Carrasco, H 5.0
4/24/06 @ LAA 0-3 L 115 U 8.5 .507 .188 Rogers, K 7.0 Santana, E 6.0
MIN's Last 10 | Season OPS AVG Starter IP Opp Starter IP
5/4/06 KC 0-1 L -148 U 9 .523 .161 Silva, C 7.0 Affeldt, J 5.0
5/3/06 KC 6-1 W -173 U 9.5 .727 .273 Radke, B 7.0 Mays, J 3.1
5/2/06 SEA 5-1 W -155 U 7 .636 .258 Santana, J 7.0 Washburn, J 7.0
5/1/06 SEA 2-8 L -121 O 9 .676 .265 Baker, S 5.1 Pineiro, J 9.0
4/30/06 @ DET 0-6 L 165 U 9 .169 .069 Lohse, K 5.2 Rogers, K 8.0
4/29/06 @ DET 1-18 L 138 O 9 .520 .212 Silva, C 2.2 Verlander, J 7.0
4/28/06 @ DET 0-9 L 128 P 9 .507 .188 Radke, B 2.1 Robertson, N 7.0
4/27/06 @ KC 7-3 W -196 O 8 .871 .333 Santana, J 8.0 Redman, M 1.2
4/26/06 @ KC 1-3 L -145 U 9.5 .355 .129 Baker, S 7.0 Hernandez, R 7.0
4/25/06 @ KC 2-1 W -116 U 9.5 .483 .194 Lohse, K 6.0 Elarton, S 7.0
Bullpens | In Depth
Total Available
IP WHIP ERA IP WHIP ERA
DET 67.0 1.06 2.96 67.0 1.06 2.96
Last 3 19.2 0.92 2.29 19.2 0.92 2.29
IP WHIP ERA IP WHIP ERA
MIN 77.1 1.63 4.19 77.1 1.63 4.19
Last 3 27.0 1.78 5.00 27.0 1.78 5.00
Umpire | Not Available
W/L O/U Runs Str. % HR Pit.
N/A - - - - - -
InjuriesDetroit Tigers | In-Depth
W/L*
O/U*
Fielders Status/Updated Current Current
Rodriguez, I. C Ques Fri - Rest - 5/5/06 notesWas rested on May 4th. 0-1
$-131 1-0
Young, D. DH 15-day DL - Quadricep - 5/4/06 notesWas placed on the DL on April 15th with a strained quadricep. has begun his rehab assignment. 13-6
$+707 5-12-2
Pitcher Status/Updated
Dingman, C. RP 60-day DL - Shoulder - 5/2/06 notesIs recovering from shoulder surgery.
Percival, T. RP 60-day DL - Elbow - 3/30/06 notesPlaced on the DL Apr 1st with pain in his elbow.
Minnesota Twins | In-Depth
W/L*
O/U*
Fielders Status/Updated Current Current
Castillo, L. 2B Prob Fri - Leg - 5/5/06 notesWas hurt turning a double play when Kerry Robinson's takeout slide caught him on the right leg. 0-0
$+0 0-0
Bartlett, J. SS Ques Fri - Hamstring - 5/5/06 notesHas been sidelined with a strained hamstring. 11-16
$-543 16-9-2
Sierra, R. RF 15-day DL - Bicep - 4/30/06 notesPlaced on the DL Apr 30th. MRI revealed a ruptured biceps tendon near his left elbow. Will rehabilitate the injury without surgery. 2-3
$-169 1-4
Pitcher Status/Updated
Gassner, D. RP 15-day DL - Elbow - 3/30/06 notesIs out with an strained elbow.
*W/L & O/U represent team records for games the player missed as a result of their current injury. Season W/L & Season O/U represents team records for games the player has missed over accumulative injuries. The value for $ is betting $100 for each game player missed.

 

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Injury Report

DET Tigers
Position Name Injury Status
*C Ivan Rodriguez Rest Questionable Fri. vs Min. 5/5
DH Dmitri Young Strained Quad 15 day DL (4/15) 4/18
RP Troy Percival Elbow 60 day DL (4/1) 4/4
RP Craig Dingman Shoulder 15 day DL (4/1) 4/4


MIN Twins
Position Name Injury Status
*2B Luis Castillo Cut Leg Expected to be available Fri. vs Det. 5/5
DH Ruben Sierra Bicep 15 day DL (5/1). Expected to miss several months. 5/2
SP Dave Gassner Elbow 15 day DL (3/29) 4/4

 

[socrstud]

TJ thanks for lengthy report....I just read Det looks to add Dimitri Young another power threat (activate him) for tonights game.

I will spend some more time looking at the stats......This years stats against the twins look pretty impresive...that's why I was stunned, but it doesn't look like Detroit plays well in the Metrodome.....we will see

Thanks TJ

 

[TJBELL]

No problem. Good luck in whatever you play!

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