Detroits third game in 5 nights.......

[maverick2112]

really did them in.

Congrats to Spurs backers.......down 4 going into the 4th the Pistons were in decent shape but a great 4th by Manu and Det going into one of those 5 minute no scoring slumps were the difference.

I am afraid if Detroit fails to take advantage of matchups........Prince, Billips etc.......then this may be a quick series..........

If Rasheed plays the rest of the series like he did tonight then the series is over.

Pistons made a decent run down 16 or so....cut it to 7 and then fumbled the missed shot away.......Sa scored what little chance the Pistons had was gone with the next bucket.

Would take a lot of guts to play an over in this series..............

 

[Scott4USC]

Detroit is in trouble. Spurs were off in 1q and Pistons came out strong. Spurs looked like they were playing against 6 men. Detroit did everything right to start game and got big lead. It took Spurs 1q to adjust to Detroits good defense. How could Detroit let Spurs dominate next 3 quarters? How could they blow that big lead? Bad sign.

Game 2 Detroit will have to face Spurs for 4 quarters. Not good.

Game 2 expect Bowen to shoot lights out for Spurs. Detroit will try and guard Parker, Duncan, and Ginoble tighter and will give Bowen, Barry, Horry etc. more open shots. They will make them in game 2. Tonight Bowen shot horrible and we all know he is very capable of making open shots, especially at home.

I thought G. Robinson played great. Rebounded well and did not force any shots (didn't really take any) This guy has big offensive game and he could come up huge for Spurs. I liked his discipline tonight and was great on defense and rebounding.

All in all, expect role players for Spurs to have HUGE game in game 2.

 

[maverick2112]

Scott...........You thought Indiana was in trouble after they got killed in Game 1 in Boston...........Lets not forget what happened there.

You cant judge a whole series by just 1 game.

If each team just holds there home court is a 7 game series so lets not jump to conclusions to quick............REMEMBER INDIANA\BOSTON.......

 

[THE KOD]

mav

wow that was low scoring game. Detroit did something to San A
offense. Couldn't maintain it though.

I played San Ant moneyline as I just thought no way they lose at home in first game. Detroit sure struggles on offense when they
need it.

gl rest of series.

 

[The Judge]

Game 2 expect Bowen to shoot lights out for Spurs. Detroit will try and guard Parker, Duncan, and Ginoble tighter and will give Bowen, Barry, Horry etc. more open shots. They will make them in game 2. Tonight Bowen shot horrible and we all know he is very capable of making open shots, especially at home.

Bowen is one of the league's top defensive players, but is very inconsistent on the offensive side of the ball. He averages only 8.5 points per game and last night did not score a single point. I do not "know he is very capable of making open shots", at home or on the road. Against Phoenix he scored 2, 3, 6 15 and 9 points against one of the worst defensive teams in the league. In the games against Seattle he scorred 2, 2, 3, 3, 8 and 9 points. The way I see it, expecting Bowen to "shoot lights out" at any time against the Pisatons is a stretch.

 

[Scott4USC]

Scott...........You thought Indiana was in trouble after they got killed in Game 1 in Boston...........Lets not forget what happened there.

You cant judge a whole series by just 1 game.

If each team just holds there home court is a 7 game series so lets not jump to conclusions to quick............REMEMBER INDIANA\BOSTON.......

I said things look bad for Detroit for this series based on game 1. I think most would agree. Pistons were only in game because it took Spurs 1q to get rust out. Pistons looked and played like a champion capitalizing on Spurs inablity to perform in 1q. They did everything right. What happened to them after Spurs adjusted? Why would they get outplayed for 3 straight quarters and give up such big lead?

I never said Pistons were done in this series. It just doesn't look good. Even if Pistons lose on Sunday, they are still in it with 3 straight games @Detroit. Maybe you think after game 1, things look good for Pistons. I can't take many positive things out of game 1 for Pistons. Maybe Hamilton shooting better and McDyes not shooting so horribly. But Spurs can make same arguments about some of there players.

Detroit has not played consistent all playoffs. They couldn't play consistent in game 1 of finals. Is this there approach to beating the Spurs?

All about adjustments. Spurs made great "in game" adjustments. Detroit regressed. Bad coaching for Detroit? Where was Detroits "in game" adjustments. Why would Brown sit Prince with 2 fouls for whole 2q? This is the finals and why risk blowing your nice lead to save Prince from getting 3 fouls. Stupid if you ask me.


Indiana/Boston is different animal.

Major reason I bet Boston to win series after game 1 was because Indiana was missing 2 of there best 3 players (Artest/Tinsely) and on top of that there were 3 other Pacer players playing injured. Tinsley was "not" expected back in series and earliest was game 6-7. J. Oneal (Indianas best player) was severly injured with shoulder and it showed in game 1 and previous playoff series. Unfortunately for me, J. Oneals shoulder suddenly got a whole lot better (and he played whole lot better) and Tinseley not only came back but came back earlier than expected. Injuries played BIG part in me taking Boston already up 1-0.

All in all, it was a bad call and lucky for me, the bad pick went 7 games and was able to get most $$$ back on 2h hedge.


The Judge

Good arguments. When I say Bowen shoots lights out, I mean shooting 3-5 or 3-4 etc. With at least 2 of those being 3pt shots. Bowen usually is pretty consistent behind the arc at home when he is left open. Spurs will take a 1-2 or 2-2 shooting night and be very happy.

For the year Bowen shot 40% behind the arc. Against all 3 playoff opponents, Bowen shot above 40% behind the arc. He is "very" capable of making an open 3pt shot, especially AT HOME! Maybe the odds are against Bowen and he has another 0-6 night. I will play the law of averages and knowing Bowen is good experienced player he will rebound nicely!

Bowen was 0-6 game 1 and I think he will rebound nicely. That is the kind of player he is. Game 2 is @SA which makes BIG difference. I could be wrong, but I think role players for Spurs will have terrific game 2.

 

[maverick2112]

Scott........you posted....."Detroit is in trouble".......I was just making the point its only 1 game and there is a lot of hoops to be played.

Despite the Spurs slow start it was only 55-51 going into the 4th quarter........so I thought Detroit was right where they needed to be. I agree wholeheartedly about some of Brown decisions..........bringing in Arroyo and McDyess early in second quarter was ????? to me. This is the finals and if guys like Billips, Prince etc cant go 40 minutes then they should not be in the lineup. I think Brown needs to forget about his bench unless its a necessity.

 

[maverick2112]

"Major reason I bet Boston to win series after game 1 was because Indiana was missing 2 of there best 3 players (Artest/Tinsely) and on top of that there were 3 other Pacer players playing injured. Tinsley was "not" expected back in series and earliest was game 6-7. J. Oneal (Indianas best player) was severly injured with shoulder and it showed in game 1 and previous playoff series. Unfortunately for me, J. Oneals shoulder suddenly got a whole lot better (and he played whole lot better) and Tinseley not only came back but came back earlier than expected. Injuries played BIG part in me taking Boston already up 1-0.

All in all, it was a bad call and lucky for me, the bad pick went 7 games and was able to get most $$$ back on 2h hedge."


Scott.........this doesnt make sense.........you say your reason for taking Boston was due to Indy's injured players..........if that was the case why didnt you place your large wager before the start of the series rather than wait after gm1 and lay 2-1????
All these guys you list were in the same condition before ga[me 1.

I was just referring to the point that like Detroit you believed Indy was also in trouble after gm 1 and they then went on to win 4 out of the next 6 games...........again a series is not over after 1 game. I dont really think any team is in trouble by losing the first game unless the is a major injury or something.

I think that gm 1 loser stat ( winner of gm 1 wins series 78% of time)......there have already been 3 series this season where gm 1 loser went on to win the series........(Indy, Dallas,San Antonio)

 

[Scott4USC]

Scott.........this doesnt make sense.........you say your reason for taking Boston was due to Indy's injured players..........if that was the case why didnt you place your large wager before the start of the series rather than wait after gm1 and lay 2-1????
All these guys you list were in the same condition before ga[me 1.)

Look at how Shaq played against Detroit. He missed 2 playoff games prior but looked much better than expected in west. conf. finals. I wanted to see first hand how injured etc. Pacers really were. In game 1 J. Oneal looked like he might not even finish the series. But lucky for Pacers fans he got better quickly. I gambled on him not being effective. Celtics are not an elite team so I had to see how they would perform. They performed well in game 1 and had advantage of being up 1-0 before me placing bet. Remember, Celts blew game 2. It was theres for the taking. If Celts won game 2, I strongly feel Celtics would have won the series convincingly. Just didn't work out well for me. Can't win em all.

I was just referring to the point that like Detroit you believed Indy was also in trouble after gm 1 and they then went on to win 4 out of the next 6 games...........again a series is not over after 1 game. I dont really think any team is in trouble by losing the first game unless the is a major injury or something.

I agree. My point was things don't look bright for Pistons based on game 1. Games 2-7 can be completely different but I doubt it. I think Pistons should/ or could have won game 1 and they let it go. They had huge advantage in 1q and excelled. You can't blow games in the finals. Spurs now might put together a solid game for 4quarters. Last night Spurs played well for 3quarters. Spurs are very tough to beat at home and Pistons need to win at least 1 game @SA to win series. Game 1 Pistons could have taken. They didn't!

 

[The Judge]

Game 2 expect Bowen to shoot lights out for Spurs.

Good call, Scott.

 

[Scott4USC]

Good call, Scott.

Thanks. It was easy call to make because Bowen does it all time. All I was banking on was him making open shots. He had couple bad games against Suns and bounced back nicely. He is very capable of making open 3pt shots and Pistons keep giving him open shots. Despite playing so well, Bowen still missed some easy 2pt shots.

That makes it 4 straight games RIP shot poorly against Spurs.

The guy who needs and will get on track is Brent Barry. He is better 3pt shooter than Bowen and he has been missing wide open 3pt shots 2 straight games. Pistons are playing russian roulette with him as well. Barry also is very capable of making open 3pt shots on road. Look at his performance in game 1 against Suns. I see big game from him sometime in Detroit. I believe he started off poorly against Sonics and stepped up at end of that series.

Duncan might be due for big game as well!