Deutsche Bank Championship
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3 72 hole matchups at CRIS ...
B Haas -105 vs S O'Hair
D Johnson +130 vs V Singh
R Allenby -105 vs P Mickelson
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B Haas -105 vs S O'Hair
D Johnson +130 vs V Singh
R Allenby -105 vs P Mickelson
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Once in awhile, I like to take a flyer on a guy most everyone has forgotten, but still has game. I saw this guy hit some shots last week on TV, and was surprised to see he quickened up his game. I felt that little yip he had for his iron game was holding him back, now it's gone.
Ben Crane to win 151.00 sia
Ben Crane to win 151.00 sia
1st Round Match Ups
E ELS -130 (E ELS vrs P MICKELSON)
S STRICKER -125 (P HARRINGTON vrs S STRICKER)
Outrights
ODDS TO WIN DEUTSCHE BANK CHAMPIONSHIP STEVE STRICKER +2000
ODDS TO WIN DEUTSCHE BANK CHAMPIONSHIP DUSTIN JOHNSON +4500
72 Hole Match Ups
E ELS -150 (E ELS vrs P MICKELSON)
S STRICKER -130 (H MAHAN vrs S STRICKER)
E ELS -130 (E ELS vrs P MICKELSON)
S STRICKER -125 (P HARRINGTON vrs S STRICKER)
Outrights
ODDS TO WIN DEUTSCHE BANK CHAMPIONSHIP STEVE STRICKER +2000
ODDS TO WIN DEUTSCHE BANK CHAMPIONSHIP DUSTIN JOHNSON +4500
72 Hole Match Ups
E ELS -150 (E ELS vrs P MICKELSON)
S STRICKER -130 (H MAHAN vrs S STRICKER)
72 holes
Stricker over Harrington -110
A good match-up. My perception of Stricker is that he does really well in these Fed-Ex Cup deals. Pod does well in the important tournaments, but this isn't one of them.
Stricker over Harrington -110
A good match-up. My perception of Stricker is that he does really well in these Fed-Ex Cup deals. Pod does well in the important tournaments, but this isn't one of them.
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This is the most confusing reasoning ever..
What tourneys are important besides the majors then?
The Duetsche Bank Championship for September 4th to 7th.
The Duetsche Bank Championship for September 4th to 7th.
Outrights to Win the Whole Tournament (Friday - Monday) :
1 1/2 Units : Steve Stricker to Win @ 18 : 1. WINNER!
1 1/2 Units : Ernie Els to Win @ 18 : 1.
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The Duetsche Bank Championship for September 4th to 7th.
Outrights to Win the Whole Tournament (Friday - Monday) :
1 1/2 Units : Steve Stricker to Win @ 18 : 1. WINNER!
1 1/2 Units : Ernie Els to Win @ 18 : 1.
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The Duetsche Bank Championship for September 4th to 7th.
The Duetsche Bank Championship for September 4th to 7th.
Whole Tournament Matchups for 72 holes for Friday thru Monday :
Three Units :
Justin Rose over Luke Donald @ - 105. Push.
Mike Weir over David Toms @ - 105. Won by 4.
Kenny Perry over Anthony Kim @ - 110. Lost by 1.
Ernie Els over Padraig Harrington @ - 115. Lost (by 14) on cut. Els cut.
Retief Goosen over Anthony Kim @ - 120. Won by 8.
Justin Rose over Ryan Moore @ - 125. Won (by 3) on cut. Moore cut.
Two Units :
Kenny Perry over Stewart Cink @ - 115. Won (by 1) on cut. Cink cut.
Camilo Villegas over Anthony Kim @ - 120. Lost by 5.
Hunter Mahan over Sergio Garcia @ - 125. Lost by 3.
Steve Stricker over Hunter Mahan @ - 130. Won by 12.
Ernie Els over Phil Mickelson @ - 145. Lost (by 9) on cut. Els cut.
Tiger Woods over Padraig Harrington @ - 425. Lost by 3.
One Unit :
Steve Stricker over Ernie Els @ + 105. Won (by 13) on cut. Els cut.
Sean O'Hair over Bill Haas @ + 100. Won by 2.
Robert Allenby over Phil Mickelson @ - 110. Lost (by 5) on cut. Allenby cut.
Y E Yang over Steve Marino @ - 115. Lost by 8.
Fredrik Jacobson over Heath Slocum @ - 125. Won (by 2) on cut. Slocum cut.
Nick Watney over Brian Gay @ - 145. Won by 2.
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The Duetsche Bank Championship for September 4th to 7th.
Whole Tournament Matchups for 72 holes for Friday thru Monday :
Three Units :
Justin Rose over Luke Donald @ - 105. Push.
Mike Weir over David Toms @ - 105. Won by 4.
Kenny Perry over Anthony Kim @ - 110. Lost by 1.
Ernie Els over Padraig Harrington @ - 115. Lost (by 14) on cut. Els cut.
Retief Goosen over Anthony Kim @ - 120. Won by 8.
Justin Rose over Ryan Moore @ - 125. Won (by 3) on cut. Moore cut.
Two Units :
Kenny Perry over Stewart Cink @ - 115. Won (by 1) on cut. Cink cut.
Camilo Villegas over Anthony Kim @ - 120. Lost by 5.
Hunter Mahan over Sergio Garcia @ - 125. Lost by 3.
Steve Stricker over Hunter Mahan @ - 130. Won by 12.
Ernie Els over Phil Mickelson @ - 145. Lost (by 9) on cut. Els cut.
Tiger Woods over Padraig Harrington @ - 425. Lost by 3.
One Unit :
Steve Stricker over Ernie Els @ + 105. Won (by 13) on cut. Els cut.
Sean O'Hair over Bill Haas @ + 100. Won by 2.
Robert Allenby over Phil Mickelson @ - 110. Lost (by 5) on cut. Allenby cut.
Y E Yang over Steve Marino @ - 115. Lost by 8.
Fredrik Jacobson over Heath Slocum @ - 125. Won (by 2) on cut. Slocum cut.
Nick Watney over Brian Gay @ - 145. Won by 2.
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The Duetsche Bank Championship for Friday, September 4th.
The Duetsche Bank Championship for Friday, September 4th.
Tournament Matchups for 18 holes for the First Round only :
Five Units :
Steve Stricker over Hunter Mahan @ - 105. Won by 10.
Now that's how a five unit first round play should win.
Four Units :
Ernie Els over Phil Mickelson @ - 125. Lost by 4.
Three Units :
Camilo Villegas over Anthony Kim @ - 115. Won by 1.
Kenny Perry over Stewart Cink @ - 115. Won by 2.
Two Units :
Y E Yang over Dustin Johnson @ - 115. Lost by 3.
Tiger Woods over Padriag Harrington @ - 250. Lost by 3.
Now that's not how a - 250 fav should lose.
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The Duetsche Bank Championship for Friday, September 4th.
Tournament Matchups for 18 holes for the First Round only :
Five Units :
Steve Stricker over Hunter Mahan @ - 105. Won by 10.
Now that's how a five unit first round play should win.
Four Units :
Ernie Els over Phil Mickelson @ - 125. Lost by 4.
Three Units :
Camilo Villegas over Anthony Kim @ - 115. Won by 1.
Kenny Perry over Stewart Cink @ - 115. Won by 2.
Two Units :
Y E Yang over Dustin Johnson @ - 115. Lost by 3.
Tiger Woods over Padriag Harrington @ - 250. Lost by 3.
Now that's not how a - 250 fav should lose.
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Outrights:
Deutsche Bank:
I'll confess to being conflicted and confused about where to go with my selections for this week.
Initially, taking my "normal" approach (which relies heavily on stuff lodged in my brain about something I've seen or heard recently that has been registering on my radar, and/or something from the past about a venue or a performance that "was" on my radar and has now come back in focus, and only rarely involves venturing off the reservation with "wild hair" notions that can't be supported under my more dependable rubrics), my short list was lining up to be something close to Els, Dustin Johnson (more on that later), Watney and Molder. But then I got into some research, and I seemed to keep butting into the fact that my recollections of this course really suiting big hitters had far too many exceptions on both sides of the coin. So then I got to liking Sal Johnson's notion (I know, big mistake) that the course really favored exceptional/streaky iron play, and that did seem to explain the trending data patterns a little better. And then I was reminded of the results from last week, and on a venue few loved, the cream on the final leaderboard was as impressive as you are likely to ever see, so it seemed fair to say that these guys are professionals, and with real millions at stake, and real volatility in the system, maybe the Fed Ex Cup had their attention, and it would be much that way down the stretch.
So now I'm jettisoning much of my initial take, and going this way instead:
Ernie Els(20/1) e.w.
- - Back in the day, you could count on Ernie keeping his top form for extended stretches.
Hunter Mahan(33/1) e.w.
- - In an odd place regarding the President's Cup, but in my book has supplanted Toms (who was always ahead of Furyk) as the non-winner that has played the winningest golf this season.
Dustin Johnson(66/1) e.w.
- - Definitely not a game or a swing that I have ever been fond of when it comes to carrying my cash on a Sunday, but something about last week combined with this week's venue has me sticking with my initial instincts to buck my usual disdain. But far too popular this week to bode well, that for should.
Y.E. Yang(66/1) e.w.
- - Time enough to stake his claim for underappreciated achiever of the year.
Padraig Harrington(16/1) e.w.
- - I looked at Moore and Howell (and Molder) as long shots (a strategy with merit given Tiger's recent bridesmaid finishes), and looked at Z. Johnson and Toms and Snedeker, and arrived at this being the better direction.
Pebble Beach:
Mark O'Meara(16/1) e.w.
- "Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, CockSucker, MotherFucker, and Tits . . . and Tits doesn't even belong on the list," to quote George Carlin. I don't usually get too wound up when a potential winner gets away, but that exact quote was on my mind this time while I watched "Bombs Away" Loren Roberts match what should have been O'meara's decisive birdie binge around the turn last Sunday, and then pip him at the end . . . On to this week, and even if I've got a blind spot, I'm still discerning enough to have easily recognized that O'Meara's skinny price this week was at least thrice the value of anything being offered for Michelle Wie to continue on with a non-stop ascension.
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Deutsche Bank:
I'll confess to being conflicted and confused about where to go with my selections for this week.
Initially, taking my "normal" approach (which relies heavily on stuff lodged in my brain about something I've seen or heard recently that has been registering on my radar, and/or something from the past about a venue or a performance that "was" on my radar and has now come back in focus, and only rarely involves venturing off the reservation with "wild hair" notions that can't be supported under my more dependable rubrics), my short list was lining up to be something close to Els, Dustin Johnson (more on that later), Watney and Molder. But then I got into some research, and I seemed to keep butting into the fact that my recollections of this course really suiting big hitters had far too many exceptions on both sides of the coin. So then I got to liking Sal Johnson's notion (I know, big mistake) that the course really favored exceptional/streaky iron play, and that did seem to explain the trending data patterns a little better. And then I was reminded of the results from last week, and on a venue few loved, the cream on the final leaderboard was as impressive as you are likely to ever see, so it seemed fair to say that these guys are professionals, and with real millions at stake, and real volatility in the system, maybe the Fed Ex Cup had their attention, and it would be much that way down the stretch.
So now I'm jettisoning much of my initial take, and going this way instead:
Ernie Els(20/1) e.w.
- - Back in the day, you could count on Ernie keeping his top form for extended stretches.
Hunter Mahan(33/1) e.w.
- - In an odd place regarding the President's Cup, but in my book has supplanted Toms (who was always ahead of Furyk) as the non-winner that has played the winningest golf this season.
Dustin Johnson(66/1) e.w.
- - Definitely not a game or a swing that I have ever been fond of when it comes to carrying my cash on a Sunday, but something about last week combined with this week's venue has me sticking with my initial instincts to buck my usual disdain. But far too popular this week to bode well, that for should.
Y.E. Yang(66/1) e.w.
- - Time enough to stake his claim for underappreciated achiever of the year.
Padraig Harrington(16/1) e.w.
- - I looked at Moore and Howell (and Molder) as long shots (a strategy with merit given Tiger's recent bridesmaid finishes), and looked at Z. Johnson and Toms and Snedeker, and arrived at this being the better direction.
Pebble Beach:
Mark O'Meara(16/1) e.w.
- "Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, CockSucker, MotherFucker, and Tits . . . and Tits doesn't even belong on the list," to quote George Carlin. I don't usually get too wound up when a potential winner gets away, but that exact quote was on my mind this time while I watched "Bombs Away" Loren Roberts match what should have been O'meara's decisive birdie binge around the turn last Sunday, and then pip him at the end . . . On to this week, and even if I've got a blind spot, I'm still discerning enough to have easily recognized that O'Meara's skinny price this week was at least thrice the value of anything being offered for Michelle Wie to continue on with a non-stop ascension.
GL
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Taking a few weeks off , Im moving cross country at the end of the month. Will get back into sports and gambling, once I get settled in. I honestly didn't even know the tourney started Friday, thats how closely i have been following it the past 2 weeks.
Round 1 plays (2pts):
Sergia Garcia to beat Padraig Harrington +110 @ Paddy Power [available generally]
Backed this matchup last week and Garcia won en route to leading The Barclays after the 1st round. Harrington did finish the event better, but having missed the cut at the course on both his previous visits, he may not continue his recent good run of form. Garcia has finished 17th and 5th here in the last two years and has certainly shown that he can play very well for 18 holes, rather than 72.
Tim Clark to beat David Toms +102 @ Pinnacle [also available @ Bet365 and WSEX]
I don't see why Toms is the favourite in this matchup. He withdrew after an opening 75 in his last appearance here and has not shown any of the form that he displayed in June. Clark has finished ahead of him in four of their last five common events (so there doesn't seem to be any lingering problem with his neck) and he has two top-15 finishes at the TPC Boston in four attempts.
Luke Donald to beat Ian Poulter +100 @ William Hill
Poulter may be displaying the better form at the moment, but with missed cuts in both his previous starts on this course, he would have been expected to prepare well this week. Instead, he has only played the pro-am according to his Twitter site and spent yesterday evening at a Patriots vs. Giants game at Tom Brady's hospitality. He seemed more concerned that he was playing with Stewart Cink and needed to depose him as the Twitter King. On a course that he knows well and has played well on, this approach would be fine, but I can only oppose for this round at least.
Sergia Garcia to beat Padraig Harrington +110 @ Paddy Power [available generally]
Backed this matchup last week and Garcia won en route to leading The Barclays after the 1st round. Harrington did finish the event better, but having missed the cut at the course on both his previous visits, he may not continue his recent good run of form. Garcia has finished 17th and 5th here in the last two years and has certainly shown that he can play very well for 18 holes, rather than 72.
Tim Clark to beat David Toms +102 @ Pinnacle [also available @ Bet365 and WSEX]
I don't see why Toms is the favourite in this matchup. He withdrew after an opening 75 in his last appearance here and has not shown any of the form that he displayed in June. Clark has finished ahead of him in four of their last five common events (so there doesn't seem to be any lingering problem with his neck) and he has two top-15 finishes at the TPC Boston in four attempts.
Luke Donald to beat Ian Poulter +100 @ William Hill
Poulter may be displaying the better form at the moment, but with missed cuts in both his previous starts on this course, he would have been expected to prepare well this week. Instead, he has only played the pro-am according to his Twitter site and spent yesterday evening at a Patriots vs. Giants game at Tom Brady's hospitality. He seemed more concerned that he was playing with Stewart Cink and needed to depose him as the Twitter King. On a course that he knows well and has played well on, this approach would be fine, but I can only oppose for this round at least.
Tiger misses from 12 feet, 9 feet, 9 feet, 6 feet on consecutive holes :scared Turning into one of the worst putters on tour some how some way.... who woulda thunk it. 
Round 2 plays (3pts):
Anthony Kim to beat Camilo Villegas +100 @ Carib [also available @ SkyBet]
Kevin Stadler to beat Marc Leishman +115 @ Unibet [also available @ Extrabet]
Ian Poulter to beat Dustin Johnson +120 @ SkyBet [tie loses] [also available @ Extrabet and Unibet]
Anthony Kim to beat Camilo Villegas +100 @ Carib [also available @ SkyBet]
Kevin Stadler to beat Marc Leishman +115 @ Unibet [also available @ Extrabet]
Ian Poulter to beat Dustin Johnson +120 @ SkyBet [tie loses] [also available @ Extrabet and Unibet]
