Dick's who give more than Gore

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Just some petty Gore hating. Sorry I had to.

Conspicuous Charity
By ARTHUR C. BROOKS
April 18, 2007; Page A17
You might remember the fact, reported ad nauseam in the mainstream press last year, that Vice President Dick Cheney's 2005 tax return showed he had a family income of $8.8 million. This was due in no small part from stock options from a variety of companies, including the much-vilified Halliburton Corp. This fact provoked howls of outrage from many of Mr. Cheney's critics, who claimed it was evidence of what one syndicated columnist has called an "autocratic, plutocratic regime."

Significantly less-frequently reported last year was this datum: Mr. and Mrs. Cheney gave 78% of their 2005 income to charity. That's not a typo -- the couple donated $6.9 million, including the proceeds from stock options and book royalties that Mrs. Cheney routinely gives away. Their giving went to three nonprofit causes in health, higher education and services for inner-city youth.

While the Cheneys might look like elite philanthropists, Mr. and Mrs. Bush were no charitable slouches either. Foursquare tithers, they gave away 12.2% of their adjusted gross income in 2005, and similar percentages in past years. Their giving tends to go to more middle-class causes, including their church, the American Red Cross and the Salvation Army.

How does the current administration compare with the previous one? In 1999, the Clintons gave away a solid 9.4% of their income, while the Gores gave 5.1%. Two years earlier, however, the former vice president's giving had earned some special attention. In 1997, the Gores only gave away $353 of their income of $197,729, or 0.18%. Mr. Gore's spokesman deflected criticism by pointing out that, "To truly judge a person's commitment to helping others, you need to consider what they have done with their lives and how they have spent their time -- and by that standard the Gores are extraordinarily committed." In other words, Mr. Gore's life was his charity.

Despite this defense, the revelation clearly was embarrassing to the vice president, and the next year the Gores recovered by giving away a far more respectable 6.8%. Why did Mr. Gore feel the need to defend himself when his non-giving came to light, and raise his donations the following year? Indeed, why is it that America's leaders always feel compelled to release their tax returns (which they do voluntarily) and show that they give generously? Are we a nation of scolds, ready to condemn our leaders for insufficient displays of selflessness and altruism?

There is a better explanation for why we look for our leaders to give. Recent research suggests that giving is one way that we identify qualities of leadership in others. For example, in 2006, two British researchers conducted an experiment on human subjects in which participants were given money and asked if they wanted to share it voluntarily with a larger group. Some did, and some did not.

This kind of experiment is quite common, and many economists have used it to understand our tendency to cooperate with each other. In this particular experiment, however, there was an ingenious twist: Without announcing it beforehand, the researchers followed up the cooperation exercise by asking the participants to vote for a leader. Eighty percent of the time, the person who had contributed the most to the other members of the group was elected. The biggest givers were also the most popularly-chosen partners in follow-up tasks, while selfish participants were shunned.

In other words, when Mr. Gore failed to give, Americans probably didn't see mere selfishness; we perceived a lack of leadership. Maybe he seemed slightly less presidential. There are many ways to give besides tax-deductible contributions to nonprofits, of course, and there is no doubt the Gores gave in many ways not captured on their tax return. The problem for him was that we couldn't see them.

This raises an interesting ethical problem: Isn't it somehow less than altruistic to give publicly, especially when our giving benefits us by winning the approbation of others? Perhaps. But it is worth keeping in mind that giving openly also provokes mimicry by others, and thus a public gift can multiply itself. In this way, giving abundantly and openly -- giving like a leader -- benefits everyone.

Mr. Brooks teaches at Syracuse University's Maxwell School of Public Affairs and is the author of "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism" (Basic Books, 2006).
 

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Is this another of your down the middle post? When you find out how much money both sides gave which were not tax payer funded, then bring back your numbers. When you start a war and make money from war profiteering i guess its okay then to give it to charity and every thing should be on the up and up. The way Cheney and Bush make their money is a complete disgrace and i don't care if they gave everything back they still would be a disgrace just like your post. When you make side money gouging americans with ridiculously high gas prices i don't care how much you give back to charities.
 

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I didnt say it was a down the middle post. I dont like Gore, and I made that clear at the top of the post. I even preemptively apoligized.

I dont think Bush or Cheny are saints either-I dont like either of them much, just more than I like Gore-which also isnt saying much.

I dont know if i would call my post "disgraceful", maybe just "interesting" would do.
 

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Mr. Brooks teaches at Syracuse University's Maxwell School of Public Affairs and is the author of "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism" (Basic Books, 2006).

Lots of other observations in his book. One that caught my eye is which political affiliation gives the least to charity
--hint its the one that preaches 2 america's
Yes --The liberal

Of course if you look at clinton-Gore Kerry contributions that should come as no surprise--however on same note Edwards was quite charitable++++++++++++++++
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/who_really_cares.html

Conservatives not only donate more money to charity than liberals do, conservatives volunteer more time as well. More conservatives than liberals also donate blood.

According to Professor Brooks: "If liberals and moderates gave blood at the same rate as conservatives, the blood supply of the United States would jump about 45 percent."

Professor Brooks admits that the facts he uncovered were the opposite of what he expected to find -- so much so that he went back and checked these facts again, to make sure there was no mistake.


This study found young liberals to make the least charitable contributions of all, whether in money, time or blood. Idealism in words is not idealism in deeds.
 

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Mr. Brooks teaches at Syracuse University's Maxwell School of Public Affairs and is the author of "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism" (Basic Books, 2006).

Lots of other observations in his book. One that caught my eye is which political affiliation gives the least to charity
--hint its the one that preaches 2 america's
Yes --The liberal

Of course if you look at clinton-Gore Kerry contributions that should come as no surprise--however on same note Edwards was quite charitable++++++++++++++++
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/who_really_cares.html

Conservatives not only donate more money to charity than liberals do, conservatives volunteer more time as well. More conservatives than liberals also donate blood.

According to Professor Brooks: "If liberals and moderates gave blood at the same rate as conservatives, the blood supply of the United States would jump about 45 percent."

Professor Brooks admits that the facts he uncovered were the opposite of what he expected to find -- so much so that he went back and checked these facts again, to make sure there was no mistake.


This study found young liberals to make the least charitable contributions of all, whether in money, time or blood. Idealism in words is not idealism in deeds.

You just dont see the difference between dirty money and honest money do you dogs? We use to have a Mafia figure around here that gave away turkeys every thanksgiving. This ruthless thug who is now in jail, became kind hearted on this occasion. It was also well know that under his breath he hated doing this because he was known to be very cheap. He did this for nothing but image and image only. These donation from your buddies remind me of the filthy mouthed lying, cheating ,scum who run to church three times a week to clean their souls.
 

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Maybe you could give us critique on honest/dirty money and explain how a person who never paid taxes on over $36,000 in personal income till he became president--and in 8 years is multi millionaire after paying millions in legal defense :shrug:

---did he :nono: in your face and tell you there was no quid pro quo--and you believe him
:142smilie
 

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Dog dirty money is dirty money no matter which side it comes from. When you talk of huge dirty money this administration has hands down made the most.
 

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i`m highly offended....

Nah weasal you could never get under my skin like that punk. Maybe some day we could go to that superbowl party and catch the ufc event that is always there that time of year. If unfortunately on that high volume weekend somebody throws a grenade next to us, if you could kindly dive on it, it would be greatly appreciated:scared
 

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If I remember right and I do. The 3 biggest givers in the world. Those nasty liberals. Yes liberals.
 

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Interesting. Conservatives may give more blood, according to your numbers, but liberals give more plasma, according to my numbers.

Almost everyone I used to run into down at the plasma lab was a liberal. Naturally, they don't vote because they don't have an address, but why should that matter for purposes of counting heads in the liberal camp?

I'm kidding, of course, since these folks aren't donating for charity cases; they are charity cases. The lab pays $9 per visit; limited to one visit per week; but if you manage to go five times in one month they will pay $10 per visit. So, between that and the food stamps and the disability benefits, it ain't much, but its a living.
 

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Bush and Cheney donate. Big f'n deal. They are costing us more lives and money than any donations can ever change. We will be paying the piper for these ridiculous, backwards, dark ages policies for a long time to come.
 

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no matter what political party a person belongs to or how much a person earns....as long as they have his/her health...a donation to charity should be given. even if it's $5...just to show his/her appreciation for having his/her health, having a healthy & loving family & for living in this country.

i wonder how many people on this forum who is judging what a politican gives to charity makes a donation ?
 
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