Did We Really Go to the Moon?

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this guy just posted this on my local hunting forum. Same user id and everything.

I'm interested to know how the 911 truthers feel about this. I can go along with there being things that happened that weren't told to the public. However, I don't believe that the moon landing was faked.
 

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Oh jeez....try jumping up and down by your stereo to see if the CD skips! There's my proof.

Ask the 23 guys who were there! Shepard is dead. Can't tell you who else is still alive, but I'm sure they would love to telll the stories again.

Ri-fvck-u-lous.
 

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Play Stairway to Heaven backwards and get back to PTguard and his mindless disciple Agent. It will all come together.
 

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The only thing that makes the moon landing hard to believe is that we've done almost nothing cool since then. Watch the documentary 'For All Mankind' and you have no doubts that it was very real.
 

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It almost doesn't matter if we actually got to the moon.

Most serious scientists not affiliated with NASA will tell you manned spaceflight is more or less pointless at this juncture. We learn just as much, or more by sending robots and computers to do the work, at far less risk and FAR FAR less cost.

The mars rovers are the perfect example. How many billions of dollars would it cost to send a man there, and what would be accomplished?

The generation growing up today doesn't need the "human" element to get them excited about the space program. I would argue that anyone under 30 would be just as excited to hear about and see new robotic technology at work in space, than someone pointlessly planting a flag on the surface of Mars.

NASA needs new leadership and politicians need to stop proposing lofty unrealistic human space. missions.

There is also the widely debunked theory that the space program has led to huge technological innovations back on Earth. Most experts believe that is BS too.
 

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At the 2 minute 35 second mark of the video the flag is still. When the astronaut goes past it, it starts to move.

at this point NASA had to either edit out the footage where the astronaut took a leak on the moon ;) or

an alien walked by the scene:scared
 

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I would argue that anyone under 30 would be just as excited to hear about and see new robotic technology at work in space, than someone pointlessly planting a flag on the surface of Mars.
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Im

I agree with alot of what you said.

But the reason we need to continue to send humans to the far reachs of outerspace is that because one day, we are going to fawk up our earth so bad , we will have to have somewhere else to go to perpetuate and continue human life.

Its sad to think about. Global warming, WWIII,
famine, asteroids, terrorists, etc etc.

It will take some time to find a planet that will be hospitable enough for humans to live there.
 

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Everything is a conspiracy. Name one major event anywhere in the world in the history of the world and I will give you enough to "proof" to suggest it there was a conspiracy behind it. Most likley I will be able to tie in the US govt and the Jews as well. There are fools who will believe any BS. And, the best part is, the believers will call all who do not buy it, sheep. Paranoia is an easily tapped into emotion that can be maniuplated at will.
 

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Everything is a conspiracy. Name one major event anywhere in the world in the history of the world and I will give you enough to "proof" to suggest it there was a conspiracy behind it. Most likley I will be able to tie in the US govt and the Jews as well. .
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OK here is one.

When the Berlin wall came down in Germany


:0corn :0corn
 

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Thanks, Fat Freddy. I'm sure everyone here had the time AND the inclination to not only read your entire post, but also view the dozens of clips you linked.
 

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OK here is one.

When the Berlin wall came down in Germany


:0corn :0corn

Come on, wake up. Reagan was so blatent about attacking that wall for what he claimed was for american security and freedom. Hardly the real truth. Contrary to popular belief, the people of the east were living in a socialist paradise in which the government was able to provide for their needs. Leaving them time to pursue higher goals than to slave away for western corporations. Why do you think you saw so many great eastern european artists in the post WWII era?

Now, the US government was worried about the wall not for the reasons they would want you to believe. Sure they said it was because of security and the wall was a constant reminder of the dangers of the USSR. It allowed the gov't to increase our defense spending to levels never seen before. Those corporations involved in defense, which are some of hte biggest corps in the world got plenty fat selling the gov't (you) $50 screws and so on. It was 40 years of stealing and plundering american citizens bank accounts. Those few who new better were afraid to speak up for fear of being labeled a communist. Sound familiar? Hello???? Remeber what happened to the Rosenbergs? Bush has taken a page out of this playbook word for word!

Now, what happened was that with corporate americas incredible growth at a cost to the common man, they needed more workers to feed the insatiable appetite of their corporate system. Yes, they were so successful, they were literally running out of workers. In eastern europe, they saw a highly skilled - thanks to communism - cheap, cheap labor. So, the only thing left to do was for corp america to send their lacky - ie Ronald Reagan who just happened to work for GE before they placed him in govt. (Strange coincidence. A man with no real political experience who happens to work for the largest corp in the world gets his first job as the governor of the largest state in the country.) He met in several high level meetings with Gorbachov that we all saw and read about. But, what do you think they were really discussing? It was an old fashion corporate negotiation. They were coming up with a price for that e. european labor. The pulitburo put a price of about $3/laborer. To make these things seem like what we were made to believe, once the US paid for a country's work force - one country at a time if you remember, they would miracously become a "free" "democratic" nation. Yeah, free to be exploited!

Some questions for all of you sheep:

1) The eastern euro countries proved in the 50's and 60's that if an uprising occured, they were well prepared to deal with it. See the Czech and Hungarian uprisings. Yet, in the '90's after these labor forces were bought and paid for, they made no attempt to quell these "spontanous" revolutions.

2) Why is there no transcripts from the actual negotiations of Reagan - Gorbochov? For such a historic event, you would think they would have recorded what was said - unless they were hiding the real reason.

3) Why have so many of the people who were at these negotations now dead? Coincedence? Old Age? Surely you're not that naive.

4) Strange that Reagans memory suddenly went down hill right after the wall came down. The CIA has used drugs that slowly erase memories plenty before. Once the deal was done, it was time to get rid of the evidence - Reagan's memory was just one thing to be disposed of.
 

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If they went to the Moon or McDonald's for burgers, What difference does it make? You paid for a trip to the Moon.
 

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Come on, wake up. Reagan was so blatent about attacking that wall for what he claimed was for american security and freedom. Hardly the real truth. Contrary to popular belief, the people of the east were living in a socialist paradise in which the government was able to provide for their needs. Leaving them time to pursue higher goals than to slave away for western corporations. Why do you think you saw so many great eastern european artists in the post WWII era?

Now, the US government was worried about the wall not for the reasons they would want you to believe. Sure they said it was because of security and the wall was a constant reminder of the dangers of the USSR. It allowed the gov't to increase our defense spending to levels never seen before. Those corporations involved in defense, which are some of hte biggest corps in the world got plenty fat selling the gov't (you) $50 screws and so on. It was 40 years of stealing and plundering american citizens bank accounts. Those few who new better were afraid to speak up for fear of being labeled a communist. Sound familiar? Hello???? Remeber what happened to the Rosenbergs? Bush has taken a page out of this playbook word for word!

Now, what happened was that with corporate americas incredible growth at a cost to the common man, they needed more workers to feed the insatiable appetite of their corporate system. Yes, they were so successful, they were literally running out of workers. In eastern europe, they saw a highly skilled - thanks to communism - cheap, cheap labor. So, the only thing left to do was for corp america to send their lacky - ie Ronald Reagan who just happened to work for GE before they placed him in govt. (Strange coincidence. A man with no real political experience who happens to work for the largest corp in the world gets his first job as the governor of the largest state in the country.) He met in several high level meetings with Gorbachov that we all saw and read about. But, what do you think they were really discussing? It was an old fashion corporate negotiation. They were coming up with a price for that e. european labor. The pulitburo put a price of about $3/laborer. To make these things seem like what we were made to believe, once the US paid for a country's work force - one country at a time if you remember, they would miracously become a "free" "democratic" nation. Yeah, free to be exploited!

Some questions for all of you sheep:

1) The eastern euro countries proved in the 50's and 60's that if an uprising occured, they were well prepared to deal with it. See the Czech and Hungarian uprisings. Yet, in the '90's after these labor forces were bought and paid for, they made no attempt to quell these "spontanous" revolutions.

2) Why is there no transcripts from the actual negotiations of Reagan - Gorbochov? For such a historic event, you would think they would have recorded what was said - unless they were hiding the real reason.

3) Why have so many of the people who were at these negotations now dead? Coincedence? Old Age? Surely you're not that naive.

4) Strange that Reagans memory suddenly went down hill right after the wall came down. The CIA has used drugs that slowly erase memories plenty before. Once the deal was done, it was time to get rid of the evidence - Reagan's memory was just one thing to be disposed of.
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:142smilie :142smilie :142smilie

flap

you did it !
 

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Circa: June 1963, JFK was so pissed at the bad info he was getting from his intelligence sources, he wanted to get the military out of SE Asia and shake up or outright do away with the CIA. November, he was dead.
John Connelly's wife told CBS 60 minutes that his last words before he lost consciousness "They're going to get us all."
 
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