Diplomacy?
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It seems to me that they are trying everything possible to avoid a conflict but if this guy doesn't comply what other choice do they have?
I feel enough is enough this guy has deceived the world community long enough. 911 proved that oceans don't protect us from people who wish harm on us. If you can honestly say that Sadam Hussein doesn't wish harm on us then I don't know what else to say.
How much longer do you want to give this guy then?
How much longer do you want to give this guy then?
Of course I consider him an enemy of the United States. But I don't think he can hurt us any more than dozens of others out there. What acts of aggression has he shown in the last dozen years? What are the plans after we oust him? Democracy? That's risky. Who knows who they will elect. They can barely vote in Florida you expect them to pull off something that looks like Democracy there?
No I guess it is not a good idea because no one in the present adminestration is capable of it. They can't even get most of the world to go along with them. No matter how much money they offer. That should tell you something right there.
Why didn't Bush mention this Liberation of Iraq while he was running for President? They must of been out of complience back then.
Why didn't Bush mention this Liberation of Iraq while he was running for President? They must of been out of complience back then.
summit
n 1: the highest level or degree attainable: "his landscapes were deemed the acme of beauty"; "the artist's gifts are at their acme"; "at the height of her career"; "the peak of perfection"; "summer was at its peak"; "...catapulted Einstein to the pinnacle of fame"; "the summit of his ambition"; "so many highest superlatives achieved by man"; "at the top of his profession" [syn: acme, height, elevation, peak, pinnacle, superlative, top] 2: the uppermost part of a shape; "at the peak of the pyramid" [syn: crown, peak] 3: the top point of a mountain or hill; "the view from the peak was magnificent"; "they clambered to the summit of Monadnock" [syn: peak, crown, crest, top, tip] 4: a meeting of heads of governments [syn: summit meeting]
Kind of tough to have diplomacy when you've got a country that has already said that they will veto the plan that another country is asking for. France has finally made it back to the world stage and the only thing that they will accomplish is to destroy the UN and any future significance that they will ever have for the sake of a dictator.
n 1: the highest level or degree attainable: "his landscapes were deemed the acme of beauty"; "the artist's gifts are at their acme"; "at the height of her career"; "the peak of perfection"; "summer was at its peak"; "...catapulted Einstein to the pinnacle of fame"; "the summit of his ambition"; "so many highest superlatives achieved by man"; "at the top of his profession" [syn: acme, height, elevation, peak, pinnacle, superlative, top] 2: the uppermost part of a shape; "at the peak of the pyramid" [syn: crown, peak] 3: the top point of a mountain or hill; "the view from the peak was magnificent"; "they clambered to the summit of Monadnock" [syn: peak, crown, crest, top, tip] 4: a meeting of heads of governments [syn: summit meeting]
Kind of tough to have diplomacy when you've got a country that has already said that they will veto the plan that another country is asking for. France has finally made it back to the world stage and the only thing that they will accomplish is to destroy the UN and any future significance that they will ever have for the sake of a dictator.
Where to begin?
"No one in the present administration is capable of it." As opposed to what other administration that successfully negotiated with Saddam?
"Why didn't Bush mention the liberation of Iraq when he was running for president." Sept. 11, 2001; 17 UN resolutions ignored. Why didn't Clinton mention Iraq and Bosnia when he was running for president?
"What acts of aggression had he committed in the last 12 years?" I refuse to answer this because it could be one of the most ludicrous assertions ever conceived by the mind of a human. You have to be kidding!
"He can't hurt us more than dozens of others out there." I would love to see your Top 24 list of countries that can hurt us. Would Iraq rank up there with say, Camaroon?
"No one in the present administration is capable of it." As opposed to what other administration that successfully negotiated with Saddam?
"Why didn't Bush mention the liberation of Iraq when he was running for president." Sept. 11, 2001; 17 UN resolutions ignored. Why didn't Clinton mention Iraq and Bosnia when he was running for president?
"What acts of aggression had he committed in the last 12 years?" I refuse to answer this because it could be one of the most ludicrous assertions ever conceived by the mind of a human. You have to be kidding!
"He can't hurt us more than dozens of others out there." I would love to see your Top 24 list of countries that can hurt us. Would Iraq rank up there with say, Camaroon?
What is the plan for the region after we liberate? Any timetable for when we get out? How much is this going to cost? Why does Bush call this Summit a "Last chance for peace" when there are only people there that agree with us?
Just a few questions that I have not seen answered yet.
Just a few questions that I have not seen answered yet.
Stevie - The questions you ask in your last post are certainly legitimate. I don't have the answers nor does anyone else here at Jacks. These are questions that ultimately must be answered by the leaders of our country. It is conceivable, that these guys know more than we do and do not choose to share it as this moment. I will ask you two questions that no one seems up to answering either - at least in a serious not mocking manner.
1. What would you do about Saddam? (Give Peace A Chance is not acceptable)
2. Under what circumstances, if any, would you advocate our forceable disarming of Saddam?
I know it may seem simple minded, but I believe that guys like Powell know more than I do. I think I would be wise to let them make decisions, at least until I can get my CIA network, satellites, and the like in order. At that time, Eddie Haskell and I will sit down and figure out what to do. Until then, we are stuck with the likes of Powell, Rice, Rumsfield, Cheney, and Bush.
1. What would you do about Saddam? (Give Peace A Chance is not acceptable)
2. Under what circumstances, if any, would you advocate our forceable disarming of Saddam?
I know it may seem simple minded, but I believe that guys like Powell know more than I do. I think I would be wise to let them make decisions, at least until I can get my CIA network, satellites, and the like in order. At that time, Eddie Haskell and I will sit down and figure out what to do. Until then, we are stuck with the likes of Powell, Rice, Rumsfield, Cheney, and Bush.
I guess it does look confusing. The three countires that agree to have talks. I guess they can talk to each other about they still agree. And maybe more important alittle show here to help save Tonys political a??. Seems they should have invited some folks like Russia, Maybe Germany. For get France becasue there still stuck in 1938. Maybe there talking about what to do with Iraqs 110 to 125 billion barrels of oil under it's feet. I guess we will only now what they want us to. Did Mr Bush sound like he wanted war someone asked above. Unless my ears here thinks differant then most. Yes he has. For about 6 months now. Even a little back in last July before they ever went to the UN. The VP before going into hiding 8/9 months sounded more like it then Bush. But they sound alike now. I dont know why anyone doubts that. Its been in the papers and on TV so long now maybe it got old and everyone forgot. But when you play hunches and they make you look bad, it looks like your in a big hurry. When you look at this Turkey screw up. We should have troops and equipment floating off shore there for over 4/5 weeks. Guessing it will be ok anyday to land them in Turkey. That makes us look like we cant wait to get started. Infact we look like fools. If I was in charge someones ass I would want. And I dont care if it's the President him self. Talk about a moral buster. We better get our shit togeather. Stupid things cost soldiers there lives
that`s why i`m leary
that`s why i`m leary
about us going in....occupation will make the israeli/palestinian situation look like a walk in the park.....
but,then again,why not wait until he slips some of the unaccounted for 800 liters of anthrax to some terrorist organization with like minded hatred of the u.s. and our allies......we all saw what a few well placed anthrax letters did to paralyze and terrorize the country....or just get one suicide maniac infected with small pox to ride a few airline flights to say n.y.,l.a., and washington.....that`ll get the party started.....
that`s why i`m leary
about us going in....occupation will make the israeli/palestinian situation look like a walk in the park.....
but,then again,why not wait until he slips some of the unaccounted for 800 liters of anthrax to some terrorist organization with like minded hatred of the u.s. and our allies......we all saw what a few well placed anthrax letters did to paralyze and terrorize the country....or just get one suicide maniac infected with small pox to ride a few airline flights to say n.y.,l.a., and washington.....that`ll get the party started.....
Ferdville, your two questions are good ones. I do not have the answer. But I am not the leader of the free world. I like to think that the people you mention would have a better answer than Blow the MF's up.
That is the problem I have with them. They are not trying for peace. They are trying to talk the rest of the world into agreeing with this war.
When we vote leaders into office these are suppose to be extrodinary men. I just don't see it from any one of them.
The UN is a lot like democracy. It stinks but there isn't a better system out there. I don't think we should be trashing it because the vote wasn't going our way.
If we got the votes and France vetoed it that would be one thing. But we didn't even get the votes. Bush, Powell, Chaney, Rumsfield and Rice have all failed miserablely in this.
That is the problem I have with them. They are not trying for peace. They are trying to talk the rest of the world into agreeing with this war.
When we vote leaders into office these are suppose to be extrodinary men. I just don't see it from any one of them.
The UN is a lot like democracy. It stinks but there isn't a better system out there. I don't think we should be trashing it because the vote wasn't going our way.
If we got the votes and France vetoed it that would be one thing. But we didn't even get the votes. Bush, Powell, Chaney, Rumsfield and Rice have all failed miserablely in this.
StevieD diplomacy is not a strong point of our government at this time. Heavy hands and hammers are there way. Chaney has always been that way. He is the type that play my way or I will take by ball and go home. A spolied brat as we use to say.
For Rumsfield the word cocky is not strong enough. And these boys took Mr Bush and shaped him as they want him. Not that he was not cocky himself. And I think to be Presideant you have to be alittle cocky. But they got him going over the top. I wish when they talked about this mess they would just stepback and think what there saying. There talking about war not pieace. There talking the possiabilty that many of our troops can be killed in this action. This is not the time to look cocky. And dam near the whole world is just getting stronger against us becasue of there cockyness. They need leassons in diplomacy. Colin Powell has that but Rumsfield and Chaney got him to change his ways. It was there way or the highway. Well they better work hard this weekend on saving T Blairs butt.
War starts about March 22nd. These talks are not about how to have pieace.
For Rumsfield the word cocky is not strong enough. And these boys took Mr Bush and shaped him as they want him. Not that he was not cocky himself. And I think to be Presideant you have to be alittle cocky. But they got him going over the top. I wish when they talked about this mess they would just stepback and think what there saying. There talking about war not pieace. There talking the possiabilty that many of our troops can be killed in this action. This is not the time to look cocky. And dam near the whole world is just getting stronger against us becasue of there cockyness. They need leassons in diplomacy. Colin Powell has that but Rumsfield and Chaney got him to change his ways. It was there way or the highway. Well they better work hard this weekend on saving T Blairs butt.
War starts about March 22nd. These talks are not about how to have pieace.
