Do we have any Atheists or Agnostics here?

BobbyBlueChip

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by the way i assume you are referring to me - thanx for the kind words -how did you know i have a masters in international business (LATIN BIAS) fluent in 2 languages - KIND OF NUTS- MULTIPLE BIZ's ALL OPEN MORE THAN 13 YEARS. but hey what do i know

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I say let those who are not menacing the rest of us believe what they want to believe. There are good folks on both teams, and I am glad to know, love and respect members on either side of the fence:toast:

Well said! And I am perfectly OK with that.
 

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I don't even know why I'm choosing to chime in on all of this... but this thread certainly has "opened my eyes" on how certain individuals think around here (not intended to be a personal jab at anyone)
My question to the "bible thumpers" is....
So God is OK with your "gambling endeavors"? I thought gambling was forbidden to the all holy clan? Apparently its OK if you contribute a healthy sum to the "offering" each church session?
I was brought up "believing" but there is so much far fetched shit in the bible, how can anyone but a simple minded person believe it?
Parting of the red sea? Gimme a break :facepalm:

If your asking about sin-i do plenty of it - and always will- as far as gambling i file taxes on my winnings every year-alot of the things in the Bible can be out of line depending on what you believe- as far as giving i give 20-30% of my income to many charities including church -its all about what you believe i could say what you say is crap but i wont because you have right to believe what you want so do i-
 

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If your asking about sin-i do plenty of it - and always will- as far as gambling i file taxes on my winnings every year-alot of the things in the Bible can be out of line depending on what you believe- as far as giving i give 20-30% of my income to many charities including church -its all about what you believe i could say what you say is crap but i wont because you have right to believe what you want so do i-

Fair enough Thunder. I'm not looking for a pissing match either. I WILL believe what I want to believe AND I don't have a problem with what you choose to believe.
 

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Fair enough Thunder. I'm not looking for a pissing match either. I WILL believe what I want to believe AND I don't have a problem with what you choose to believe.

i know your not your being civil and you have valid questions -
 

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I don't have a problem with anything that anyone believes. Just don't go pushing your stuff on me......that's when I get fired up. Religion is a very personal thing. What you believe is what you believe. Nobody has the right to tell you otherwise.....and nobody has the right to make you feel shitty for believing what you believe.
 

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reading thru this shit here's my conclusion some believe some dont so:mj11: sums it up:0008
 

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"I don't have a problem with anything that anyone believes. Just don't go pushing your stuff on me"


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tHEN I DIE THE SAME WAY YOU DO -DONT I

One ends up wasting a good portion of their life and one doesn't. You can't discount it. It isn't an oh well type of thing. What a collasal waste waste of time and life if you are wrong or if you were trained to love the wrong deity.
 

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I don't have a problem with anything that anyone believes. Just don't go pushing your stuff on me......that's when I get fired up. Religion is a very personal thing. What you believe is what you believe. Nobody has the right to tell you otherwise.....and nobody has the right to make you feel shitty for believing what you believe.

I couldn't have said it any better :0074
 

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My mom called asked if I wanted to go to church with her tomorrow :scared :scared last time I went to church was 1985:SIB
 

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According to the bible, it is my understanding that God is no respecter of persons. Makes no difference who you are...ruler of an earthly kingdom, MLB home run king or Cincinnati attorney. It also makes no difference what you've done...recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize or risked your life in a burning building to rescue a basket full of babies. Makes not one bit of difference. It is a non-factor. The bible says, "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God."

According to scripture, the issue is sin. God hates it.

I truly believe the Hebrews had it right...THE ISSUE IS SIN IN THE SIGHT OF A HOLY GOD.

If God hates sin and is no respecter of persons, then it only stands to reason we are all deserving of hell and there is nothing anyone can do or say to rectify the situation.

As much as God hates sin, He still loves the sinner and it is His will than none should perish.

I think this is the reason for the most popular verse in the bible....John 3:16 ~

" For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

According to the above verse, God offers mankind a solution to his terrifying predicament....."he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him...."

This is God's means of salvation.

His Son.

Jesus Christ The Righteous.

So I want to go to heaven when I die. Heaven is God's home.

But there's a problem. God has a standard.

He doesn't allow just anyone to enter His home just as I won't allow just anyone to enter mine.

Evidently, there is a condition....

God wants to know one thing and one thing only...have you accepted His son as your redeemer?

Jesus is the means of salvation. Accepting Jesus as one's Lord and Savior is the only means of entrance into heaven.

John 14:6 ~ "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Living a good life won't get us into heaven. We can never be good enough. We need the imputed righteousness of one who lived a spotless, sinless life...

Blessed be the name of Jesus.
 

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One ends up wasting a good portion of their life and one doesn't. You can't discount it. It isn't an oh well type of thing. What a collasal waste waste of time and life if you are wrong or if you were trained to love the wrong deity.

now thats tolerance- that waste of time goes both ways-your right it cant be discounted
 

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I don't have a problem with anything that anyone believes. Just don't go pushing your stuff on me......that's when I get fired up. Religion is a very personal thing. What you believe is what you believe. Nobody has the right to tell you otherwise.....and nobody has the right to make you feel shitty for believing what you believe.

i agree so if some one mocks and laughs at your spiritual beliefs -are not they pushing there views on you -
 

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"We need the imputed righteousness of one who lived a spotless, sinless life..."

That should account for about 0.00001% of the worlds population... don't you think?
 
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