Smoking has been ban almost nation wide in the work place, restaurants, bars, and now I read even patios. My question: Smoking has been proved to be very bad for your health and Lawyers have won millions of dollars for States and individuals from smoking deaths and health problems. The government has sued to get in on the action too. Why does the government even allow for cigarettes to be sold in America? They did away with coke, heroin and grass what is holding them up for banning cigarettes forever and making it a law? I smoked for 40 years and quit 6 years ago. Could it be all the Tax dollars they are making? I'm going to the barber shop and will be back at 7pm. I hope to see some answers...
do you have an answer?
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I have never smoked but I can only see dollar signs as the reason for this. While tobacco pays or tries to stop young people from starting in the US, overseas like in China, they push it big time. By outlawing it, these big money making companies would have to move out of the country, many jobs lost, tobacco farms wiped out. Many places because of terrain can only grow tobacco. The gov't can make tax money and sue so they win both ways. I'm also against most of these bans, especially in bars. It should be up to the owner of each establishment to have smoking or non-smoking bars. Then the patron can decide to go there or somewhere else. Many bars here in New York sales are down, at least in my area of upstate NY. If I was an owner, I would be furious with the Gov't telling me after all these years, now you can't allow this anymore. Your sales drop and the value of your business drops as your sales and profits decline. I can understand banning at work, but bartenders and waitresses would need to find different jobs if smoking is truly offensive to them, not that this matters anymore since it is banned. Just my 2 cents.
Bars havn't lost any money or customers here in California since they banned smoking a few years back. That is a scare tactic.....Smokers can still go outside or to a designated area to smoke if they chose.
Bullshit I am a smoker and do frequent bars. Here in Georgia certain counties and cities prohibit smoking in them. I don't go to those bars. So it is not just a scare tactic.
Very upscale private country club here called Crooked Stick banned smoking on the golf course period. It is where Daly won the PGA about 15 years ago. Now how can they ban smoking outside that is just dumb. But the majority of the membership voted it through. If I was a member there and they told me I couldnt smoke I would definately want my 50,000 back.
Being a business owner myself and talking with others who are in the bar business, I have heard a consistent "Sales are down about 15-20 percent". Also have a friend who had a smoke free bar before all this, his are down now too because that crowd can go anywhere. It is a smaller group and is not covering the loss of smokers though.
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I have two friends that own bars in cities that have banned smoking. Both have taken huge hits on theit bottom line.
I don't see how this can be labeled as a scare tactic. Were there more people sitting at home that wanted to go to bars but don't like smoke, or are there more people that are addicted to nicotine and won't go to bars now because they can't smoke?
I would think that making a legal substance illegal inside your private business would be unconstitutional. I don't believe we have heard the last of this issue.
Lexington, KY (University of Kentucky) banned smoking in bars which surprised me, but they have since reversed it due to the drop in revenues in all restaurants (not just bars).
I don't see how this can be labeled as a scare tactic. Were there more people sitting at home that wanted to go to bars but don't like smoke, or are there more people that are addicted to nicotine and won't go to bars now because they can't smoke?
I would think that making a legal substance illegal inside your private business would be unconstitutional. I don't believe we have heard the last of this issue.
Lexington, KY (University of Kentucky) banned smoking in bars which surprised me, but they have since reversed it due to the drop in revenues in all restaurants (not just bars).
My personal thoughts are this. ALL baby boomer's grew up around smokers. They are millions of us baby boomer's, Cancer has not gone down because of the smoking laws and neither has medical costs. Attorneys and the people who sued the tobacco companies did so because of money only. People who say second hand smoke kills should look only at the baby boomer's(50 years old to 60) these people breathed in smoke everyday. The tobacco companies didn't fight for their business or rights and let the courts decide their future and many business future and I think they got screwed!! I am not a smoker but I am a person who believes in personal freedom.....Everyone thinks that ONLY non-smokers has rights!!
I agree with you David. I smoke but do not smoke around people that do not smoke as a courtesy with exceptions of outdoors.
I would say tax revenue is big reason not to make it illegal--and added to that where would you draw the line as obesety causes more risk and greater death factor--will they ban all you can eat buffets--I'm looking for that to be next step on lawsuits.
---and if you get to extemes you can look at all variables on preventable diseases. They use to quarrentine people with communicable diseases years ago--now you have same activist judges that ban smoking for health reasons, making rules that promote spreading of aids---go figure!!!!!!!!
--the only thing that makes less sense is those that spread aids carrying protest signs that say "Stop Aids"----
I would say tax revenue is big reason not to make it illegal--and added to that where would you draw the line as obesety causes more risk and greater death factor--will they ban all you can eat buffets--I'm looking for that to be next step on lawsuits.
---and if you get to extemes you can look at all variables on preventable diseases. They use to quarrentine people with communicable diseases years ago--now you have same activist judges that ban smoking for health reasons, making rules that promote spreading of aids---go figure!!!!!!!!
--the only thing that makes less sense is those that spread aids carrying protest signs that say "Stop Aids"----
I think people are always looking for someone else to blame instead of tacking responsibility for themselves. Smoking, eating too much, whatever, it is always someone elses fault that they are like they are or in the situation they are in. If you choose to smoke or eat to much, that is your chloice, not McDonalds or Phillip Morris's fault. We all know the risks, if I have a cigar, it is my choice and I will deal with any unfortunate side-effects. I have nobody but myself to blame if I make these choices.
