Does anyone else find it strange...

[Jord20]

...that Bama was 10 point faves AT LSU. Now they are only 13 point faves at home vs the Aggies!??!

Think about that. LSU home field is supposedly worth 4-5 points (normal is 3). That means Bama was 14-15 points better than LSU in the books' minds. Now Bama at home (say 3 point advantage) is only laying 13.

I know it's all situational, and Bama coming off the huge win is in a bit of a letdown spot... but

Bama > LSU by 15
Bama > A&M by 10

:shrug: :shrug:

 

[TLankford]

Definitely a let down spot. and I honestly think at least ATM O vs. Bama D is a better matchup then LSU O vs. Bama D. Bama should be able to score pretty much at will I'd like to think.

Will be looking hard at the Over when totals come out

 

[taker02000]

Probably because A&M is a better team than LSU now...I know LSU beat them earlier but A&M is better now

 

[layinwood]

Probably because A&M is a better team than LSU now...I know LSU beat them earlier but A&M is better now

No, they're not better now(better than LSU that is). They just have been playing bad defensive teams and it's made their offense look good. So far they've played two teams with good defenses. They played both of them at home and look at what happened to the offense.

The hangover effect is the only thing keeping this line as close as it is.

 

[hedman]

Johhny Football and I agree A&M is a better team than LSU.

 

[azbob]

I think Bama closed at -8 versus LSU so -13 seems about right.

 

[Cie]

Heard this today on radio. Lsu's 435 yards were the most allowed by bama since 2007.

 

[Cie]

A bit of a letdown spot?? Bama just won from behind in their biggest game of the season. The qb was in tears post game. Saban smiled for the 3rd time this decade. Bama is in a major letdown spot. Plus, do not have quickness of Lsu or fla up front to contain manziel.

If Aggies dont lose turnover battle, they keep it within the.number imo

 

[hedman]

A bit of a letdown spot?? Bama just won from behind in their biggest game of the season. The qb was in tears post game. Saban smiled for the 3rd time this decade. Bama is in a major letdown spot. Plus, do not have quickness of Lsu or fla up front to contain manziel.

If Aggies dont lose turnover battle, they keep it within the.number imo

:0008

 

[TLankford]

Plus, do not have quickness of Lsu or fla up front to contain manziel.

If Aggies dont lose turnover battle, they keep it within the.number imo

Had me until this line. Would like for something backup up this statement. Bama's front 7 is as fast as anyone in the SEC. LBs are the fastest IMO.

Agree with last sentence though

 

[Cie]

Had me until this line. Would like for something backup up this statement. Bama's front 7 is as fast as anyone in the SEC. LBs are the fastest IMO.

Agree with last sentence though

i cannot recall who discussed this point last week on espn, or maybe nbc radio, but they explained how fla and lsu def front are better prepared in terms of personnel than anyone else in the league for keeping manziel in check. i found the piece very interesting and immediately started to think about this being a great spot for aTm. the manner in which the lsu bama game unfolded is what pushed me over the edge on this play.

that aside, i know very little about football from a coaching perspective, but has been my understanding that 3-4 Mlbs are bigger since they typically need to defeat more blocks than 4-3 counterparts.

Also, LSU has immense footspeed at DL with mingo and montgomery outside, plus logan and freak johnson at DT. logan is not a burly DT, rather a lean mobile one. Freak is called freak because he moves so well at 310. plus, lsu typically rotates more guys in at DL than most, which keeps them running better throughout the game.

 

[TLankford]

I can't think of a mobile QB that has done well against Bama with Saban there. He put the reigns on Cam and Tebow. Only two off the top of my head that were racking up that much both air and ground.

Outside LBs in Saban's 3-4 are always as fast as the other teams RBs. Also always the best disciplined defense in the country. I'll probably be looking at the Under in this game. If I had to play a side it'd be ATM just because their O is better than most that Bama has played and 16 is a lot of points

 

[Cie]

good point. the key to attack saban's 4-3 defense at lsu years ago was a mobile qb, but the 3-4 has helped resolve this. one way that a mobile qb can attack a 3-4 is if the NT and DEs do not form a ''wall'', as cut back lanes are then created. From what i have read, this is something that bama focuses on when playing mobile qbs.

lsu cracked 435 yards vs the tide this year and 5 years ago. No teams had done so in between, which is an indication of how great the bama defense we have seen these past few yeas has been. Tebow and Cam-led offenses were always held in relative check, and rarely does that defensive unit have a bad week.

I think this will be a great matchup of offense vs defense, with bama's awesome OL paving the way to victory. This should be a great viewing game. i'll be on the dog for sure.

 

[Jord20]

Thanks for the input!!!

Anyhow, my point was that I thought the line was low, and I will be taking the 14 (hopefully). I saw my first A&M game of the year this weekend, and I LOVE me some Johnny Football!!

 

[layinwood]

I'm not sure outside of the letdown factor why anyone thinks the Aggie offense will do anything in this game. They've played two good teams so far and managed only 17 and 19 points against those teams. Given the fact that they were at home you have to figure those numbers might have been lower on the road. Bama didn't look great last week AT LSU but still only gave up 17points. If Bama shows up from the get go they stifle this Aggie O. That's a big if though after last week.

I think Bama's D is perfect to against a QB like Manziel because of how disciplined they are. Manziel beats teams because they make mistakes. Bama is good enough at every position that each teammate trust the other and they don't have to try and make up for the "lesser" players. A&M may beat Bama on a few long passes but I don't think they can drive the ball down the field enough to score more than 17.

 

[the addict]

Right, wrong, or neither,

I will never go against bama while saban is there....

I have lost going against them more then any other team....haven't went against this year with the exception of lsu last week....not trying my luck twice...


Gl either way fellas

 

[TLankford]

56.5 is a high total for a Bama game in Tuscaloosa. Tide is going to run the hell out of the ball and control the clock and keep Johnny on the sidelines getting hazed by the student section. They are great at the dink and dunk sustained drives that eat so much clock. I'm with Layinwood that ATM O is overrated based on level of competition. I don't see ATM getting over 17 and don't see Bama getting over 31ish unless there are some turnovers or Lacy/Yeldon abuse the spin move.

Will be looking hard at Under and team totals if/when I play this game

 

[TLankford]

For what it's worth, just going by current total + current line, the ATM TT should be around 21.5. I would love to see that number to pound the Under

 

[Cie]

I'm not sure outside of the letdown factor why anyone thinks the Aggie offense will do anything in this game. They've played two good teams so far and managed only 17 and 19 points against those teams. Given the fact that they were at home you have to figure those numbers might have been lower on the road. Bama didn't look great last week AT LSU but still only gave up 17points. If Bama shows up from the get go they stifle this Aggie O. That's a big if though after last week.

I think Bama's D is perfect to against a QB like Manziel because of how disciplined they are. Manziel beats teams because they make mistakes. Bama is good enough at every position that each teammate trust the other and they don't have to try and make up for the "lesser" players. A&M may beat Bama on a few long passes but I don't think they can drive the ball down the field enough to score more than 17.

to your point, aggies did nothing on fla after the gators adjusted at halftime, and scored a garbage time td vs lsu to reach 19 at home.

 

[ejthree]

Do not know if A$M will win , cover, or get blown out but I do feel they are here to stay and will be a thorn in Bama and LSU's side for a long time to come...