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Trampled Underfoot said:
To be honest, it sounds like you have fucked quite a few dogs. As you said, it's all the same with the lights out. :mj07: :mj07:

At least you admit that you have to turn the lights out when finding someone to fuck you before they rob you.
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hedgehog said:
since there is no definition of marriage, whats to say you can't marry your dog so they can get benefits and inheritance or marry a woman and a man, or have 7 wives, it opens pandora's box ;)
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that's a cute argument for a 2nd grader
 
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No definition of marriage

polygamy is on the table now :shrug:

someone may want to marry a woman and a man, why not?

its a slippery slope to say the least
 
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hedgehog said:
No definition of marriage

polygamy is on the table now :shrug:

someone may want to marry a woman and a man, why not?

its a slippery slope to say the least
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Laws change to fit the needs of its citizens. There have always been gay people. They were marginalized or misunderstood in the western world until basically the end of the 20th century.
With access to more education, more wealth, changing attitudes towards sexuality, and better forms of communication, existing gay people were able to find each other and form communities. They banded together to fight for rights they had always been denied. They organized, worked hard, got the word out etc. They protested, got killed, got spit on, got beaten, and finally started to get respect. Because, they didn't go away.

They won the hearts and minds of an increasing portion of the population.

Regarding the slippery slope towards imminent dog/human marriages: where is the community that wants that? Will they be willing to band together, struggle, win over those different from them? Where is the historical record of human/dog relationships and romance? I just set that aside as ridiculous.

As for polygyny. Same thing. Worry about it when there is actually a large portion of Americans who embrace that lifestyle. The government of a country exists for the people, and the laws ought to reflect what works for the people that live within it.

That?s what just happened Wednesday.
 
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Mr. Poon said:
I need to look into this further. Honestly didn't give it much thought at first, as I thought it was progress and the right thing. However, had a lawyer friend today go off about the decision. Not for the result, he is against DOMA, but because he believes this decision is the worst by the Supreme Court since the ruling in the 40's upholding the confinement of Japanese Americans. He said the law should be repealed through congress, especially considering the justice department wasn't enforcing the law in the first place, and not by the Supreme Court overturning it.
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DOMA is best repealed on legal grounds by the high court, if you hoping for this "progress" to be firm, as it is based on the most solid hundreds of years of common law precidents concerning equal treatment of equals.

Any political solution thru congress would just be a contemporary bandaid - liable to change according to whims of electoral expedience and changeable "science" definition of what is equal.
 
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ImFeklhr said:
Laws change to fit the needs of its citizens. There have always been gay people. They were marginalized or misunderstood in the western world until basically the end of the 20th century.
With access to more education, more wealth, changing attitudes towards sexuality, and better forms of communication, existing gay people were able to find each other and form communities. They banded together to fight for rights they had always been denied. They organized, worked hard, got the word out etc. They protested, got killed, got spit on, got beaten, and finally started to get respect. Because, they didn't go away.

They won the hearts and minds of an increasing portion of the population.

Regarding the slippery slope towards imminent dog/human marriages: where is the community that wants that? Will they be willing to band together, struggle, win over those different from them? Where is the historical record of human/dog relationships and romance? I just set that aside as ridiculous.

As for polygyny. Same thing. Worry about it when there is actually a large portion of Americans who embrace that lifestyle. The government of a country exists for the people, and the laws ought to reflect what works for the people that live within it.

That?s what just happened Wednesday.
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Well said. Besides, there isn't anything in the constitution about animals anyway so it is a silly talking point to begin with.
 
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ImFeklhr said:
Laws change to fit the needs of its citizens. There have always been gay people. They were marginalized or misunderstood in the western world until basically the end of the 20th century.
With access to more education, more wealth, changing attitudes towards sexuality, and better forms of communication, existing gay people were able to find each other and form communities. They banded together to fight for rights they had always been denied. They organized, worked hard, got the word out etc. They protested, got killed, got spit on, got beaten, and finally started to get respect. Because, they didn't go away.

They won the hearts and minds of an increasing portion of the population.

Regarding the slippery slope towards imminent dog/human marriages: where is the community that wants that? Will they be willing to band together, struggle, win over those different from them? Where is the historical record of human/dog relationships and romance? I just set that aside as ridiculous.

As for polygyny. Same thing. Worry about it when there is actually a large portion of Americans who embrace that lifestyle. The government of a country exists for the people, and the laws ought to reflect what works for the people that live within it.

That?s what just happened Wednesday.
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I can't wait for the first gay divorce :0002 I wonder who gets the biological kids :shrug: this country is fucked up, I can't believe its perfectly legal in some states to marry someone of the same sex:facepalm: progressives make me sick

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hedgehog said:
I can't wait for the first gay divorce :0002 I wonder who gets the biological kids :shrug: this country is fucked up, I can't believe its perfectly legal in some states to marry someone of the same sex:facepalm: progressives make me sick

:sadwave:
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They already have had divorces you fucking halfwit. You assume the mother should get the kids in a hetero marriage? I have joint custody... 2 weeks with me then 2 weeks with her.
 
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hedgehog said:
I can't wait for the first gay divorce :0002 I wonder who gets the biological kids :shrug: this country is fucked up, I can't believe its perfectly legal in some states to marry someone of the same sex:facepalm: progressives make me sick

:sadwave:
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You better watch it, fat boy. You have some real bottom feeders with weak morals sticking up for you. A few more of these statements and even they could turn on you. They might even pile on.
 
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ImFeklhr said:
Laws change to fit the needs of its citizens. There have always been gay people. They were marginalized or misunderstood in the western world until basically the end of the 20th century.
With access to more education, more wealth, changing attitudes towards sexuality, and better forms of communication, existing gay people were able to find each other and form communities. They banded together to fight for rights they had always been denied. They organized, worked hard, got the word out etc. They protested, got killed, got spit on, got beaten, and finally started to get respect. Because, they didn't go away.

They won the hearts and minds of an increasing portion of the population.

Regarding the slippery slope towards imminent dog/human marriages: where is the community that wants that? Will they be willing to band together, struggle, win over those different from them? Where is the historical record of human/dog relationships and romance? I just set that aside as ridiculous.

As for polygyny. Same thing. Worry about it when there is actually a large portion of Americans who embrace that lifestyle. The government of a country exists for the people, and the laws ought to reflect what works for the people that live within it.

That?s what just happened Wednesday.
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I agree with you for most part brother Fek....but would like clarification on last paragraph.

The will of the people was voted on in proposition in CA and over turned by one judge
..the ruling Wednesday was not by the people but by a majority 5 to 4 vote
..again one person determined "the will of the people"

My view is no reflection on the DOMA issue but rather the fact that 2 judges opinions (one in CA and 5 to 4 decision Wed) can trump "we the people" on any issue.
..that's scarey.

...and while I would voted with the 4 dissenting views I'd like to offer my congrats to you. :0008
 
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