Don't Mess with Texas

StevieD

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Wilson, I don't care about getting free health insurance. I will be just fine, or as fine as most people, whether anything changes or not. I will have to make choices, just like anyone else. My point is, I think we have to reform the way things are being done now, to try to help control health care costs for everyone. How to do it, I'm not sure. But I am sure that if we don't try to reign in the people who are sticking it to us and making billions of dollars in the process, and raising our costs every day, then eventually nobody WILL be able to afford it, or at least not the average, or even above average income earner.

I'm not asking for a handout, for myself or anyone. I'm asking for people to talk about this, and try to come up with some sensible answers. Doing nothing is not a sensible answer, I don't think. It's certainly EASIER, but not sensible.

Chad, they have succeeded in turning the argument from outragous health care costs to this rich vs poor bull crap and now Obama is trying to push National Health Care on us.

First thing that should be done is these health care costs have to get under control. Insurance, hospitals, doctors, their charges have to get under control They are bleeding the country like the oil companies bled us.

I really don't know how much of this bleeding we can take. Everyone has their hand out. And then there is the poor.
 

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I don't like freeloaders, everyone should pull their weight, survival of the fittest. I have never given a bum money, I don't give one penny to charity, except to the SPCA since animals can't work, this is what I believe, work, work, work, quit bitching and buy your own insurance


Animals don't need money, they been here along time before man and will be here along time after man is gone.


Why should anyone who gets sick have their home taken from them?
 
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Animals don't need money, they been here along time before man and will be here along time after man is gone.


Why should anyone who gets sick have their home taken from them?

animals need money more than the bum on the street that can work:shrug: people can help themselves, animals are reliant on people to help them
 

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animals need money more than the bum on the street that can work:shrug: people can help themselves, animals are reliant on people to help them

In fact, many times the "bum "on the street cannot work. It is not an easy lifestyle these people have "chosen."

Many of them have severe mental problems and it is a sickening shame that America turns it back on these people while we destroy and rebuild Iraq.
 

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don't forget the MILLIONS we send to all these foreign countries. why don't we take care of our own first? blows my mind.
 

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I don't like freeloaders, everyone should pull their weight, survival of the fittest. I have never given a bum money, I don't give one penny to charity, except to the SPCA since animals can't work, this is what I believe, work, work, work, quit bitching and buy your own insurance

Yeah we should send those little kids with Muscular Dystrophy to the work camps so they can pay for the nice wheelchairs they use. We should all stop giving to charities and tell the scientists and medical eexperts to quit research on disease and medicine. Seems like the SMART thing to do.
 

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animals need money more than the bum on the street that can work:shrug: people can help themselves, animals are reliant on people to help them

That's because your pets are held hostage, you at lease owe them a meal.
 

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In fact, many times the "bum "on the street cannot work. It is not an easy lifestyle these people have "chosen."

Many of them have severe mental problems and it is a sickening shame that America turns it back on these people while we destroy and rebuild Iraq.

a person is a bum on the street because they either have alcohol or drug problems or both, why should I enable them to buy more when they need to get sober and be productive citizens, get help and go to work
 

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Yeah we should send those little kids with Muscular Dystrophy to the work camps so they can pay for the nice wheelchairs they use. We should all stop giving to charities and tell the scientists and medical eexperts to quit research on disease and medicine. Seems like the SMART thing to do.

I do feel sorry for the Muscular Dystrophy kids
 

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a person is a bum on the street because they either have alcohol or drug problems or both, why should I enable them to buy more when they need to get sober and be productive citizens, get help and go to work

Why do you think they have alcohol and drug problems? Most of these people suffer from severe anxiety and depression discorders. It is easy for you to sit back and say they should get help while your boy Ronnie Reagan shut down all the programs that were helping them.
 

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A big F-U to Obamacare, Hopefully more and more states will rise up against this administration and their Communist policies
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Perry raises possibility of states' rights showdown with White House over healthcare

AUSTIN ? Gov. Rick Perry, raising the specter of a showdown with the Obama administration, suggested Thursday that he would consider invoking states? rights protections under the 10th Amendment to resist the president?s healthcare plan, which he said would be "disastrous" for Texas.

Interviewed by conservative talk show host Mark Davis of Dallas? WBAP/820 AM, Perry said his first hope is that Congress will defeat the plan, which both Perry and Davis described as "Obama Care." But should it pass, Perry predicted that Texas and a "number" of states might resist the federal health mandate.

"I think you?ll hear states and governors standing up and saying 'no? to this type of encroachment on the states with their healthcare," Perry said. "So my hope is that we never have to have that stand-up. But I?m certainly willing and ready for the fight if this administration continues to try to force their very expansive government philosophy down our collective throats."

Perry, the state?s longest-serving governor, has made defiance of Washington a hallmark of his state administration as well as his emerging re-election campaign against U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison in the 2010 Republican primary. Earlier this year, Perry refused $555 million in federal unemployment stimulus money, saying it would subject Texas to long-term costs after the federal dollars ended.

Interviewed after returning from a trip to Iraq and Afghanistan, Perry spoke out against President Barack Obama?s healthcare package less than 24 hours after the president used a prime-time news conference Wednesday night to try to sell the massive legislative package to Congress and the public.

'Not the solution?

"It really is a state issue, and if there was ever an argument for the 10th Amendment and for letting the states find a solution to their problems, this may be at the top of the class," Perry said. "A government-run healthcare system is financially unstable. It?s not the solution."

Perry heartily backed an unsuccessful resolution in this year?s legislative session that would have affirmed the belief that Texas has sovereignty under the 10th Amendment over all powers not otherwise granted to the federal government.

In expressing "unwavering support" for the 10th Amendment resolution by state Rep. Brandon Creighton, R-Conroe, Perry said "federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens and its interference with the affairs of our state."

Returning to the "letter and spirit" of the 10th Amendment, he said in April, "will free our state from undue regulations and ultimately strengthen our union."

Perry, in his on-air interview Thursday with Davis, did not specify how he might use the 10th Amendment in opposing the Obama health plan. His spokeswoman, Allison Castle, said that the governor?s first goal is to defeat the plan in Congress and that any discussion of options beyond that would be "hypothetical."

"I don?t think it?s surprising that the governor is taking a stand against it," said Anne Dunkelberg, associate director of the Center for Public Policy Priorities, an Austin-based research organization that supports the House version of Obama?s plan. "Unfortunately, the national dialogue on health reform has been extraordinarily partisan and polarized."

The White House Media Affairs Office, asked to comment on Perry?s statements, did not have an immediate response. In his remarks to the nation Wednesday, Obama restated his midsummer deadline for passage of the bill in Congress, saying it is urgently needed to help families "that are being clobbered by healthcare costs."

High stakes in Texas

Texas has a higher percentage of uninsured people than any other state, with 1 in 4 Texans lacking health coverage. Dunkelberg, whose organization supports policies to help low- and modest-income Texans, said the House version would create a "predictable and comprehensive benefits package" for thousands of struggling middle-income Texans.

Former Rep. Arlene Wohlgemuth of Burleson, a senior fellow for healthcare at the conservative Texas Public Policy Foundation, echoed Perry?s assertion that the Obama plan is the wrong approach and could have disastrous financial consequences for Texas.

Under the Senate version of the bill, she said, an expansion of the joint federal-state Medicaid program for the poor could cost Texas $4 billion a year.

"There are good solutions" to the country?s healthcare problems, Wohlgemuth said. "This isn?t it."

Perry said the plan is another example of the Obama administration?s "massive takeover of the private-sector economy."

"I hope our leaders will look for solutions that don?t dig our country further into debt," he said.

Perry called on Texans in the House and Senate to oppose the plan. "I can?t imagine that anyone from Texas who cares about this state would vote for Obama Care. I don?t care whether you?re Democrat or Republican," he said.

Of those Texans who might consider supporting the plan, he said: "This may sound a little bit harsh, but they might ought to consider representing some other state because they?re sure not representing Texas."

Wow, our govt is already to the 10th amendment in the 'taketh away policy".... I know we lost most of the top 10 already... completely and partially.... Freedom of speech was a biggy... next will be no firearms EXCEPT for police, n govt peeps and military... no exceptions...

Shit, Im talking again... I wanted to get into the healthcare distraction thingy... n we havent heard much about N. Korea lately... hmmm... or the Big IRAN problem.... pay attention to what is going on on the 8th page of the newspaper or the 6th page... the little paragraph that might read, "N. Korea's nuclear rocket falls way short of Hawaii; no need to worry"... or some other crazy thing while the front page has BEER SUMMIT day 2; the hangover....
 

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Why do you think they have alcohol and drug problems? Most of these people suffer from severe anxiety and depression discorders. It is easy for you to sit back and say they should get help while your boy Ronnie Reagan shut down all the programs that were helping them.

:00hour Ronald Reagan the best President we have ever had
 
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