'Draft Hillary' push will launch in Nashville

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this should make some people happy....

By BONNA de la CRUZ
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A movement to draft Hillary Rodham Clinton to run for president aims to prove Democrats can win in Southern states, and that's why they're launching their national campaign in Nashville later this month.

The group, called Hillarynow.com, thinks she can appeal to the country-music and NASCAR-loving crowd associated with Southern towns such as Nashville, said Bob Kunst, the Miami Beach-based organizer.

"The whole point is to go where we're not expected," Kunst said.

The national kickoff will be a May 23 fundraiser for Hillarynow.com at a Germantown coffee shop, Enchanted Gingerbread. About 200 Tennesseans are expected to attend, Kunst said.

Hillarynow.com bills itself as the oldest and most active organization in support of her presidency. Another group, votehillary.org, is based in Chester, Va.

Hillarynow.com has raised about $35,000 and has between 10,000 and 15,000 people who have signed up online to support Clinton as the nation's first woman president, Kunst said.

The group ran four "Draft Hillary" television ads in the fall in New Hampshire, which has the first presidential primary, and in Kentucky in December when Clinton spoke there, Kunst said.

Because media attention and fundraising dollars come easily to Clinton, who has been labeled an early frontrunner, it may be difficult to understand why she needs a draft effort, Kunst said.

But, he explained, "She's a Washington figure. She needs the energy of a grass-roots campaign."

The Nashville event will be the first of several fundraisers throughout the country and the kickoff to the group's organizing efforts to sign up supporters to volunteer for a national campaign to draft Clinton, Kunst said.

The chairman of the Tennessee Democratic Party is not sure Tennesseans will warm to Clinton right away.

"I think she would have difficulty right now simply because she has been characterized by the other side as too liberal for most Tennesseans," Bob Tuke said.

"At this point, it would be tough for her. However, she has been working through press releases, legislation, positions and testimony before the Senate to demonstrate that she is more moderate than most people think she is."

Two Nashville bakers, the gingerbread maker at Enchanted Gingerbread and another who specializes in biscotti and other Italian sweets, are contributing their culinary skills to raise money for the movement.

"She's my idol, and I'm looking for a change," said Anna Lia Notardonato-Hicks of Goodlettsville, who runs an Internet-order Italian bakery, Tutto Bene (tuttobenecentral.com).

Notardonato-Hicks usually uses butter when baking from old family recipes.

But when she whips up Clinton's chocolate-chip cookies, she uses Crisco ? usually banned from her kitchen ? because that's how Clinton makes them.

"It's a really nice cookie," said Notardonato-Hicks, who prides herself in using only natural ingredients. "For Hillary, I have Crisco in my kitchen."

The cookie recipe became famous as part of a presidential wives' bake-off between Clinton and Barbara Bush in 1992 and Elizabeth Dole in 1996.

Clinton also famously referenced baked goods when she defended her law practice and business dealings: "I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was to fulfill my profession, which I entered before my husband was in public life."

E. Gayle O'Hanlon, 47, president of Enchanted Gingerbread, is baking red, white and blue gingerbread cookies for the cause. "Gingerbread is traditional and all-American," O'Hanlon said.

The chocolate chip and gingerbread cookies are for sale at Hillarynow.com and will be served at the fundraiser.

"I think we've started to condition ourselves to the idea of having a woman president," said O'Hanlon, who cited as one factor the television show "Commander in Chief," which stars Geena Davis as the nation's first female president. ABC this week yanked the drama from its May lineup.

The idea of a group which supports the former first lady and New York senator coming to a state that elected George W. Bush twice made the chairman of the Tennessee Republican Party chuckle.

"It's very interesting that Hillary Clinton's draft movement would start such an effort where both Al Gore and John Kerry were decisively beaten," Bob Davis said.

"Besides Harold Ford Jr., she is the one person who will drive every conservative voter from across the state to vote against," Davis said.

Ford is the Democrat running for Republican Bill Frist's Senate seat.

Kunst, an activist on many issues, has shown up in Tennessee before, once to protest the United States' embargo against Cuba and another time to attend "Gay Day" in Rhea County. ?
 

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BOOK WARNS: HILLARY WILL BE PRESIDENT IF GOP DOESN'T WISE UP TO CHALLENGE

BOOK WARNS: HILLARY WILL BE PRESIDENT IF GOP DOESN'T WISE UP TO CHALLENGE

Thu May 04 2006 11:05:37 ET

To face down the most dangerous and evil men in the world, as presidents must, the first female president of the United States will have ?to be a bitch. And Hillary is a bitch.?

So says John Podhoretz in a chapter of his explosive new book, CAN SHE BE STOPPED.

Republicans and conservatives are deluding themselves if they think she can?t win it all. She?s going to, Podhoretz says, unless they rise to the challenge and take her on in the right ways.

The shocking conclusion of the conservative NEW YORK POST columnist:

* ?The qualities that made Hillary Clinton such a problematic presidential spouse may also make her just the kind of woman people feel they can trust with the presidency. Namely, she has created an image of herself as unfeminine, an image that connects her to the successful female chief executives in other countries? like Golda Meir, Indira Gandhi and Margaret Thatcher.

*She?s right for the job because the first female president ?must not seem overemotional, or flighty, or guided by intuition rather than reason. She must not seem demure or delicate, nor can she seem brassy and sassy. She must not appear to be in a girlish quest of a strong man to help make things right. Above all, she must not seek to excuse any flaws in her conduct by suggesting that they are due to her being a woman?from the natural excuse, like a hormone rush jangling her emotions, to a political excuse, like an unjust society that won?t give the XX chromosome an even break. Just for vulgarity?s sake, let me put it this way: She?s got to be a bitch. And Hillary is a bitch. Her challenge will be to play up her antifeminine qualities without being completely without charm and appeal.?

*Being ?widely disliked,? even by many Democrats, will actually help Hillary. ?She gains from displaying her hard edge, her cold quality, to neutralize whatever negatives there might be as a result of her gender?.The word you?ll hear most often from Hillary defenders and sycophants will be steely.?

*Weakened by Iraq and corruption scandals, Republicans have a chance to get their mojo back by focusing on the Hillary challenge. If they act now and in concert, they can expose the way she feints to the middle but votes reliably to the Left and how she goes silent whenever there are controversial issues to be discussed. Podhoretz?s ?Smoke Her Out? strategy involves using Senate rules to force her to vote on controversial sense-of-the-Senate resolutions. She will either have to vote to satisfy the Left and turn off the middle, or vote in ways that anger the Left and lose the support of the Democratic base.
 

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I hope she doesn't make it. With husband Bill becoming so close to Old Man Bush she can't be trusted to be anything but another Neocon.
 

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StevieD said:
I hope she doesn't make it. With husband Bill becoming so close to Old Man Bush she can't be trusted to be anything but another Neocon.


stevie...

you got to be kidding me & everybody else here with that statement......

i think you got to get out of mass. more...& away from the kennedy/kerry cartel.....

you need aggressive action against these animals...sorry that you don't see this...
 

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i just read in the may edition of time magazine that al-zarquawi left afghanistan during the conflict with us there....went through iran & settled into northern iraq (pre-invasion) lining up with local terrorism groups.....

the article goes onto say that there is no exact date of when he arrived in iraq but it was before the 2/03 colin powell speech to the united nations....if i'm not mistaken powell even mentions the guy by name....

now matt, you & others may argue that there was no justification for invading iraq....that's yours & everybody elses right....

but i will not change my mind to the fact that i believe to this day that the invasion of iraq was justified...for a variety of reasons....including the above...

however i am now convinced that the invasion & the aftermath has not been handled properly...ie...not enough troops to seal off the borders to syria & iran or to protect the oil fields...etc...

the only thing these animals (including iraq & iran) understand is might...& if you don't believe that they're all connected there is nothing that i or anybdoy else will say will convince you...
 

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but i will not change my mind to the fact that i believe to this day that the invasion of iraq was justified...for a variety of reasons....including the above...

however i am now convinced that the invasion & the aftermath has not been handled properly...ie...not enough troops to seal off the borders to syria & iran or to protect the oil fields...etc...

I think this is the sentiment held by most on the board. I may be wrong, but I think most were for the war just against how it is being handled since we've been there. This is where I stand.

I think we use all the might we got to shut it down THEN allow them to put a government in place.

But I will be the first to admit that I don't know shit about this stuff.
 

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Right now folks might vote for anyone who is not a Bush or Reb.
 

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AR, he did run to Iraq. To Northern Iraq in an area where Saddam had no control. It is very unfortunate that guys like you cannot see the waste and now the danger this action in Iraq has caused us. I dunno what the Neocons have to do to convince you that they are out to destroy America as we know it.
 

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If that dud got there 2003 so we invade to get one guy. Wheres the seals. They handle small jobs like that. And north Iraq up by the Turks. He would die fast something wrong with that story.
 

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StevieD said:
AR, he did run to Iraq. To Northern Iraq in an area where Saddam had no control. It is very unfortunate that guys like you cannot see the waste and now the danger this action in Iraq has caused us. I dunno what the Neocons have to do to convince you that they are out to destroy America as we know it.


the guy was also in bagdad hospital where saddam controlled everything that went on.....

and don't worry i have no fear of the neocons or the liberals, (who scare me more) destroying america as we know it.....

but what will destroy us is inaction against these middle eastern thugs....

things changed after 9/11 & i'm sorry that people don't see that.....

but that's just my opinion.....

and dawgball...not everybody on this board was in agreement about this war....
 

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AR182 said:
and dawgball...not everybody on this board was in agreement about this war....

That's correct. Pretty much the same people who are against this 'war' now were against the idea in late 2002/early 2003. The exact major problems we are having were predicted very precisely by some dummies posting at madjacks.
 

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"most" does not equal "all"

And I will stand by the statement that "most" people on this board were initially for this war (or may be better stated as "not against")

but, yes, matt, everyone knows your brilliant
 

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AR182 said:
but what will destroy us is inaction against these middle eastern thugs....

things changed after 9/11 & i'm sorry that people don't see that.....
This is the kneejerk response. Mathematics and realism must also be used. We don't have the luxury of toppling every regime. Yeah, it would be great if everyone of fighting age loved war, lived for war, everyone else donated half their income to the war effort, and we could just run all over everyone. But it's not realistic. THE US DOES NOT DO WELL IN PRE-EMPTIVE WARS. We get this attitude about we have to "send messages" to the thugs, but don't you see how that wrecklessness just gets us in deeper usually? We get too full of pride and it's not really backed up by a deep willingness to fight. We have a lot of tough talk by lots of people, but not much willingness to truly sacrifice.

That being said, when we are attacked first (truly attacked - not the little crap Iraq did) it's a different situation. We had full authority and full support for massive action against the Taliban in Afghanistan. We could have and should have gone much bigger there. It made total sense to be overwhelming with that area and leave absolutely no doubt about our presence. We should have used the kinds of numbers we have for Iraq in Afghanistan.
 
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