e.u. unwilling to share info on citizens flying to the u.s.

gardenweasel

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the anti-american bureaucrats of the european union have struck down an agreement that requires the e.u. to share information on european citizens flying to the united states.....


May 30 (Bloomberg) —" Europe’s highest court struck down an anti-terrorism agreement that allows the European Union and the U.S. to share information on airline passengers, giving authorities four months to resolve conflicting rules.

The European Court of Justice in Luxembourg today said the 2004 accord was illegally adopted, upholding a challenge by European Parliament lawmakers. Authorities have until Sept. 30 to come up with new regulations, the court said.

Today’s ruling may mean that carriers such as Air France-KLM Group, Europe’s biggest airline, and Deutsche Lufthansa AG will have to choose between violating EU or U.S. law, facing fines on both sides of the Atlantic, according to Eduardo Ustaran, a lawyer specializing in information technology. The European Parliament had argued the rules violated EU protections on personal data.

“This is an extreme example of a conflict of laws between two jurisdictions,” Ustaran said in a phone interview from London. The decision puts the negotiation ""

another "what the hell" moment, brought to you by the hard-working bureaucrats of the e.u....

it's one thing to be concerned about privacy....

it's another to insist, after 9/11, that air travel should be anonymous....

perhaps the e.u. should now, being so concerned about privacy (uh huh), ban searches of luggage, x-ray machines and metal detectors as well?....

a little insensitive of "our friends"(sarcasm) to expect us to meekly accept their gift of e.u. trojan horses after september 11th.....

i guess the e.u. does not "feel our pain," as former pres. clinton might have said....

or....

..if all else fails,the euro`s can just sneak in through canada or mexico.....we don`t care....
 

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What difference does it make when we voluntarily let Saudis shlt all over our country anyway?
 

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GW,

Europe gets your ire, while Saudi Arabia, who had 15 of their citizens involved in 9/11 gets a flip joke?

How do you think China, for instance, would respond to America if 15 of our citizens ran 4 planes into buildings over there?

I doubt many there would be making silly jokes about it.
 

gardenweasel

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where did i say give the saudi`s a pass?....am i obligated to negotiate the entire spectrum of universal stupidity when ranting on a particular topic?...

the saudis are "shitting" all over us(as smurph so aptly put it),so,we give the euros a pass to send terrorists over here without checking them out?....

our "friends",the europeans?....also known as "eurabia"(the saudis are in europe)....

as a citizen of the usa, who might very well be killed or maimed by a hijacked airliner/missile arriving from the eu, i can only conclude that the ivory-tower eu snots are not on our side, nor on the right side of history in this fight against the radical islamists....

and that could include the saudis....

you guys feel better?... :mj06:
 

kosar

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gardenweasel said:
where did i say give the saudi`s a pass?....am i obligated to negotiate the entire spectrum of universal stupidity when ranting on a particular topic?...

the saudis are "shitting" all over us(as smurph so aptly put it),so,we give the euros a pass to send terrorists over here without checking them out?....

our "friends",the europeans?....also known as "eurabia"(the saudis are in europe)....

as a citizen of the usa, who might very well be killed or maimed by a hijacked airliner/missile arriving from the eu, i can only conclude that the ivory-tower eu snots are not on our side, nor on the right side of history in this fight against the radical islamists....

and that could include the saudis....

you guys feel better?... :mj06:

I agree that the Euros are not on the right side of this fight, but this particular issue matters little, IMO.

What I find interesting is that never once have you said anything against Saudi Arabian citizens, who, ummmm, were the predominant influence in 9/11.

It's funny, some of you guys go back and cite '9/11' every time you try to make a point for anything we do, but then run from it when it comes to actually holding the proper people responsible.

That includes Afghanistan, which we have largely abandoned in favor of Iraq. That's pathetic.

The opium growers currently run Afghanistan. They did before we got there and they will when we leave.

That is their only industry and we openly allow it(as stated, we don't want their 'economy' to collapse), even though America is the biggest market for it. That's pathetic.

I don't blame anybody for not being able to find Bin Laden. Finding a single man hiding in caves along the border of two non-friendly(please don't even think Pakistan is a true ally-Shariff is close to the edge of being overthrown and he needs to play both sides to the middle) is almost impossible.

However, the continued defense of the farce in Iraq is ridiculous.

Most Americans have finally come around and it has nothing to do with the evil mainstream media. It has to do with people actually using their brain.
 

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kosar said:
I don't blame anybody for not being able to find Bin Laden. Finding a single man hiding in caves along the border of two non-friendly(please don't even think Pakistan is a true ally-Shariff is close to the edge of being overthrown and he needs to play both sides to the middle) is almost impossible.

However, the continued defense of the farce in Iraq is ridiculous.

Most Americans have finally come around and it has nothing to do with the evil mainstream media. It has to do with people actually using their brain.


as far as the afghan battle goes i blame tommy franks for not getting bin laden.....

they had their chance at tora bora & franks got out foxed by his own strategy....i don't understand why he has gotten a free pass on this...

i still believe the iraq war was correct, my problem is that there weren't enough soldiers used for this war....

.on hardball today there was one of the colonel's (forgot his name) who has come out & questioned rumsfeld's leadership & he said that the original plan called for 380,000 soldiers for iraq & rumsfeld vetoed it....

i missed what else was said because i was on the phone but he basically said that if there were more boots on the ground we wouldn't have these continued problems....
 
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