Eddies Heroes

[PRO190]

Hey ED some of your Heroes are asking for your help, pry open that checkbook and donate::


Welcome to brandonhughey.org.

Brandon Huhgey is a former member of the U.S. Army who left his country rather than participate in an illegal act of aggression.
We're also more than happy to accept donations by mail to P.O. Box 23056, Midtown Post Office, St. Catharines, Ontario, L2R2J8. Cheques can be made payable to Brandon Hughey in trust.

Or to this coward

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[dogface]

Canada-

Send him back here, so we may take his freedom away for deserting those that are dying for the same freedom he is enjoying.

TSI

 

[PRO190]

1. Why did you join the Army if you never wanted to fight?

"However, just because I enlisted, I didn't abdicate my ability to evolve intellectually and morally, which I did as result of the circumstances I found myself involved in."

Translation: As a result of the circumstances I found myself in I evolved into a deserting ,immoral,unprincipled little POS! I had no problem taking the benefits as long as nobody was shooting at me!

No way Canada grants him refugee status imo, see you in 6mths when the MPs haul your ass to the Brig, I hope you don't see any of your Ex-unit soldiers, err actually I hope you do :chairshot:



DF: :yup:

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

Great to see two posters with such convictions. When you two signing up?

 

[djv]

I did along time ago. And I would like the over 4300 that skipped to Canada ducking Nam to get there ass back here. Even if Regan gave them amnesty. I amitt when I look back after Nam it was just a dam shame we even got our ass into it. But it was a differant time and everyone just thought the Commies would take over the world. We were dead wrong. But those folks should still have did ther duty. History will tell us if this Iraq thing is right or wrong to. Were dead wrong some times and to many die when thats the case. But at least they serve.

 

[PRO190]

Great to see two posters with such convictions. When you two signing up?

Tried, to many pins and screws in my leg wouldn't let me, that good enough for you Cow Chip>>

I guarantee I wouldn't be a coward and desert my fellow soldiers and country: You obviously have the same character flaws as these pukes so gidde up Chippy and head North! You'll be alive to tell your children what great role models you are, they will be very impressed I'm sure:

It's a shame many of the true role models will never get the chance to see their children b/c they made a commitment and HONORED IT!

For those that can't :gf:

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

Pro,

Looks like me and you will both continue to cheer on the soldiers from the cheap seats.

I'll let you judge what someone else's reasons are for sitting this one out and figure out the difference between someone who made a commitment and didn't honor it and someone who never made the commitment.

 

[Nosigar]

Pro,

Looks like me and you will both continue to cheer on the soldiers from the cheap seats.

I'll let you judge what someone else's reasons are for sitting this one out and figure out the difference between someone who made a commitment and didn't honor it and someone who never made the commitment.

Yeah, I'm gonna try to get out paying my mortgage. I just don't think it's right to have to pay all that money all the time, even though I signed those darn papers. I could use that money for so many other things. I've had a change of heart, you know, I should be able to live in the house but not have to pay those outrageous monthly amounts, it's just not right!

Man, I know it's not comparable, but one more symptom of liberalism is total lack of self-responsability and the crappy excuses that always follow. Of course, the excuses are always politically - correct meaning, as liberals usually do, they use the self-pitty excuse to garner favorable opinion towards themselves, even though the excuse itself is lame.

 

[ctownguy]

bobby cow chip exposed as just another left winger, that as all the quips to others posts, but NO BALLS HIMSELF

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Whether military action is right or wrong you can't let individuals decide. For every Tillman you will have 10 others who regardless of justification for conflict will find a reason not to serve to justify in their own minds, what in reallity is fear---and if you can get groups of these people together in protests in makes each cause look more justifiable. While I do think there are some that would have personal issues that would justify their actions, most fit in the above scenario.--but thats just my opinion. I've seen several CO's pick up weapon when there life was in jeopardy so I have to consider if their convictions against taking another life were really there in the 1st place. --an additional interesting fact is those filing for CO status dropped tremendously when it was found that most doing so did not avoid conflict but were trained as field medics which had very high mortality rates.

 

[StevieD]

How are these guys heroes of the left. If that was the case then Cheney and Bush would be Left Wing heroes.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Stevie If your statement was in reply to mine, my statement was made without regard to poltical association. If the shoe fits they can wear it. I don't know of many that would relish actual combat but how they react with the possibilty and when actually confronted with it was my point. There are degrees of consideration, and I don't diss anyone for fearing combat as I would consider that a natural reaction. My point would be same as those that would arrive on scene at accident with burning auto. Some will try an save the person inside while others will tell everyone not to go near it to justify their own lack of actions.

 

[StevieD]

Dogs my reply was not to your post. It was to the title of the thread and the thought that draft dodgers are heroes to the left. I was simply pointing out the irony of the situation and how the press has somehow given Cheney and Bush a virtual free pass while guys like Kerry and McCain have to justify their service record. Now I realize some think that Bush did not get a free pass because he was asked to release some papers that prove nothing. Even if he did show up to all those meetings all thinking people know he went in the Guard to dodge the draft.
As for these guys, they signed up, they knew the risk. I wish no one had to fight but if you wanna dance you gotta pay the band.

 

[dogface]

BBC-

I was turned down thank you very much! Please don't assume because I am behind a moniker and a keyboard that I spew information that I would not act upon. (I understand that is the majority, but I have never acted that way on this board or any others.) You want to question me, feel free. But rest assured my convictions stay the same.

I was raised as a military brat, had a father in Vietnam served a couple of tours, when he came back he switched over to be a boom pilot in the AF and then finally retired as an Air Traffic Controller.

I grew up on bases where B-52's warmed up every morning around 6:00 AM, those were the bird sounds in my house as a child. No one needs to speak to me about conviction, patriotism, or the support of our forces. I am pretty sure I was molded by my father, and being around the military. One just needs to accompany a father to the Vietnam Memorial and watch your father weep as he points to friends and barrack mates to understand my convictions as well.

You may question the thought BBC, but never question me, the person! You don't know me well enough!

TSI

 

[game on!]

Dogs my reply was not to your post. It was to the title of the thread and the thought that draft dodgers are heroes to the left. I was simply pointing out the irony of the situation and how the press has somehow given Cheney and Bush a virtual free pass while guys like Kerry and McCain have to justify their service record. Now I realize some think that Bush did not get a free pass because he was asked to release some papers that prove nothing. Even if he did show up to all those meetings all thinking people know he went in the Guard to dodge the draft.
As for these guys, they signed up, they knew the risk. I wish no one had to fight but if you wanna dance you gotta pay the band.

So all the men and women serving in the national guard during Veitnam were draft dodgers? :shrug:

The people who served in the guards knew that hah?! :thefinger.

Oh.. Ok.. :moon:

You including yourself in that thinking people statement?

 

[PRO190]

How are these guys heroes of the left.

SUSAN SARANDON'S not a Left Winger is she, her full letter of support and reference to Hinzman as a HERO must be just another Right Wing conspiracy: You guys amuse me to no end:lol:




Email the Prime Minister of Canada and Immigration and tell them in the name of our HONORABLE soldiers these COWARDS should be denied refugee status and deported :: I did!
pm@pm.gc.ca <pm@pm.gc.ca>
sgroj@parl.gc.ca <sgroj@parl.gc.ca>

 

[Marco]

If 4300 did evade the draft and go to Canada to avoid fighting in Vietnam, I would say that another 57,000 should have done so also.

They wouldn't have died fighting a needless war, some other country's civil war for that matter.......just to say they stopped the spread of communism.

There are other forms of government on this planet besides democracy......not everyone on the planet wants to be Americanized. The Vietnam war would have been somebody else's war, and rightfully so if all the troops that went over there would have seen it for what it really was and dodged the draft.....instead they went over there with some lofty idea that thier government was right just because it was thier government, and over 50,000 died for nothing.

Just because it's your government doesn't mean your government is automatically correct. Hitler ran a government about the same time as the emporer of Japan.......judging by some peoples standards, they ran a government, so they must have been right...

 

[PRO190]

If 4300 did evade the draft and go to Canada to avoid fighting in Vietnam, I would say that another 57,000 should have done so also.

They wouldn't have died fighting a needless war, some other country's civil war for that matter.......just to say they stopped the spread of communism.

There are other forms of government on this planet besides democracy......not everyone on the planet wants to be Americanized. The Vietnam war would have been somebody else's war, and rightfully so if all the troops that went over there would have seen it for what it really was and dodged the draft.....instead they went over there with some lofty idea that thier government was right just because it was thier government, and over 50,000 died for nothing.

Just because it's your government doesn't mean your government is automatically correct. Hitler ran a government about the same time as the emporer of Japan.......judging by some peoples standards, they ran a government, so they must have been right...

The ENTIRE POINT of this thread is about Honor and Commitment, not whether you agree with a Government. Nobody FORCED these scumbags to enlist like the many Hitler and Hito did, if they want to be COs fine but be a MAN and take the consequences! Don't run and hide behind your Wife and Child :: All the Men and Women serving now would rather be home with their Families but they have taken the High Road unlike these pukes you covet:gf:

 

[theGibber1]

when I look back after Nam it was just a dam shame we even got our ass into it.

you can thank JFK for that:shrug:

 

[StevieD]

Gibber, thank Ike, who signed the SEATO agreement. Game On, Some Guardsman did serve in Nam. The majority got into it to avoid the draft. You and your boy Bush can try to rewrite history but sorry it is true. Pro190 Susan Sarandon does not speak for the left she speaks for herself.