Eleanor Clift defines "Da Base"

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he is one racist motherfuker, and he was Obama's preacher for 20 years, you dont think Obama absorbed anything in 20 years, plus his book audacity of hope was after Jeremiah Wright...Obama is a racist too

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a vote for Obama was a vote for this hate...and you wonder why I dont like Obama

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he is one racist motherfuker, and he was Obama's preacher for 20 years, you dont think Obama absorbed anything in 20 years, plus his book audacity of hope was after Jeremiah Wright...Obama is a racist too

Keep posting, Hedgy. More posts from your fat ass just means you are closer to a heart attack.
 

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Seems to me, Wayne, that Clift was defining her take on what the Democratic Base consists of. Not what "Da Base" is. Did she use YOUR term "DA Base?" I don't think so. And that, to me, is the difference. And where racism does enter into the discussion. Had she said "Da Base" to try to make a point, that would be equal to what you are insinuating.

Again, it is no mystery to me why 98% of black people would vote for Obama in the last election, considering what black people have been through in this country, and electing him would represent for the entire group of black people in this country. I would not expect the same vast percentage to that degree in the next election.

I know you have a different agenda than that, but it seems pretty simple to me.

I think your making this a one way street Chad--I also said liberals and feminist in the 90% group--and illegals if they could vote--whose been providing the sancuary for them.

It certainly is not primarily blacks that make up the "Da Base". It can basically be put into catagory of those that a are recipients of "social engineering" and those that are incapable of seeing the forest for the trees --

eg feminist--Liberalist National Org of Women- campaign and back serial woman molester for pres- but rabidly dog pres that responsible for freeing millions of women--and you say??

Or maybe I can put this another way--

When you have party--
-Wanting no ID at polls
-providng sancuary cities for illegals
-wanting to allow felons to vote

all to strenghten their voting block--I think it pretty obvious who they feel Da Base is.
 

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You can put things any way you like, Wayne, but you'll never convince me that you don't use the term "DA" base primarily because of the black relationship. I don't think if you were labeling the feminist or non-black liberal part of the group, you would use the term "DA" base, especially considering the majority of photos you use to accent your points.

That's my simple comment to you, not an over-analysis of the themes behind what makes people support who they do.

As for the final part of your last post, I consider myself more liberal than not, and personally I think ID at the polls should be a requirement, that illegals should be aggressively returned to the country they came from if they have not taken the steps to become citizens, and I would be fine with felons who are serving time not being allowed to vote (haven't thought that one through, but makes some sense to me). I think there are many liberals who feel the same way, some here do, I know that. Your blanket comments don't always work, I don't think.

But your eternal referencing of "DA" Base certainly works in one way, I think, speaking of saying it enough, hearing it enough, and believing it enough - as was posted by someone here previously.
 

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Do you guys think that incessantly posting the worst possible video examples of a few black people states your case for you? If I post a hundred videos of backwards ass country hick stupid toothless white degenerates making dumbass comments, does that prove white people are racist and stupid? Do you think there are not a ton of white people that are lazy, stupid, and are doing nothing but taking advantage of welfare and entitlement programs in this country? Do you really think it's just black people and minorities that do this? Or is it just "those kinds of people" that bother you?

I will say there are a number of posts in this very forum that proves SOME white people are racist and stupid, however.
 

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You can put things any way you like, Wayne, but you'll never convince me that you don't use the term "DA" base primarily because of the black relationship. I don't think if you were labeling the feminist or non-black liberal part of the group, you would use the term "DA" base, especially considering the majority of photos you use to accent your points.

That's my simple comment to you, not an over-analysis of the themes behind what makes people support who they do.

As for the final part of your last post, I consider myself more liberal than not, and personally I think ID at the polls should be a requirement, that illegals should be aggressively returned to the country they came from if they have not taken the steps to become citizens, and I would be fine with felons who are serving time not being allowed to vote (haven't thought that one through, but makes some sense to me). I think there are many liberals who feel the same way, some here do, I know that. Your blanket comments don't always work, I don't think.

But your eternal referencing of "DA" Base certainly works in one way, I think, speaking of saying it enough, hearing it enough, and believing it enough - as was posted by someone here previously.

Sorry Chad I just can't write off 98% of an ethic group voting for one person as a coincidence.

Somehow I see an element of bias/predjudice--and make no apologies for it.

however DA Base not confined to race by any means.

Would say 80% of population with their hand out (collecting welfare-food stamps etc) voted for Obama and will vote for next dem to run.
--and who can blame them.
 

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Sorry Chad I just can't write off 98% of an ethic group voting for one person as a coincidence.

Somehow I see an element of bias/predjudice--and make no apologies for it.

however DA Base not confined to race by any means.

Would say 80% of population with their hand out (collecting welfare-food stamps etc) voted for Obama and will vote for next dem to run.
--and who can blame them.

I'm not suggesting the 98% voting for Obama is a coincidence in any way. Like I said, I understand completely why a black person would vote for Obama specifically, and I can't blame them in any real way, for the reasons I've mentioned. Especially considering their other option.

I also see some bias and prejudice in all those black people voting for Obama, and don't begrudge them that bias in any way. A black person helping elect the first black President in an election is historic, motivational and a prideful thing, considering the history of this country. Also considering most individuals in this country feel their vote doesn't really matter? Makes it even more understandable, compared to a vote for two people who profess to represent a party that clearly has never attempted to embrace the black vote, and whose supporters ridicule the entire group when push comes to shove. I think it goes without saying the Republicans - and especially the more conservative wing of the party - has not carried the torch for any black person not making a lot of money in this country. And actually has done what it could to undermine the group in their actions and legislation.

Your claim of Da Base, really has no basis in anything. Just as an exercise, I Googled Da Base, Feminists and Da Base, and Liberals and Da Base. Absolutely nothing came up related to anything noteworthy, other than lyrics from a rap song by 'Lil Wayne. Which pretty much proves my point, doesn't it? If your reference to something tangible regarding your term Da Base had any basis in reality, wouldn't it be referenced in some way other than a rap lyric?

I don't really need an answer to that question, just so you know, but go ahead if you like. It's good that you do note that the majority of recipients of aid dollars in the country are not black people, but the use of the word "Da" is where it comes home for me. You don't owe me anything, of course, but it doesn't take a rocket surgeon (my favorite joke by my stepson) to put two and two together.
 

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Chadman;2579999Do you think there are not a ton of white people that are lazy said:
I dont like anyone black, white, hispanic, whatever race taking advantage of the system, what happened to people getting out and working instead of looking for a handout.

video of Jeremiah Wright is proving that Obama is a racist, he goes to a church for 20 years and does not have any values like Wright? yeah right, it explains the things he is doing right now, get back at the rich white people...
 

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I guess you missed the Youtube videos and public statements of Obama criticizing Wright for many of his outlandish views? I don't think many reasonable people have to agree with or subscribe to every comment someone makes throughout their entire lives. Rarely, unless it's someone like Rush Limbaugh with some people, is one person looked at as knowing everything, and is right about everything.

As for politicians and church, I think many of them attend as much for political reasons as for spiritual or guidance reasons. I think this is a prime example of that, personally.
 

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I'm not suggesting the 98% voting for Obama is a coincidence in any way. Like I said, I understand completely why a black person would vote for Obama specifically, and I can't blame them in any real way, for the reasons I've mentioned. Especially considering their other option.

I also see some bias and prejudice in all those black people voting for Obama, and don't begrudge them that bias in any way. A black person helping elect the first black President in an election is historic, motivational and a prideful thing, considering the history of this country. Also considering most individuals in this country feel their vote doesn't really matter? Makes it even more understandable, compared to a vote for two people who profess to represent a party that clearly has never attempted to embrace the black vote, and whose supporters ridicule the entire group when push comes to shove. I think it goes without saying the Republicans - and especially the more conservative wing of the party - has not carried the torch for any black person not making a lot of money in this country. And actually has done what it could to undermine the group in their actions and legislation.

Your claim of Da Base, really has no basis in anything. Just as an exercise, I Googled Da Base, Feminists and Da Base, and Liberals and Da Base. Absolutely nothing came up related to anything noteworthy, other than lyrics from a rap song by 'Lil Wayne. Which pretty much proves my point, doesn't it? If your reference to something tangible regarding your term Da Base had any basis in reality, wouldn't it be referenced in some way other than a rap lyric?

I don't really need an answer to that question, just so you know, but go ahead if you like. It's good that you do note that the majority of recipients of aid dollars in the country are not black people, but the use of the word "Da" is where it comes home for me. You don't owe me anything, of course, but it doesn't take a rocket surgeon (my favorite joke by my stepson) to put two and two together.

Your digging yourself in deeper Chad -on the liberal logic blinders.

Given your statement in bold--

Now fathom for a monent if you would --the clan/raciist-tirads the liberals would have if 98% of whites voted against the black candidate.:0corn
I can just see someone here say --I can understand completely why a white person would vote for the white candidate specifically--and not get torched.
Yet when shoe is on other foot--it has that rightious liberal ring to it.--go figure. :)

Sorry my friend I just have no tolerance for generations of welfare whores-felons-illegals-70% illigitimacy rates regardless of color or creed.

I'd personal like to see conservative states cut welfare benefits to the bone where these people would be forced to move to liberal utopia states--and then let each side live with their convictions.
 

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Your digging yourself in deeper Chad -on the liberal logic blinders.

Given your statement in bold--

Now fathom for a monent if you would --the clan/raciist-tirads the liberals would have if 98% of whites voted against the black candidate.:0corn
I can just see someone here say --I can understand completely why a white person would vote for the white candidate specifically--and not get torched.
Yet when shoe is on other foot--it has that rightious liberal ring to it.--go figure. :)

Sorry my friend I just have no tolerance for generations of welfare whores-felons-illegals-70% illigitimacy rates regardless of color or creed.

I'd personal like to see conservative states cut welfare benefits to the bone where these people would be forced to move to liberal utopia states--and then let each side live with their convictions.

It was called slavery. Your welcome.
 

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Aside from the fact that many Americans - and I'd guess a couple that post in here - would vote blankly for a white candidate against a black or other minority candidate - the difference is looking at how many black people have been elected President, and how many white people have been elected President. Being a part of history and backing the first really worthy black candidate for President is a pretty motivating factor for black people, I would think. And that makes this particular election different.

In no way are the two the same thing, and you know it. Not sure exactly how black people have kept white people from succeeding in this country as a matter of historical record, but I know for a fact that white people have prevented black people from succeeding for a large part of this country's history.

If you don't see the difference, I need to borrow YOUR blinders just to see what life looks like from that perspective. When you couple that with given perspectives on which party has a more understanding and welcoming view of minorities in this country, I'm not understanding how the 2% (if that's a real number, BTW) could feel very good about their vote. Unless of course, they are the 2% of the people who are in the upper half of one percent that the conservatives are so focused on helping in this country.
 

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I guess you missed the Youtube videos and public statements of Obama criticizing Wright for many of his outlandish views? I don't think many reasonable people have to agree with or subscribe to every comment someone makes throughout their entire lives. Rarely, unless it's someone like Rush Limbaugh with some people, is one person looked at as knowing everything, and is right about everything.

As for politicians and church, I think many of them attend as much for political reasons as for spiritual or guidance reasons. I think this is a prime example of that, personally.

your just in denial, you dont go to the same church for 20 years and pick up nothing :shrug: Obama is just another politician, I think these are his values, his book was because of Rev Wright and his teachings...he is showing us on a daily basis he hates white people, especially rich ones...
 

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Aside from the fact that many Americans - and I'd guess a couple that post in here - would vote blankly for a white candidate against a black or other minority candidate - the difference is looking at how many black people have been elected President, and how many white people have been elected President. Being a part of history and backing the first really worthy black candidate for President is a pretty motivating factor for black people, I would think. And that makes this particular election different.

In no way are the two the same thing, and you know it. Not sure exactly how black people have kept white people from succeeding in this country as a matter of historical record, but I know for a fact that white people have prevented black people from succeeding for a large part of this country's history.

If you don't see the difference, I need to borrow YOUR blinders just to see what life looks like from that perspective. When you couple that with given perspectives on which party has a more understanding and welcoming view of minorities in this country, I'm not understanding how the 2% (if that's a real number, BTW) could feel very good about their vote. Unless of course, they are the 2% of the people who are in the upper half of one percent that the conservatives are so focused on helping in this country.

I would vote for a conservative black person over a white liberal in a heartbeat.
 

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your just in denial, you dont go to the same church for 20 years and pick up nothing :shrug: Obama is just another politician, I think these are his values, his book was because of Rev Wright and his teachings...he is showing us on a daily basis he hates white people, especially rich ones...

I'm in denial over what? You're personal opinion which is tainted by anything to do with Obama? I didn't say he didn't pick up anything, I said sensible people are capable of thinking for themselves and not blindly following everything other people subscribe to. I hardly think you are a respectable source to be judging this - because you think it doesn't make it more right, for crying out loud. Obama is just another politician in many ways, yes, which doesn't prove much of anything on this subject.

Saying he hates white people is just stupid - he's half white himself, right? So, he what, only hates half of white people? Jesus, you say some of the dumbest things, seriously.

How's your blood pressure? Seems you've been falling off the fewer posts wagon lately...

:rolleyes:
 

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I'm in denial over what? You're personal opinion which is tainted by anything to do with Obama? I didn't say he didn't pick up anything, I said sensible people are capable of thinking for themselves and not blindly following everything other people subscribe to. I hardly think you are a respectable source to be judging this - because you think it doesn't make it more right, for crying out loud. Obama is just another politician in many ways, yes, which doesn't prove much of anything on this subject.

Saying he hates white people is just stupid - he's half white himself, right? So, he what, only hates half of white people? Jesus, you say some of the dumbest things, seriously.

How's your blood pressure? Seems you've been falling off the fewer posts wagon lately...

:rolleyes:

Obama being anti-white:shrug:
 

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So, he hates the part of himself that is white? He hates one of his parents? He hates the white family members he has? All his friends who are white? All the white people that helped him get elected, many of which are quite rich?

Good logic. And of course, there's no racial profiling or logic in any of your posts or themes... you seriously need to borrow Wayne's blinders for your next post.

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