ELECTORAL COLLEGE

[JOEBIALEK]

The debate has started again as to whether the US Constitution should be amended in order to change the presidential election process. Some promote
eliminating the Electoral College in favor of a direct popular vote for president while others believe the Electoral College should remain unchanged. Just as compromise solved the initial problems of the framers so it is that compromise can solve this problem. The solution is to change the electoral votes to electoral points and reward each candidate a percentage of points based on the percentage of popular votes received in each state.

This would eliminate the "winner take all" system thus allowing for all the votes to count. A voter is more apt to believe their vote counted when a percentage of popular votes are taken into account rather than the "all or nothing" system currently in existence. Further, this new system would integrate the desire for a popular vote for president with the need for the individual states to determine who actually gets elected.

As for political primaries the number of delegates awarded in each state should be determined by the percentage of votes won by each candidate.

For 2016 multiplying the percentage of votes each candidate received {in each state} times the number of electoral votes {in each state} results in the following: Clinton 256.985 and Trump 253.482.

 

[hawkeye]

I don't think Donald would agreeopcorn2

 

[homedog]

The debate has started again as to whether the US Constitution should be amended in order to change the presidential election process. Some promote
eliminating the Electoral College in favor of a direct popular vote for president while others believe the Electoral College should remain unchanged. Just as compromise solved the initial problems of the framers so it is that compromise can solve this problem. The solution is to change the electoral votes to electoral points and reward each candidate a percentage of points based on the percentage of popular votes received in each state.

This would eliminate the "winner take all" system thus allowing for all the votes to count. A voter is more apt to believe their vote counted when a percentage of popular votes are taken into account rather than the "all or nothing" system currently in existence. Further, this new system would integrate the desire for a popular vote for president with the need for the individual states to determine who actually gets elected.

As for political primaries the number of delegates awarded in each state should be determined by the percentage of votes won by each candidate.

For 2016 multiplying the percentage of votes each candidate received {in each state} times the number of electoral votes {in each state} results in the following: Clinton 256.985 and Trump 253.482.

Still butt hurt :violin:

 

[Skulnik]

?Trump and Hillary Clinton Are in a Bar. Donald Leans Over and??


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While it is unlikely this scenario would play out in the current political arena, you have to admit, the person that wrote this joke had Hillary dead to rights.

Imagine, Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are in a bar. Donald leans over, and with a smile on his face, says, ?The media is really tearing you apart for that scandal.?

Hillary: ?You mean my lying about Benghazi??
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?You mean the massive voter fraud??
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?You mean the military not getting their votes counted??
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?Using my secret private server with classified material to hide my activities??
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything lse??
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?Using the Clinton Foundation as a cover for tax evasion, hiring cronies, And taking bribes from foreign countries?
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?You mean the drones being operated in our own country without the benefit of the law??
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million, and right afterward it declared bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese??
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?You mean arming the Muslim Brotherhood and hiring them in the White House??
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?Whitewater, Watergate committee, Vince Foster, commodity deals??
Trump: ?No the other one:?

Hillary: ?The funding of neo-Nazis in the Ukraine that led to the toppling of the democratically elected president and to the biggest crisis that country has had since WWII??
Trump: ?No the other one:?

Hillary: ?Turning Libya into chaos??
Trump: ?No the other one:?

Hillary: ?Being the mastermind of the so-called ?Arab Spring? that only brought chaos, death and destruction to the Middle East and North Africa ?
Trump: ?No the other one:?

Hillary: ?Leaving four Americans to die in Benghazi and go to sleep?
Trump: ?No the other one:?

Hillary: ?Trashing Mubarak, one of our few Muslim friends??
Trump: ?No the other one:?

Hillary: ?Encouraging and supporting the murders of Palestinians and the destruction of their homes, towns and villages by Israel ??
Trump: ?No the other one:?

Hillary: ?The funding and arming of terrorists in Syria, the destruction and destabilization of that nation, giving the order to our lapdogs in Turkey and Saudi Arabia to give sarin gas to the ?moderate? terrorists in Syria that they eventually used on civilians, and framed Assad, and had it not been for the Russians and Putin, we would have used that as a pretext to invade Syria, put a puppet in power, steal their natural resources, and leave that country in total chaos, just like we did with Libya?
Trump: ?No the other one:?

Hillary: ?The creation of the biggest refugees crisis since WWII
Trump: ?No the other one:?

Hillary: ?Leaving Iraq in chaos? ?
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?The DOJ spying on the press??
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?You mean HHS Secretary Sibelius shaking down health insurance Executives??
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?Giving our cronies in SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and three months later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it??
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?The NSA monitoring citizens? ??
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?The State Department interfering with an Inspector General Investigation on departmental sexual misconduct??
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?Me, The IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress??
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?Threats to all of Bill?s former mistresses to keep them quiet?
Trump: ?No, the other one.?

Hillary: ?I give up! ? Oh wait, I think I?ve got it! When I stole the White House furniture and silverware when Bill left office??
Trump: ?THAT?S IT! I almost forgot about that one?.

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[WhatsHisNuts]

Still butt hurt :violin:

Another thoughtful comment from you. Thanks for your insight.

For those with the ability to hold a conversation, what are your thoughts? I think this is long overdue. As reported, if there was a candidate who got the "Didn't Vote" votes, they would have won the election. Part of it could be the current format. If you are a Republican leaning individual living in California, you might not show up to the polls because you know your vote is meaningless. Same for Democrat leaning people in the deep south. This forces candidates to think more broadly rather than focusing on 6 or 7 "swing" states.

 

[Duff Miver]

Another thoughtful comment from you. Thanks for your insight.

For those with the ability to hold a conversation, what are your thoughts? I think this is long overdue. As reported, if there was a candidate who got the "Didn't Vote" votes, they would have won the election. Part of it could be the current format. If you are a Republican leaning individual living in California, you might not show up to the polls because you know your vote is meaningless. Same for Democrat leaning people in the deep south. This forces candidates to think more broadly rather than focusing on 6 or 7 "swing" states.

Good point, Nuts.

The electoral system was put in place way back when it wold have taken a coon's age to check every little hamlet, farmstead and trapper's cabin. It allowed the election to be decided within a month. But it isn't REAL democracy, only an approximation.

Today, however, we can count every vote, everywhere in only a few days. And that's what real democracy is, the counting of every vote, the winner being the one with the most votes.

The electoral system should go the way of the Dodo.