enquiring minds want to know

[DOGS THAT BARK]

--Skulnik's signature brought this to my attention and I find it quite interesting.

With all the chaotic events with economy-wars etc when Mr Transparency took office- why would his 1st priority be banning release of any of his records with executive order.

Anyone care to venture a guess--besides the obvious--

THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
​

For Immediate Release
January 21, 2009

EXECUTIVE ORDER 13489
- - - - - - - PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS


​

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to establish policies and procedures governing the assertion of executive privilege by incumbent and former Presidents in connection with the release of Presidential records by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) pursuant to the Presidential Records Act of 1978, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Definitions. For purposes of this order:

• (a) "Archivist" refers to the Archivist of the United States or his designee.
  (b) "NARA" refers to the National Archives and Records Administration.
  (c) "Presidential Records Act" refers to the Presidential Records Act, 44 U.S.C. 2201-2207.
  (d) "NARA regulations" refers to the NARA regulations implementing the Presidential Records Act, 36 C.F.R. Part 1270.
  (e) "Presidential records" refers to those documentary materials maintained by NARA pursuant to the Presidential Records Act, including Vice Presidential records.
  (f) "Former President" refers to the former President during whose term or terms of office particular Presidential records were created.
  (g) A "substantial question of executive privilege" exists if NARA's disclosure of Presidential records might impair national security (including the conduct of foreign relations), law enforcement, or the deliberative processes of the executive branch.
  (h) A "final court order" is a court order from which no appeal may be taken.

Sec. 2. Notice of Intent to Disclose Presidential Records. (a) When the Archivist provides notice to the incumbent and former Presidents of his intent to disclose Presidential records pursuant to section 1270.46 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist, using any guidelines provided by the incumbent and former Presidents, shall identify any specific materials, the disclosure of which he believes may raise a substantial question of executive privilege. However, nothing in this order is intended to affect the right of the incumbent or former Presidents to invoke executive privilege with respect to materials not identified by the Archivist. Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative.
(b) Upon the passage of 30 days after receipt by the incumbent and former Presidents of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Archivist may disclose the records covered by the notice, unless during that time period the Archivist has received a claim of executive privilege by the incumbent or former President or the Archivist has been instructed by the incumbent President or his designee to extend the time period for a time certain and with reason for the extension of time provided in the notice. If a shorter period of time is required under the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist shall so indicate in the notice.
Sec. 3. Claim of Executive Privilege by Incumbent President. (a) Upon receipt of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Attorney General (directly or through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel) and the Counsel to the President shall review as they deem appropriate the records covered by the notice and consult with each other, the Archivist, and such other executive agencies as they deem appropriate concerning whether invocation of executive privilege is justified.
(b) The Attorney General and the Counsel to the President, in the exercise of their discretion and after appropriate review and consultation under subsection (a) of this section, may jointly determine that invocation of executive privilege is not justified. The Archivist shall be notified promptly of any such determination.
(c) If either the Attorney General or the Counsel to the President believes that the circumstances justify invocation of executive privilege, the issue shall be presented to the President by the Counsel to the President and the Attorney General.
(d) If the President decides to invoke executive privilege, the Counsel to the President shall notify the former President, the Archivist, and the Attorney General in writing of the claim of privilege and the specific Presidential records to which it relates. After receiving such notice, the Archivist shall not disclose the privileged records unless directed to do so by an incumbent President or by a final court order.
Sec. 4. Claim of Executive Privilege by Former President. (a) Upon receipt of a claim of executive privilege by a living former President, the Archivist shall consult with the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel), the Counsel to the President, and such other executive agencies as the Archivist deems appropriate concerning the Archivist's determination as to whether to honor the former President's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of privilege. Any determination under section 3 of this order that executive privilege shall not be invoked by the incumbent President shall not prejudice the Archivist's determination with respect to the former President's claim of privilege.
(b) In making the determination referred to in subsection (a) of this section, the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the incumbent President or his designee unless otherwise directed by a final court order. The Archivist shall notify the incumbent and former Presidents of his determination at least 30 days prior to disclosure of the Presidential records, unless a shorter time period is required in the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations. Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative.
Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

• (i) authority granted by law to a department or agency, or the head thereof; or
  (ii) functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budget, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
Sec. 6. Revocation. Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked.

• • BARACK OBAMA

THE WHITE HOUSE,

• January 21, 2009.

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Maybe he is suing Arizona to make sure he isn't deported!! You are one smart hillbilly.

 

[THE KOD]

It is these cited or perceived justifications made by a President when authoring Executive Orders that have come under criticism for exceeding Executive authority and have been subject to legal proceedings even at various times throughout U.S. history concerning the legal validity or justification behind an order's issuance.
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DTBlackdumbassgumby

you have harped on this for so long.

why dont your neocon right wing assholes process legal proceedings to get the order overturned ?

What is going to be so funny is that when Obama runs again in 2012

the neocons will not have anything to prove shit and he will be elected again.

oh shit that would be hard on the goverment tit wouldnt it dumb ass

 

[THE KOD]

Andy Griffith's new role: pitching health care law


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Jul 30, 11:02 AM (ET)


WASHINGTON (AP) - Actor Andy Griffith has a new role: pitching President Barack Obama's health care law to seniors in a cable television ad paid for by Medicare.

The TV star - whose role as sheriff of Mayberry made him an enduring symbol of small-town American values - tells seniors that "good things are coming" under the health care overhaul, including free preventive checkups and lower-cost prescriptions for Medicare recipients.

Polls show that seniors are more skeptical of the health care law than younger people because Medicare cuts provide much of the financing to expand coverage for the uninsured.

Medicare says the national ad is not political, but part of its outreach to educate seniors about new benefits available next year. Griffith is 84.

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Online:

Andy Griffith ad: http://tinyurl.com/22wnrrp

 

[THE KOD]

My duty is to save the world: Prince Charles believes he was born for a purpose By Fay Schlesinger

The Prince of Wales says he believes he has been placed on Earth as future King ?for a purpose? - to save the world.

Giving a fascinating insight into his view of his inherited wealth and influence, he said: ?I can only somehow imagine that I find myself being born into this position for a purpose.

?I don?t want my grandchildren or yours to come along and say to me, ?Why the hell didn?t you come and do something about this? You knew what the problem was?. That is what motivates me.

?I wanted to express something in the outer world that I feel inside... We seem to have lost that understanding of the whole of nature and the universe as a living entity.?

Green champion: Prince Charles, a long-term committed supporter of the environment, says the modern world has lost the understanding of nature
His impassioned comments come during a film about his belief that unbridled commerce has led to the destruction of farmland and countryside.

The documentary, called Harmony, is due to be aired on the U.S. network NBC in November to coincide with the launch of a book of the same name by the prince.
Charles is understood to have waived his author?s fee, and all royalties will go to his charity, the Prince?s Trust.
More...The Royal family to share its memories by posting photos on Flickr

But the Prince has previously come under fire for hypocrisy over his eco-values.

Last year he commandeered a jet belonging to the Queen?s Flight to attend the Copenhagen climate change summit, generating an estimated 6.4 tons of carbon dioxide - 5.2 tons more than if he had used a commercial plane.

Critics condemned his words as ?delusional?.

'I don?t want my grandchildren or yours to come along and say to me, ?Why the hell didn?t you come and do something about this? You knew what the problem was?. That is what motivates me'

Graham Smith, of the anti-monarchy group Republic, said: ?He is under the impression he has been sent to save the world and deliver us from our sins. It?s quite delusional.

?He will have to be impartial and keep his mouth shut when he?s king. If he really believes this is his mission and he disagrees with Government in future, he risks plunging us into a constitutional crisis.?

Senior royal aides denied the prince was attempting to mould his public image and pave the way to ensure a positive legacy.

They stressed Charles also cared passionately about his other royal duties, such as defence.

One said: ?In private he has dismissed talk of legacies - that?s not for him to say because it?s for others to judge. But hopefully his charities will carry on for many years to come.

Expensive trip: Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall in Brunei, Asia last summer. For the trip, he hired a private jet, leading to accusations of 'green hypocrisy' as the visit was designed to highlight environmental issues
?He has said there is a reason why he?s in a position to raise these issues - that there is some higher power. But there is more to his role than just green problems.

?It?s true that outside royal duties, the environment is the thing he cares most passionately about.?

In a trailer to the film, the prince spoke passionately about his decades-long quest for what he described in a statement as ?a sacred duty of stewardship of the natural order of things?.

He said: ?I started 22 years ago on something that nobody really wanted to know about except a few people who thought it was pretty crazy.

?The way nature presents itself - we?ve turned it into merely a mechanical process.
?What is happening to the small farmers around the world is simply appalling, as a result of globalisation. Is that really the intention behind it all, just to sweep all these people off the land??

An Asian woman, who is not named in the documentary, piled praise on the royal, saying: ?Princes Charles has been a very courageous man because he has never thought through the throne he will occupy - he has thought through the planet he lives on.?
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DTBlackdumbassgumby

Here is someone that you can relate to

he has the same sense of logic that you do

save the world

:142smilie :142smilie

 

[kcwolf]

DTB, you need a history lesson to save yourself from further embarassment.

 

[THE KOD]

DTB, you need a history lesson to save yourself from further embarassment.

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kc

if DTBlackgumby was worried about embarressing himself he would never make another post

:142smilie

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Sheez KC -you just get exposed for -higher energy costs mean cheaper prices for consumers --or thinking Breihart video was made 20 years ago- and have audacity to speak of embarrassment --your a glutton for punishment--:SIB

--bottom line name one president that refused to even have his birth certificate released? or even had it questioned



Maybe I've been missing the boat--

What exactly can you tell us about Mr Transparent--other than no experience-no qualification--and disfunctional backround--and terrorists-criminals and radicals as past mentors/associates etc

---and then conclude with your definition of transparency --

 

[Lumi]

Since the COD of ATL brought up the Royal Disgrace of the UK

Since the COD of ATL brought up the Royal Disgrace of the UK

Prince Philip, In His Own Words: We Need To 'Cull' The Surplus Population

Here is a re-cap of some of the things "HIS ROYAL VIRUS", Prince Philip has said in public concerning "culling the population"

Reported by Deutsche Press Agentur (DPA), August, 1988.

In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.


Prince Philip, in his Foreward to If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986.

I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers than it was in danger of extinction. What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population explosion had denied it somewhere to exist.... I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus.


Press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. on the occasion of the ``Caring for Creation'' conference of the North American Conference on Religion and Ecology, May 18, 1990.

It is now apparent that the ecological pragmatism of the so-called pagan religions, such as that of the American Indians, the Polynesians, and the Australian Aborigines, was a great deal more realistic in terms of conservation ethics than the more intellectual monotheistic philosophies of the revealed religions.


Address on Receiving Honorary Degree from the University of Western Ontario, Canada, July 1, 1983.

For example, the World Health Organization Project, designed to eradicate malaria from Sri Lanka in the postwar years, achieved its purpose. But the problem today is that Sri Lanka must feed three times as many mouths, find three times as many jobs, provide three times the housing, energy, schools, hospitals and land for settlement in order to maintain the same standards. Little wonder the natural environment and wildlife in Sri Lanka has suffered. The fact [is] ... that the best-intentioned aid programs are at least partially responsible for the problems.


Preface to Down to Earth by HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, 1988, p.|8.

I don't claim to have any special interest in natural history, but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in the number of game animals and the need to adjust the ``cull'' to the size of the surplus population.


Lecture to the European Council of International Schools. Montreaux, Switzerland, Nov. 14, 1986.

The great difficulty about ``life'' is that we humans are part of it, and it is therefore almost impossible to study objectively.... It therefore tends to be anthropocentric and gives scant attention to the welfare of all the other life-forms which share this planet with us.

...|When the Bible says that man shall have ``dominion'' over God's creation, the choice is between understanding dominion as in ``having power over,'' or dominion as ``having responsibility for.''



"Conflict Between Instinct and Reason"

Fawley Foundation Lecture. Southampton University, Nov. 24, 1967.

The conflict between instinct and reason has reached a critical stage in man's affairs, largely because the explosion of facts has revealed the instincts for what they are and at the same time it has undermined traditional philosophies and ideologies. The explosion of facts has effectively altered mankind's physical and intellectual environment and when any environment changes, the process of natural selection is brutal and merciless. ``Adapt or die'' is as true today as it was in the beginning.


Introduction to ``Exploitation of the Natural System'' section of Down to Earth by HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, 1988.

It took about three and a half billion years for life on earth to reach the state of complexity and diversity that our ancestors knew as recently as 200 years ago. It has only taken industrial and scientific man those 200 years to put at risk the whole of the world's natural system. It has been estimated that by the year 2000, some 300,000 species of plants and animals will have become extinct, and that the natural economy, upon which all life depends, will have been seriously disrupted.

The paradox is that this will have been achieved with the best possible intentions. The human population must be properly fed, human life must be preserved and human existence must be made safer and more comfortable. All these things are obviously highly desirable, but if their achievement means putting the survival of future generations at risk, then there is a pressing obligation on present generations to apply some measure of self-restraint.


Address to Edinburgh University Union, Nov. 24 1969.

We talk about over- and underdeveloped countries; I think a more exact division might be between underdeveloped and overpopulated. The more people there are, the more industry and more waste and the more sewage there is, and therefore the more pollution.


The Fairfield Osborne Lecture, New York, Oct. 1 1980.

If the world pollution situation is not critical at the moment, it is as certain as anything can be that the situation will become increasingly intolerable within a very short time. The situation can be controlled, and even reversed; but it demands cooperation on a scale and intensity beyond anything achieved so far.

I realize that there are vital causes to be fought for, and I sympathize with people who work up a passionate concern about the all too many examples of inhumanity, injustice, and unfairness; but behind all this hangs a deadly cloud. Still largely unnoticed and unrecognized, the process of destroying our natural environment is gathering speed and momentum. If we fail to cope with the challenge, the other problems will pale into insignificance.


Introduction to ``The Population Factor'' section of Down to Earth by HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, 1988.

What has been described as the ``balance of nature'' is simply nature's system of self-limitation. Fertility and breeding success create the surpluses after allowing for the replacement of the losses. Predation, climatic variation, disease, starvation--and in the case of the inappropriately named Homo sapiens, wars and terrorism--are the principal means by which population numbers are kept under some sort of control.

Viewed dispassionately, it must be obvious that the world's human population has grown to such a size that it is threatening its own habitat; and it has already succeeded in causing the extinction of large numbers of wild plant and animal species. Some have simply been killed off. Others have quietly disappeared, as their habitats have been taken over or disturbed by human activities.

Humans are the Greatest Threat to Survival

Interview with HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, in People Dec. 21, 1981 titled ``Vanishing Breeds Worry Prince Philip, But Not as Much as Overpopulation.''

Q: What do you consider the leading threat to the environment?

A: Human population growth is probably the single most serious long-term threat to survival. We're in for a major disaster if it isn't curbed--not just for the natural world, but for the human world. The more people there are, the more resources they'll consume, the more pollution they'll create, the more fighting they will do. We have no option. If it isn't controlled voluntarily, it will be controlled involuntarily by an increase in disease, starvation and war.


Address to the Joint Meeting of the All-Party Group on Population and Development and the All-Party Conservation Committee in London, March 11, 1987.

I do believe ... that human population pressure--the sheer number of people on this planet--is the single most important cause of the degradation of the natural environment, of the progressive extinction of wild species of plants and animals, and of the destabilization of the world's climatic and atmospheric systems.

The simple fact is that the human population of the world is consuming natural renewable resources faster than it can regenerate, and the process of exploitation is causing even further damage. If this is already happening with a population of 4 billion, I ask you to imagine what things will be like when the population reaches six and then 10 billion.... All this has been made possible by the industrial revolution and the scientific explosion and it is spread around the world by the new economic religion of development.


Address at the Salford University Degree Ceremony, July 16, 1973.

There may be disagreements about the time scale, but in principle there can be little doubt that the population cannot go on increasing indefinitely. Resources presently being used will not last for ever and pollution in its broadest sense, unless severely checked, is bound to increase with population and industrial activity.


Address to All-Party Conservation Committee in London, Feb. 18, 1981.

I suspect that the single most important gift of progress to conservation has been the development of human contraception techniques.


The survival of the "most important"

Interview with HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, in People magazine, Dec. 21, 1981 titled ``Vanishing Breeds Worry Prince Philip, But Not as Much as Overpopulation.

Q: Is birth control part of the solution?

A: Yes, but you can't legislate these problems away. You've got to get people to understand the need for it: the more important people, the ones who have responsibilities have got to do it because they're at the receiving end. They've got to accept the measures.


The Chancellor's Lecture, Salford University, June 4, 1982.

As long ago as 1798, Malthus explained what happens when the factors limiting the increase in any population are removed. One of the factors noticed by Darwin was that all species are capable of producing vastly greater populations than can be sustained by existing resources; populations did not increase at the rate at which they are capable was the basis for his theory of Evolution by Natural Selection.

The relevance to natural selection of this capacity for overproduction is that as each individual is slightly different to all the others it is probable that under natural conditions those individuals which happen to be best adapted to the prevailing circumstances have a better chance of survival. Well, so what? Well, take a look at the figures for the human population of this world. One hundred fifty years ago it stood at about 1,000 million or in common parlance today, 1 billion. It then took about a 100 years to double to 2 billion. It took 30 years to add the third billion and 15 years to reach today's total of 4.4 billion. With a present world average rate of growth of 1.8%, the total population by the year 2000 will have increased to an estimated 6 billion and in that and in subsequent years 100 million people will be added to the world population each year. In fact it could be as much as 16 billion by 2045. As a consequence the demand on resources of land alone will mean a third less farm land available and the destruction of half of the present area of productive tropical forest. Bearing in mind the constant reduction of non-renewable resources, there is a strong possibility of growing scarcity and reduction of standards. More people consume more resources. It is as simple as that; and transferring resources and standards from the richer to the poorer countries can only have a marginal effect in the face of this massive increase in the world population.


Speech at the Margaret Pyke Memorial Trust Dinner in London, Dec. 14 1983.

So long as they [birth control methods] ... remained taboo subjects the chances of making any impression on the human population explosion were that much more remote.

In the introduction to the IUCN Red Data Books which list all animals and plants under threat of extinction, it says that virtually everywhere the major threat to a wild species is loss of habitat to a rapidly increasing human population requiring more space in order to build villages and cities and grow more food. But starvation and poverty cannot be eradicated solely by increased food and resources at the expense of what remains of the natural world. Any increase in the provision of food and resources must be accompanied by a drastic reduction in the rate of increase in the human population.


Address on Receiving Honorary Degree from the University of Western Ontario, Canada, July 1, 1983.

The industrial revolution sparked the scientific revolution and brought in its wake better public hygiene, better medical care and yet more efficient agriculture. The consequence was a population explosion which still continues today.

The sad fact is that, instead of the same number of people being very much better off, more than twice as many people are just as badly off as they were before. Unfortunately all this well-intentioned development has resulted in an ecological disaster of immense proportions.


The Chancellor's Lecture, Salford University, June 4, 1982.

The object of the WWF is to ``conserve'' the system as a whole; not to prevent the killing of individual animals. Those who are concerned about their conservation of nature accept that all species are prey to some other species. They accept that most species produce a surplus that is capable of being culled without in any way threatening the survival of the species as a whole.

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

--bottom line name one president that refused to even have his birth certificate released? or even had it questioned

Its refreshing to see that all dtb has left is the birth certificate. He has joined skul to form a powerful duo at Jackies. :mj07:

 

[Trench]

Its refreshing to see that all dtb has left is the birth certificate. He has joined skul to form a powerful duo at Jackies. :mj07:

"Peter, the bad news is you're retarded. The good news is you scored well above DTB and Skulnik."

 

[Turfgrass]

Contempt is what you get when an opponents argument is too strong to refute.

 

[kcwolf]

President Obama revoked Bush's Presidential Order on January 21,2009. That Bush order allowed more secrecy during his administration. The new Obama order reverts almost word for word back to President Reagan's Presidential Order 12667. It allows the transparency we have come accustomed to over the last 31 years. It was big news on January 21, 2009.

These executive orders have an interesting history if anyone has the time to look at them.

Now the mockery of me can continue over something I never quite said and something I corrected within 24 hours.

I have no idea why this thread was started.

 

[Lumi]

President Obama revoked Bush's Presidential Order on January 21,2009. That Bush order allowed more secrecy during his administration. The new Obama order reverts almost word for word back to President Reagan's Presidential Order 12667. It allows the transparency we have come accustomed to over the last 31 years. It was big news on January 21, 2009.

These executive orders have an interesting history if anyone has the time to look at them.

Now the mockery of me can continue over something I never quite said and something I corrected within 24 hours.

I have no idea why this thread was started.

Is it Valentines Day 2011 already ?

Fuck ! All that herb I have been burning, time goes by quickly ! :mj07:

Good to have you back KC, even though I FUCKING HATE YOUR AVATAR :SIB

 

[rusty]

Contempt is what you get when an opponents argument is too strong to refute.

I noticed this one was passed over no problem.
Your right though.How many threads by them are Personally Attacked and filled with Contempt?LOTS!!

 

[rusty]

President Obama revoked Bush's Presidential Order on January 21,2009. That Bush order allowed more secrecy during his administration. The new Obama order reverts almost word for word back to President Reagan's Presidential Order 12667. It allows the transparency we have come accustomed to over the last 31 years. It was big news on January 21, 2009.

These executive orders have an interesting history if anyone has the time to look at them.

Now the mockery of me can continue over something I never quite said and something I corrected within 24 hours.

I have no idea why this thread was started.

KC.I tend to believe you.Having said that why all the controversy surrounding it?You can't blame just 1 party.

 

[Lumi]

Rusty,

do me, and the rest of the board for that matter a HUGE favor !

I am only speaking for myself, but maybe it bothers other people, I dunno?

Take a small break and learn sentence structure, please. Double space after a period,? ! in sentence. Your sentences become run ons. I am trying to help you with some basic lessons in grammar. Don't get angry or vindictive, get educated. I can help here and in the real world.

Peas....

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

I noticed this one was passed over no problem.
Your right though.How many threads by them are Personally Attacked and filled with Contempt?LOTS!!

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Rusty,

do me, and the rest of the board for that matter a HUGE favor !

I am only speaking for myself, but maybe it bothers other people, I dunno?

Take a small break and learn sentence structure, please. Double space after a period,? ! in sentence. Your sentences become run ons. I am trying to help you with some basic lessons in grammar. Don't get angry or vindictive, get educated. I can help here and in the real world.

Peas....

Maybe he could get some help from that 10 year old that was on his youtube clip about Manifest Destiny?

 

[rusty]

Rusty,

do me, and the rest of the board for that matter a HUGE favor !

I am only speaking for myself, but maybe it bothers other people, I dunno?

Take a small break and learn sentence structure, please. Double space after a period,? ! in sentence. Your sentences become run ons. I am trying to help you with some basic lessons in grammar. Don't get angry or vindictive, get educated. I can help here and in the real world.

Peas....

What is it you speaking for yourself or others??
LOW BLOWBut the personnel attacks are expected from someone like you.

This forum used to stick to the issues but lately it's just a bashing forum.I didn't know that proper spelling or sentencing was a requirement for this forum.Not that there is anything wrong on my end.

I won't call you out on your faults after all you have none ,right??