Evil Corporations Avoiding Taxes

[djv]

The other thing that gets my attetion. How we the people can have our money tax 5/6 times. Then we have those big cats pay little or nothing. Or they blame it on us the workers so they have to go off shore. A one dollar bill you worked for. Fed Tax, S/S, Medicare, State Tax, Sales Tax, County/City tax. Gas Tax. Telephone Tax. Hunting, Fishing, Boating, fees keep going up. In my city Dog and Cat Tax. Im not kidding Cat 5 bucks Dog 15 bucks a year. I now have 3/4 cents left from my dollar. Bend Over is right. And with a high deficit coming. Get ready for more. Someone always pays in the end. Look in the mirror and you will see who.
Chit forgot one are car plates they keep going up. And in some states they think we shoud pay to drive on there chitty roads.
And last time I was at national park last year. Rates were up 5 more bucks.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

That was funny Eddie

Alan Dershowitz,OJ's boy and civil rights left winger
--and address of Northen Ky Bar.
Thought you might be in law firm next door but they do immigration and estate which wouldn't be your cup of tea,but maybe the 850 address?--- but more than likely 4th or Pine St.
I'll have Jane check it out,shes been in that bldg since beginning of time.

Are you positive this is name and address you want it sent to before I fed ex it. Someone is not going to be happy with the hoops they are going to have to jump through to sign for it, and I don't want to get your tit in a ringer?

---and I hope I don't get you back on the road to gambling with windfall--but it really wasn't gambling was it--just payment for anticipated truthful statement and since swearing under oath means nothing to liberals I'll have to take you at your word, now theres a contradiction of terms

 

[ferdville]

There were at least two rather large National Guard units deployed to Viet Nam. This is absolute fact. My best friend happened to be in one of them.

 

[Rudy]

One of Ronald Reagan's best quotes applies here:

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so."

 

[StevieD]

It looks like I was wrong. Some units of the National Guard apparently did serve in Vietnam. I apologize for misleading anyone with my argument.

 

[auspice]

to StevieD

You mislead nobody. EVERYONE enrolling in the national guard during the Viet Nam years WAS trying to avoid the draft. One must look at the intent of an action, not always the end result. Only *talking heads* will give any other reason for serving in the guard in those years. One must also look at the intent of our dear president when he deserted from his assigned unit and never showed up. Perhaps he thought he could better serve our country by completely walking away from all responsiblity. Only the talking heads of the right can justify these blatant character flaws.

 

[djv]

Thats trues. Had to bring them in late sixties. Need some help in the back guard as we used to call it. A war that went 10 years I was always surprised we did not have to call up more. But remember why we did'nt. The draft. And the draft was the place that made many go to the Nat Guard and hide. Then there were others that just went to Mexico or Canada. Nat Air guard was the protectors of the states. Unless you new Helicopters you were not going flying in Nam. Our boys Bush and Clinton did well on the course they took to stay out of trouble. One did admit it one did not. It's ok no big deal. They both have big flaws.

 

[Chanman]

One must look at the intent of an action, not always the end result

Agreed.

 

[StevieD]

My apology is for saying that the NG did not serve in 'nam. Everybody who can think for themselves, except our friends on the right, know what the intent of our present Deserter in Chief was.

 

[ferdville]

You will get no argument from me on the intentions of people who served in the National Guard during the Viet Nam era. I can't imagine 5% not doing so to avoid the draft. My friend went to great lengths to even get into the Guard in California. During this time, there were virtually no spots available. The irony of the whole thing was that he finally got in by some pulling of strings and influential help, then got called up anyway. As for Bush, I would guess that he was no different. There is nothing to admire there, for sure. As a matter of fact, I find more things to dislike about "W" on almost a daily basis. But please democrats and liberals, do not have the unmitigated gall to blast Bush about his intentions to serve when your hero, William Jefferson Clinton, is still walking this earth.

 

[auspice]

to ferdville

An honest post. However, I'm not intending to blast bush for intending to get into the guard. I'm blasting him for deserting. He walked away scott-free, deserted in my opinion, of about a year or better of service. He just quit coming and was not 'picked-up' like any other civilian would have been. He never finished his last year or year and a half of duty and never called, wrote or gave notice. I think that's what StevieD meant. Better in his opinion to protest and use honest means of avoiding the war than not protest, ride your dad's coat-tails and finally desert and still yet later 'pretend' to be a fighter pilot and lead our country. It's a travesty but....what can any of us really do? Pretend I guess.

 

[dr. freeze]

better to protest? thats a good one....

protesting really helped the war effort

 

[auspice]

Your teeth are showing freeze. FYI.....denial is not a river in egypt.

 

[ferdville]

auspice - I don't disagree with your point - and you are probably right about Bush. I really don't believe, however, that Clinton's journey across the Atlantic was anything other than a self-serving action to avoid service. Almost every action he has ever taken was done to benefit himself in one way or another - and there is nothing illegal or unusual about that. I would put them in a similar class. Bush had help from Dad; Clinton was smart enough and slick enough to pull it off by himself. Whether it is better to serve, albeit unwillingly, and leave the party early is any better than not showing up at all - I don't know.

 

[StevieD]

Ferdville, the mention of Bush, and his welfare for the rich military disservice, was only brought up because someone earlier in this thread brought Clinton into the argument. Something those on the right like to do. But they brought up Clintons protest as if Bush had done something honorable by deserting his troop for a year to work on someones senate campaign. I was just pointing out that Bush was no hero. I would trust the guy who used legal remedies to avoid serving but at least said he was against the war rather than a hypocrit who claimed to be in favor of the war as long as it was someone else fighting it.

 

[dr. freeze]

just ask yourself one question: which leader do 99% of our troops admire more -- Bush or Clinton?

 

[Chanman]

Like reading these posts, but arguing over politicians just seems like a lose-lose proposition. Some seem a little acerbic, but they do have valid points. I just think its funny how sometimes "What goes around, Comes around." Most thought the Republicans were trying to steal the Presidential Election when the voting in Florida was stopped. 'Recount, recount.' Now the Democrats are saying the Republicans are behind the CA Recall because they lost the Governor's Election and see this as an opportunity to steal the votes.
Glad there are so many wise & welcomed opinions present. This thread was originally on Corporations avoiding/not avoiding taxes. Just hope CA has someone besides us, Joe SixPack, left to tax. And as a footnote- I thought Davis followed Clinton's advice to a Tee whlie giving his Mea Culpa speech, but I thought Clinton was supposed to show up in person. My 2 cents- FWIW.

P.S.- Dr Freeze: Thats a pretty hard ? to answer. "Which do you like better- BJ or BUSH?":yup

 

[auspice]

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