he had drugs in his system, hmmmm.....he was high it sounds like to me
whether he was or not he is a drug user
nuff said
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he had drugs in his system, hmmmm.....he was high it sounds like to me
whether he was or not he is a drug user
nuff said
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how does that prove anything other than at one time within the last 30 days before he was killed he smoked marijuana?
Wasn't he walking back to his dad's house from a convenience store? His dad lived in the community. How do you know Zimmerman was attacked first? What would you do if you were 17 and some stranger was following you around? Seems like Zimmerman was a big pussy. He NEVER approaches if he doesn't have the gun NEVER! He is one of those gun toting wannabes. He's the guy who imagines himself being the hero when a crime is involved. He went to far, I still think he gets acquitted but he had no right to do what he did, from what I have read.
What do you think is going to come out in court that hasn't already? You think Zimmerman was just standing there and Martin approaches and starts beating the shit out of him? The 911 call proves Zimmerman's intentions when he doesn't stand down.
He had TCH in his system, big deal, who gives a fuck. IMO he wasn't high at time of the altercation, people high on Marijuana are not walking to and fro to the store and are mellow in most cases.
Hedgy I think you have placed an imaginary conclusion to what happened and are sticking by it. You have made this a political issue for yourself. You are sticking with Zimmerman being 100% not at fault because most libs are siding with Martin, this is a political issue when it should be about what is right and wrong. Zimmerman might not be guilty of murder, but he is guilty of invading someones personal space and being a BIG PUSSY
Hedgy I think you have placed an imaginary conclusion to what happened and are sticking by it. You have made this a political issue for yourself. You are sticking with Zimmerman being 100% not at fault because most libs are siding with Martin, this is a political issue when it should be about what is right and wrong. Zimmerman might not be guilty of murder, but he is guilty of invading someones personal space and being a BIG PUSSY
Actually some things have come out in testimony on the prosecutors side that didn't help in finding Zimmerman guilty.
Also, he was told to "stand down." The 911 operator simply said "you don't need to do that" after he said he was following so the person didn't get away. Whatever you think of the case at that point Zimmerman had done nothing wrong and was well within his rights. 911 can't encourage him to follow because of the inherent danger.
Like I've told Josh, let your home get broken into as well as your neighbors and you might think differently about his actions. I'm not saying the shooting was right but I also have no clue what happened between the two.
If (and this is a BIG IF that I nor anyone on here knows) Martin jumped Zimmerman for simply following him then IMO Zimmerman had every right to shoot him.
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Zimmerman was in no danger. The police were on their way to deal with the situation. His job was done. But he wanted to take things in his own hands. He will pay the price soon.
I've had my home broken into and almost killed the paper boy the next morning. I understand but you are flat out wrong.
TU, there is no law against him following someone or am I wrong? If he really thought the kid was up to no good then following him until the police got there was ok in my book. Neither you or me know what exactly happened.
When I first heard about the case and what most thought was going on I sided against Zimmerman. But now that more has come out(and yes like Josh said things that Zimmerman didn't know at the time) I have a tendency to think Martin might have been at fault. Right or wrong about Zimmerman having a gun, there are some things that point to Martin being a trouble maker and more than likely a person who had robbed someone.(again this conclusion comes from him having womens jewelry in his backpack at school)
I know most have their opinions and won't change and that's ok but let me ask you something. Was it ok for Zimmerman to follow him even after he called 911? If yes then what are your thoughts if Martin then jumped him without being physically provoked by Zimmerman? I just wonder if our opinions are different even on those things.
I'm not saying you're wrong because of how you feel because IMO people's opinions on things like this are formed based on things that have happened in their lives.
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What was Zimmerman's intent?
We will never know if Martin ambushed him. Of course that is what Zimmerman will be saying after another knock knock joke of course. Too bad for him its his word against a dead minor.
I thought his intent was to follow Martin until the police got there so he wouldn't get away until they were there. With 100% certainty I would have done the same thing and not thought anything about it.
We don't know if Martin ambushed him and we don't know if Zimmerman started it either. We don't know who's at fault but Zimmerman following Martin is not what makes him wrong if he indeed is at fault.
We'll never have Martins testimony but we do have his girlfriend who was on the phone with him at the time.
A DRUG USING THUG IS KILLED BY THE SECURITY GUARD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE HOUSES HAVE BEEN BROKEN INTO AND HAS THC IN HIS SYSTEM AT HIS DEATH WHERE HE WAS THE AGGRESSOR AND YOU MORONS THINK THE KID IS AN INNOCENT TEENAGER, HOW STUPID ARE YOU PEOPLE, READ THE KIDS TEXTS, HE CALLED HIMSELF A GANGSTA :mj07:
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A DRUG USING THUG IS KILLED BY THE SECURITY GUARD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE HOUSES HAVE BEEN BROKEN INTO AND HAS THC IN HIS SYSTEM AT HIS DEATH WHERE HE WAS THE AGGRESSOR AND YOU MORONS THINK THE KID IS AN INNOCENT TEENAGER, HOW STUPID ARE YOU PEOPLE, READ THE KIDS TEXTS, HE CALLED HIMSELF A GANGSTA :mj07:
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I agree with Tramp on this one, you don't help yourself. The kid was innocent up until he put his hands on Zimmerman, until then yes he was innocent.
Why did he have to stop him? He just needed to know where he was when the police arrived.
You have ZERO proof that anything that Zimmerman did was breaking the law. There's also ZERO proof that Zimmerman didn't go up and start a physical altercation. So, like I've said before I don't know who's right here but I can't see how anyone can take sides. It seems like most here on MJs think Zimmerman is going to be convicted. As a betting man I don't think that's a smart bet.
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If it was even money I would bet that he gets convicted. We will see.
The jury knows he was told to leave it to the police. He took himself and his gun to follow and maybe confront Martin. A minor is dead.
The jury doesn't know he was told to leave it to police. He was told "you don't have to do that sir." He was never told not to do it. The lead investigator on the case said that there was nothing illegal about what he had done by following Martin.
You said the key word here "Maybe." We don't know if he did or not.
Could of been too but at the same time Martin may have beat him to death, had he not shot him. The injuries Zimmerman suffered shows to me that Martin was going to beat him to a bloody pulp or to death, at what point do you have the right to protect yourself from death no matter how the fight started?
Laying- I know what you are saying but when 911 tells you "we don't need you to do that." They also tell him to wait for police. He shoulda figured it out. I know it's a technicality though.
But I don't know for sure, what if it was a 13 year old girl he is following? Is it against the law to stalk a minor? I don't know, I know itht wxample is apples to oranges but if some adult was following my 17 year old nephew cause he had a hoodie on I would be pissed, I would call th police about an adult stalking my nephew who is a minor
But I don't know for sure, what if it was a 13 year old girl he is following? Is it against the law to stalk a minor? I don't know, I know itht wxample is apples to oranges but if some adult was following my 17 year old nephew cause he had a hoodie on I would be pissed, I would call th police about an adult stalking my nephew who is a minor
