Fact check, Republican llies about Obamacare
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Fact check-Gumby's healthcare lies--
During the 2008 presidential campaign, Barack Obama often discussed his mother's struggle with cancer. Ann Dunham spent the months before her death in 1995, Obama said, fighting with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she needed to pay for treatment.
THE GRIFTS
"I remember in the last month of her life, she wasn't thinking about how to get well, she wasn't thinking about coming to terms with her own mortality, she was thinking about whether or not insurance was going to cover the medical bills and whether our family would be bankrupt as a consequence," Obama said in September 2007.
"She was in her hospital room looking at insurance forms because the insurance company said that maybe she had a pre-existing condition and maybe they wouldn't have to reimburse her for her medical bills," Obama added in January 2008.
"The insurance companies were saying, 'Maybe there's a pre-existing condition and we don't have to pay your medical bills,' " Obama said in a debate with Republican opponent Sen. John McCain in October 2008.
THE FACTS
That is the time during which Obama says his mother battled insurance companies to cover her illness. But Scott, who had access to Dunham's correspondence from the time, reveals that Dunham unquestionably had health coverage. "Ann's compensation for her job in Jakarta had included health insurance, which covered most of the costs of her medical treatment," Scott writes. "Once she was back in Hawaii, the hospital billed her insurance company directly, leaving Ann to pay only the deductible and any uncovered expenses, which, she said, came to several hundred dollars a month."
Scott writes that Dunham, who wanted to be compensated for those costs as well as for her living expenses, "filed a separate claim under her employer's disability insurance policy." It was that claim, with the insurance company CIGNA, that was denied in August 1995 because, CIGNA investigators said, Dunham's condition was known before she was covered by the policy.
Dunham protested the decision and, Scott writes, "informed CIGNA that she was turning over the case to 'my son and attorney, Barack Obama.' " CIGNA did not budge.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/polit...t-cast-obamas-health-care-story#ixzz1ckqNvlAJ
So she had health ins whole time and tried to take out disabilty--after the fact--and only thing Gumby missed was the ole scowl and finger wag during his con on--"the people"
:nooo:
During the 2008 presidential campaign, Barack Obama often discussed his mother's struggle with cancer. Ann Dunham spent the months before her death in 1995, Obama said, fighting with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she needed to pay for treatment.
THE GRIFTS
"I remember in the last month of her life, she wasn't thinking about how to get well, she wasn't thinking about coming to terms with her own mortality, she was thinking about whether or not insurance was going to cover the medical bills and whether our family would be bankrupt as a consequence," Obama said in September 2007.
"She was in her hospital room looking at insurance forms because the insurance company said that maybe she had a pre-existing condition and maybe they wouldn't have to reimburse her for her medical bills," Obama added in January 2008.
"The insurance companies were saying, 'Maybe there's a pre-existing condition and we don't have to pay your medical bills,' " Obama said in a debate with Republican opponent Sen. John McCain in October 2008.
THE FACTS
That is the time during which Obama says his mother battled insurance companies to cover her illness. But Scott, who had access to Dunham's correspondence from the time, reveals that Dunham unquestionably had health coverage. "Ann's compensation for her job in Jakarta had included health insurance, which covered most of the costs of her medical treatment," Scott writes. "Once she was back in Hawaii, the hospital billed her insurance company directly, leaving Ann to pay only the deductible and any uncovered expenses, which, she said, came to several hundred dollars a month."
Scott writes that Dunham, who wanted to be compensated for those costs as well as for her living expenses, "filed a separate claim under her employer's disability insurance policy." It was that claim, with the insurance company CIGNA, that was denied in August 1995 because, CIGNA investigators said, Dunham's condition was known before she was covered by the policy.
Dunham protested the decision and, Scott writes, "informed CIGNA that she was turning over the case to 'my son and attorney, Barack Obama.' " CIGNA did not budge.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/polit...t-cast-obamas-health-care-story#ixzz1ckqNvlAJ
So she had health ins whole time and tried to take out disabilty--after the fact--and only thing Gumby missed was the ole scowl and finger wag during his con on--"the people"
:nooo:
I thought it was the Affordable Healthcare Act?
I was once reprimanded in here for calling it Obamacare.
I guess if you have drank the kool-aid, you can call it whatever but if you haven't, you get called out.
I was once reprimanded in here for calling it Obamacare.
I guess if you have drank the kool-aid, you can call it whatever but if you haven't, you get called out.
There are political lies (campaign promises) that often politicians have only bout 50% control over then there are the absolute intentional blatant lies (above) --that define character
---combine the dishonesty with flagrant disregard for the law-over dozen tickets tossed until two prior to presidential campaign-plus his prior associates and most get pretty vivid picture--
Sad part is the # of folks that still identify him and evidently share his values--
--as the adage goes--
Show me who you walk with and I'll tell you who you are
