So you're saying that if you take Percy Harvin, Brandon Spikes, and a starting defensive tackle out of Florida's starting lineup that it wouldn't affect the outcome of the game. That was a weak statement Bobby, admit it.
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So you're saying that if you take Percy Harvin, Brandon Spikes, and a starting defensive tackle out of Florida's starting lineup that it wouldn't affect the outcome of the game. That was a weak statement Bobby, admit it.
................................................................So you're saying that if you take Percy Harvin, Brandon Spikes, and a starting defensive tackle out of Florida's starting lineup that it wouldn't affect the outcome of the game. That was a weak statement Bobby, admit it.
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bobbychips dont always think before he answers.
its the way he rolls
I dont hold it against him any
and your point? This is why we are on this discussion site for differing opinions
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HEDGE IM STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO PRODUCE 12 SONNERS THAT CAN RUN SUB 4.4 40'S.....................................SINCE THEY " HAVE JUST AS MUCH SPEED AS THE GATORS" DON'T WORRY I GOT TIME
Running back is the easiest position to replace on the field.
Florida's got Harvin with a gimp ankle, their leading receiver hasn't practiced in 3 weeks, they've got a G and TE that will be exteremely limited and they've played half the season w/o their starting CB.
You haven't heard much about it because Florida and their fans don't talk about it.
Florida's got Harvin with a gimp ankle, their leading receiver hasn't practiced in 3 weeks, they've got a G and TE that will be exteremely limited and they've played half the season w/o their starting CB.
You haven't heard much about it because Florida and their fans don't talk about it.
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1.HARVIN WITH A GIMP IS STILL BETTER THAN 95% IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL(THIS IS A FACT)
2.DON'T KNOW WHICH GUARD YOUR TALKIN BOUT BUT OL IS ONE OF THE BEST IN NCAA
3.TE HERNANDEZ IS AVG. 11.2 YDS PER CATCH AND FIVE TD'S
4.CB/ SECONDARY HAS PLAYED GREAT REGARDLESS WITH 24 INT'S 5 FOR TDS ALLOWING ONLY 172 YDS PRE GAME GOOD ENOUGH FOR 17TH IN NCAA
AM I MISSING SOMETHING?:shrug: :shrug:
LIKE I SAID.......GO GATORS NICE HIT SCOTT
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Bobby just wanted to come in here and make it sound like Oklahoma was already making excuses that if they lost it was for the lack of starters playing in the game. I haven't seen a single person on here making that statement. Bobby is just trying to start s**t because his team played a month ago in the crap bowl and he either a.) has nothing better to do, or b.) is still bitter about it.
Here are five reasons why Florida will beat Oklahoma:
1) It's the defense, stupid. My boss sometimes gets on me for using clich?s -- so I'll let Florida linebacker Brandon Spikes do it for me. "Offense sells tickets," said Spikes. "Defense wins championships." He's right: Nine of the 10 BCS champions to date fielded a top 10 scoring defense. Florida's ranks fourth (12.8 points per game). Oklahoma's ranks 58th (24.5 ppg).
The Gators' defense might not be quite as dominant as the 2006 team, but they're still pretty darn good (seventh nationally in total defense) -- and a whole lot better than most of the defenses Oklahoma has faced. If you've been watching the bowl games, you may have noticed most of the Big 12 teams' scores have gone down considerably upon facing outside competition. And the only league team whose defense truly shined was Texas -- the one team to beat the Sooners.
The key to beating Oklahoma is acclimating to its no-huddle tempo as quickly as possible and surviving its inevitable, early onslaught. TCU, which boasts the nation's top-ranked defense statistically (217.8 yards per game allowed), gave up three first-quarter touchdowns (all of them at least 24 yards) in their Sept. 27 game in Norman, but once the Horned Frogs settled down, they allowed just two scores the rest of the way while producing four of the 11 sacks allowed by the Sooners this season. Texas looked lost early but kept the score close, and disrupted two key late-game drives by twice sacking Sam Bradford.
"[TCU was] playing its tails off, and even the coach, Gary Patterson, made a comment that he screwed it up because he was [still] talking when the play was snapped," said Florida coach Urban Meyer. "We have to get lined up and get ready to go."
Expect Florida, much like Texas, to shut down OU's running game (which is missing star DeMarco Murray), but struggle against the pass early before adjusting to the pace. Once they do, Gators pass-rushers Jermaine Cunningham and Carlos Dunlap will start to get pressure on Bradford, which he doesn't see too often. If they can get him to make even a couple of mistakes -- watch out. In a 49-10 win over Georgia on Nov. 1, DBs Joe Haden and Ahmad Black returned a pair of Matthew Stafford interceptions for a combined 152 yards.
"Every quarterback, once you get pressure on him, knock him down, sack him a couple times, it will always mess up their rotation of how they're throwing the ball," said Cunningham. "So we need to just get to Sam Bradford and get in his head."
2) Speed kills. When Meyer arrived in Gainesville four years ago, he pledged to make Florida "the fastest team in America." It appears he's succeeded. At least 10 of Florida's regular contributors run a 4.4 or better in the 40, including a handful -- WR Percy Harvin, RBs Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps -- in the low-4.3 range.
But it's not just the obvious spots -- like running back and receiver -- where Florida's speed shines through. "They're fast at every position," said Oklahoma assistant head coach Bobby Jack Wright. "It's not just their speed, it's their speed all over the field." That includes linemen, linebackers and safeties that move faster than one might normally expect of their position.
Pure speed alone does not win you football games -- if it did, Florida would not have lost four games a year ago. Last year's team relied heavily on extremely inexperienced players; this year, those same guys know what they're doing -- and it shows.
"We have one of the fastest defenses [in the country]," Haden said. "Football speed is different than 40 speed. Guys like Brandon Spikes, [Ryan] Stamper, Dustin Doe, Major [Wright], Ahmad [Black] -- they know how to get to the ball. When you know what you're doing, you play that much faster."
Speed has become a bigger and bigger difference-maker in college football with each passing year, due to the preponderance of the spread offense and the need for speedy defenders to counteract it. Look back through the recent annals and nearly every national champion -- be it LSU, Florida, USC or Miami -- has been the team with the most speed.
It's not that Oklahoma is slow; Florida is just faster.
3) Percy is back. With the possible exception of Missouri's Jeremy Maclin, there is not a more dynamic threat in college football than Florida receiver/running back Percy Harvin -- and somehow Florida won the SEC Championship Game over Alabama without him. That speaks to the amount of offensive weapons Florida has at its disposal, but a healthy Harvin takes the Gators to a whole other level.
"He's pretty much the vice president of that team," said Oklahoma safety Nic Harris. "Tebow is the president."
Harvin averaged 103 all-purpose yards per game this season, but it's not just his productivity that gives the Gators a boost; it's the way Florida uses him. By constantly shifting Harvin in and out of the backfield, by handing it off to him, throwing it to him, shoveling it to him and running reverses with him -- defenses have to account for him on every play. That provides all the more opportunities for Tebow, Demps, Rainey, et al., to find mismatches amongst the remaining defenders.
Harvin rehabbed his ankle throughout the holidays, finally returning to practice last Saturday.
"He gives people more confidence," Tebow said. "It just makes everybody even more excited to know Percy is back, and I think he'll do a lot for our team on Thursday night."
The possibility of Harvin, Tebow, receiver Louis Murphy, tight end Aaron Hernandez and Demps/Rainey all on the field at the same time is a scary proposition for a young and injury-riddled Oklahoma defense.
4) Special teams matter. Somehow, Oklahoma has managed to make it to the national championship game despite some of the worst kick-coverage units in the country (probably because the reason they're kicking off so much is that they score so many touchdowns). Florida is the wrong team to face if you're having trouble covering return men.
Gators junior Brandon James is one of the most explosive kick and punt returners in the country. His 38-yard kick return in the fourth quarter against Alabama set up the Gators' go-ahead touchdown. Oklahoma, meanwhile, has a dubious track record: Texas' Jordan Shipley broke a momentum-turning, 96-yard kick return in the teams' Oct. 11 game, and Oklahoma State's Perrish Cox brought the Cowboys within three points in the fourth quarter with a 90-yard return on Nov. 29
It's clear from listening to Meyer's comments this week that Florida has put great emphasis on its special teams during bowl practices, not so much to exploit the Sooners' return coverage but to shore up their own coverage to try and pin Oklahoma's offense as deep as possible, as often as possible.
"We're very aware of the field-position game, as well, and hopefully we'll be able to execute and have it be in our favor," said Sooners coach Bob Stoops.
This seems highly unlikely.
5) Tebow, Tebow, Tebow. People get sick of hearing about it, but Tebow is as unique a player as college football has seen. His counterpart, Bradford, may well be the more talented quarterback, the better NFL draft prospect, but Tebow's charisma and leadership qualities are immeasurable. He played an important role off the bench in Florida's 2006 title win, but this time he'll be the man running the show -- and it's games like this in which the junior truly excels.
And if you think the "fourth-best quarterback in the Big 12" storyline won't motivate him -- not to mention losing out to Bradford in the Heisman race and hearing never-ending questions about his NFL prospects -- then you simply don't know Tebow.
"I did hear it, a few times," Tebow said of Sooners cornerback Dominique Franks' brutally honest assessment of him. "I'll just take it and try to use it as motivation and have fun out here Thursday."
Prediction: Both teams' offenses will come out smoking, with the Gators possibly making a big special-teams play, too. But as the game wears on, Florida's defense will start getting more pressure on Bradford and slowing down the Sooners' offense, while on the other side, Tebow and Harvin continue to find the end zone.
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1) It's the defense, stupid. My boss sometimes gets on me for using clich?s -- so I'll let Florida linebacker Brandon Spikes do it for me. "Offense sells tickets," said Spikes. "Defense wins championships." He's right: Nine of the 10 BCS champions to date fielded a top 10 scoring defense. Florida's ranks fourth (12.8 points per game). Oklahoma's ranks 58th (24.5 ppg).
The Gators' defense might not be quite as dominant as the 2006 team, but they're still pretty darn good (seventh nationally in total defense) -- and a whole lot better than most of the defenses Oklahoma has faced. If you've been watching the bowl games, you may have noticed most of the Big 12 teams' scores have gone down considerably upon facing outside competition. And the only league team whose defense truly shined was Texas -- the one team to beat the Sooners.
The key to beating Oklahoma is acclimating to its no-huddle tempo as quickly as possible and surviving its inevitable, early onslaught. TCU, which boasts the nation's top-ranked defense statistically (217.8 yards per game allowed), gave up three first-quarter touchdowns (all of them at least 24 yards) in their Sept. 27 game in Norman, but once the Horned Frogs settled down, they allowed just two scores the rest of the way while producing four of the 11 sacks allowed by the Sooners this season. Texas looked lost early but kept the score close, and disrupted two key late-game drives by twice sacking Sam Bradford.
"[TCU was] playing its tails off, and even the coach, Gary Patterson, made a comment that he screwed it up because he was [still] talking when the play was snapped," said Florida coach Urban Meyer. "We have to get lined up and get ready to go."
Expect Florida, much like Texas, to shut down OU's running game (which is missing star DeMarco Murray), but struggle against the pass early before adjusting to the pace. Once they do, Gators pass-rushers Jermaine Cunningham and Carlos Dunlap will start to get pressure on Bradford, which he doesn't see too often. If they can get him to make even a couple of mistakes -- watch out. In a 49-10 win over Georgia on Nov. 1, DBs Joe Haden and Ahmad Black returned a pair of Matthew Stafford interceptions for a combined 152 yards.
"Every quarterback, once you get pressure on him, knock him down, sack him a couple times, it will always mess up their rotation of how they're throwing the ball," said Cunningham. "So we need to just get to Sam Bradford and get in his head."
2) Speed kills. When Meyer arrived in Gainesville four years ago, he pledged to make Florida "the fastest team in America." It appears he's succeeded. At least 10 of Florida's regular contributors run a 4.4 or better in the 40, including a handful -- WR Percy Harvin, RBs Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps -- in the low-4.3 range.
But it's not just the obvious spots -- like running back and receiver -- where Florida's speed shines through. "They're fast at every position," said Oklahoma assistant head coach Bobby Jack Wright. "It's not just their speed, it's their speed all over the field." That includes linemen, linebackers and safeties that move faster than one might normally expect of their position.
Pure speed alone does not win you football games -- if it did, Florida would not have lost four games a year ago. Last year's team relied heavily on extremely inexperienced players; this year, those same guys know what they're doing -- and it shows.
"We have one of the fastest defenses [in the country]," Haden said. "Football speed is different than 40 speed. Guys like Brandon Spikes, [Ryan] Stamper, Dustin Doe, Major [Wright], Ahmad [Black] -- they know how to get to the ball. When you know what you're doing, you play that much faster."
Speed has become a bigger and bigger difference-maker in college football with each passing year, due to the preponderance of the spread offense and the need for speedy defenders to counteract it. Look back through the recent annals and nearly every national champion -- be it LSU, Florida, USC or Miami -- has been the team with the most speed.
It's not that Oklahoma is slow; Florida is just faster.
3) Percy is back. With the possible exception of Missouri's Jeremy Maclin, there is not a more dynamic threat in college football than Florida receiver/running back Percy Harvin -- and somehow Florida won the SEC Championship Game over Alabama without him. That speaks to the amount of offensive weapons Florida has at its disposal, but a healthy Harvin takes the Gators to a whole other level.
"He's pretty much the vice president of that team," said Oklahoma safety Nic Harris. "Tebow is the president."
Harvin averaged 103 all-purpose yards per game this season, but it's not just his productivity that gives the Gators a boost; it's the way Florida uses him. By constantly shifting Harvin in and out of the backfield, by handing it off to him, throwing it to him, shoveling it to him and running reverses with him -- defenses have to account for him on every play. That provides all the more opportunities for Tebow, Demps, Rainey, et al., to find mismatches amongst the remaining defenders.
Harvin rehabbed his ankle throughout the holidays, finally returning to practice last Saturday.
"He gives people more confidence," Tebow said. "It just makes everybody even more excited to know Percy is back, and I think he'll do a lot for our team on Thursday night."
The possibility of Harvin, Tebow, receiver Louis Murphy, tight end Aaron Hernandez and Demps/Rainey all on the field at the same time is a scary proposition for a young and injury-riddled Oklahoma defense.
4) Special teams matter. Somehow, Oklahoma has managed to make it to the national championship game despite some of the worst kick-coverage units in the country (probably because the reason they're kicking off so much is that they score so many touchdowns). Florida is the wrong team to face if you're having trouble covering return men.
Gators junior Brandon James is one of the most explosive kick and punt returners in the country. His 38-yard kick return in the fourth quarter against Alabama set up the Gators' go-ahead touchdown. Oklahoma, meanwhile, has a dubious track record: Texas' Jordan Shipley broke a momentum-turning, 96-yard kick return in the teams' Oct. 11 game, and Oklahoma State's Perrish Cox brought the Cowboys within three points in the fourth quarter with a 90-yard return on Nov. 29
It's clear from listening to Meyer's comments this week that Florida has put great emphasis on its special teams during bowl practices, not so much to exploit the Sooners' return coverage but to shore up their own coverage to try and pin Oklahoma's offense as deep as possible, as often as possible.
"We're very aware of the field-position game, as well, and hopefully we'll be able to execute and have it be in our favor," said Sooners coach Bob Stoops.
This seems highly unlikely.
5) Tebow, Tebow, Tebow. People get sick of hearing about it, but Tebow is as unique a player as college football has seen. His counterpart, Bradford, may well be the more talented quarterback, the better NFL draft prospect, but Tebow's charisma and leadership qualities are immeasurable. He played an important role off the bench in Florida's 2006 title win, but this time he'll be the man running the show -- and it's games like this in which the junior truly excels.
And if you think the "fourth-best quarterback in the Big 12" storyline won't motivate him -- not to mention losing out to Bradford in the Heisman race and hearing never-ending questions about his NFL prospects -- then you simply don't know Tebow.
"I did hear it, a few times," Tebow said of Sooners cornerback Dominique Franks' brutally honest assessment of him. "I'll just take it and try to use it as motivation and have fun out here Thursday."
Prediction: Both teams' offenses will come out smoking, with the Gators possibly making a big special-teams play, too. But as the game wears on, Florida's defense will start getting more pressure on Bradford and slowing down the Sooners' offense, while on the other side, Tebow and Harvin continue to find the end zone.
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This is Tim Tebow's favorite song. Seems fitting for the Sooner team coming into Miami.
Me ( Tim Tebow ) here at last on the ground, you in mid air (Sam Bradford)
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This is Tim Tebow's favorite song. Seems fitting for the Sooner team coming into Miami.
Me ( Tim Tebow ) here at last on the ground, you in mid air (Sam Bradford)
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Damn Teebows girl has some bomber tities
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who's playing again..........?
and let us not overlook #6.......
Meyer vs Stoops........ nuff said
Gators by a td 38-31
GL Scott.....got 'em at -3 :toast:
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Sooner Punter - OK ..... bam there it goes looks like a long kick
Sooner Punter - Hey guys James has got it.
Sooner Punter - Get him , get him
Sooner Punter - here he comes, I am going to have to tackle James.
Sooner Punter - Oh Shit !
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You have done an excellent job of breaking down the game and inserting appropriate ta-tas throughout this thread.
Perhaps your best to date.
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Perhaps your best to date.
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