florida................

[NySportsfan]

It's fawkin amazing.....So, Im thinking about moving out of the north, and to florida per fletchers advice, the weather, spring training, etc....I was down there visiting and it was swamped, and every article I read, the population is gonna keep getting higher due to people retiring and moving there, and the dang immigrants who have 10 kids each and yet dont pay taxes, but use up the social services:thefinger :thefinger, My luck, also read it's the 4th largest state behind ny,texas and california, and the traffics getting horrid. hell the real estates cheaper than ny, boston and such, but the $hits going to turn into smog filled la or houston, christ, cant even go to the southeast part of fla b/c miami has about a trillion people living there, sheesh, any decent spot has to be ruined, LOL, maybe the carolinas, and taoists knoxville are left, thats probably about it, ah well

Mike

 

[fletcher]

i told you not s.fl go to st.augustine or flagler beach, it is perfect and strick laws will keep what you are worried about from ever happening and you have orlando 1.5 hours away and jacksonville or daytona 45 mins away, also plam coast same area is nice and falls under the same laws of growth, st.augustine can't be beat.

 

[NySportsfan]

yea, I hear ya fletch re:st augustine, I just could use some help or your connections to land me a gig down there, if possible just enough to get by on so I can cap on the side. Yea, I wasnt thinking south fla, thats shit and is packed to the brim. Was thinking tampa b/c has the devil rays and close to spring training and an hour from orlando, but too crowded there also.. I'll take your word on st augustine, just is a problem as id like to have something lined up before I packed up and went in haste like we discussed in email a while back, thanks a lot

Mike

 

[fletcher]

always 6-8 buck an hour jobs all over the place there and will hire in a few days, then you can look for something you really want once you get in, hell barrnett is always looking for a person to hire, bank of america also there, 2 malls always have jobs, the resorts always have jobs, as well as landscaping on all the golf courses and they pay ok and are not bad to work for and get you started, the state park hires all the time and so does beach patrol skeeter 1 and i worked for them for 4 years , not hard to get your wsi if you don't have it and it pays 11-14 bucks a hour. also have ton of beach bars always looking for help and budwiser burkhert dist. have jobs all the time and you can use my name there, i am in good with them hard work though but very good pay. a job will be no problem to get you going and then you look for what you really want but getting a pay check to be able to live will be easy in the first week. won't be what you want but then you go from there and scout around.

 

[NySportsfan]

thank you much eric. Been looking at census things though and fawkin average age in flagler and augustine is like 42, but I guess thats misleading, like you said a while back college people come from gainesville and the like for the beaches, only thing I dont like is no baseball nearby spring training besides braves but no pro baseball, but magic close and jaguars for football like you said...6-8 an hr not gonna do much but like you said keeps me afloat for a little, budweiser distribution sounds like good job for young, strong armed guy like myself, I neved minded those kinds of things, bank would be good too, at least clean environment and you make a few impressions on people and you can go a long ways, Im starting to get your typing style now also thanks for the words, know you spent a lot of yrs down there and have a house in new smyrna would love to hear everything you havent told me already, just wanna be able to have bars to go to at night and look for chicks like you said, the ones who are bored with hubby and want it hard and fast but I dont do drugs so that part is out, a halfway decent job that pays ok, with flexible hours leaving me time to cap sports on the side, would be the absolute back, appreciate it eric, have your email and phone # on file, may hit it up again sometime if you do not mind, Thanks

Mike

 

[fletcher]

you can throw those age things out the door, trust me more people 30 and under live there year around, you have the college in st.augustine and u of n.fl and ju 35 miles away and unf is 20 miles, the town is more 30 and under by far it, is a fl beach town and beach and surfer chicks, those people do not fill out shit like that trust me.

You have the cubs a team in daytona and suns in jville aa team for braves i think they changed suns did a year or 2 ago.

 

[NySportsfan]

yea you're right about the age, I hear ya...It is nice though like you say, no big town feel of shitty traffic and smog like miami or palm beaches or orlando now even, probably bunch of younger people like myself who like to have fun....just need to be able to find a job in banking, or financial services or accounting to keep me going, the barnett bank you told me you knew the lady but that got bought out by bank of america, but seems they have openings I just checked in jax and st aug, have 5 yrs golf course experience also, dont know if you have an "in" at any course down there but Ive worked at good country club in ny for a while so have exxperience there, just would love to have a few hrs a day to cap hoops nba is what i like, and bases, and some time to have fun at night......no idea what apt's cost there either, you told me while ago they're affordable, Id hafta check that, more familiar with lake worth area since have family there, but people keep moving north and north and st aug is a good spot like you say, just want to be able to build towards something and not drift aimlessly makinh 7 bucks an hour, but Im better than that I think and hope, plus maybe capping can help, thanks a lot

Mike

 

[DR STRANGELOVE]

I have heard nothing but good things about St.Augs

 

[kosar]

and smog like miami or palm beaches or orlando now even,

There's no smog in Florida, guy. Not anywhere. WTF are you talking about?

That average age of 42 in Saint Aug is one of the youngest averages that you'll find in any city down here that's worth living in. Don't let that mislead you.

St. Augustine is nice, but it's a sleepy little town. Fort Lauderdale, for my money, is still the most consistently fun city down here, all things considered. Especially somebody in your situation. Great beaches, fun clubs, hot women and a good sized city that offers everything within 30 miles.. The traffic itself isn't all *that* bad, but the 'quality' of drivers is horrible. But being from New York, you would probably feel right at home.

 

[NySportsfan]

kosar, relax. Sorry I said it wrong, meant all the polluted air from the traffic thats coming now, It took me 2 hrs on I-95 to go what shouldve been 30 mins, of course 95 is a bad road but still. I didnt mean actual smog. Yea Lauderdales good, south fla is a little more happening and upscale than north fla as a whole, But it keeps getting more and more crowded, and expensive I have heard and seen, plus I wanna kind of be away from the hustle and bustle. st aug is a sleepy town? well then u and eric disagree, I assume there are loads of bars and all on the water, and nice beaches for chicks, at the worst, daytona is a short ride and orlando also, I originally looked at tampa mainly b/c it has all the spring training nearby, and can drive to see my knicks play the magic, and see some devil rays games, and if the giants play the bucs, but tampa heard isnt that nice so I dont know, sfla too saturated IMO, miami, english is like the 50th language, it's either the very rich or the very poor there, just want an affordable place to party, work and support myself and cap on the side where I wont go broke paying rent, or see all old people everywhere, thanks

Mike

 

[fletcher]

no matt and I don't disagree I was in lauderdale, sunrise, tamarac, and countryside(miami) for 10 years there is a major difference between it and st,augustine /daytona area, for what you wanted the nice fun beach bum free going is where i said to go.

But if you are looking for major night life and upper money lauderdale is the place to be and traffice there is easy to get around if you know you 4 major roads that go east and west and 4 major roads that go north and south , very easy dity to get around in, but it is not a beach town in the terms beach town, it is nice upscale city st.auustine and st.augustine beach is a tradional type beach town with lot of money from the families who have owen the town from the start and just got passed down from family member to family member.

your looking at apples to oranges in lauderdale to st.augustine, to be honest not a knock but don't think you would have the money to move to lauderdale and get a job to live and play , it takes money first to be there and then a job, with st.augustine,st.augustine beach, flagler daytona you can move in right on the beach for not that much or beach front, for get it in lauderdale that will not happen, lauderdale is the cities of all cities in fl or anywhere i have lived in my life, it is clean, major money and major party place but also that comes with a price tag, it puts miami to shame IMO . and if you are looking to make a businees move have some money in pocket for at least 4-5 months if you were to move there, if you want the beach bum fun style life laid back party, sex and fun and live on the beach I said st.augustine. but if your looking for major job, and upscale party fun lauderdale but don't count on living on the beach there. likr i said 2 whole different type of set ups and don't think you are ready for the lauderdale move, i did laugh when you said avg age 42 matt is right you won't find any lower avg age in fl then that, and forget orlando cent. fl it sucks you are better off living out here, you think 108-110 is hot move to cent. fl and you will se what hot is no ocean and humid and hot as hell. to live in lauderdale and have fun you need to be out of college have some money and a job lined up, not a place you move to and say i am going to start out my life here, you need to have pockets first to experince the great life lauderdale has to offer.

i have a good very good idea what you want and if you went to lauderdale you would be home in 4 months broke, you move there after you have some money, and the beach is not even close to the type of beach life you have in st.augustine daytona. lauderdale is a nightclub town life upscale great women. the other i talked about is beach life first job 2nd and younger women who act the same way beach life first job 2nd much more laid back beach type partiers.

 

[NySportsfan]

yes fletch your absolutely right, thats what I thought. I knew/know about lauderdale and the money differences there, it's another league between miami, palm beaches and lauderdale to st aug and daytona, just is like you say. never said I had the money or the caliber job lined up to pay a few k in rent a month, Id rather buy a place and get equity if i could for that, south fla is too congested anyway that was my main point. But yes, major nightlife Im not even that much into, I like regular bars, finding chicks, and going to ball games. dont need those expensive south beach clubs or lauderdale clubs where people go to be seen, I dont like the spotlight I like keeping it relatively calm, but Im sure that place is in another league, you just need more serious money, and it's not worth it to me right not to struggle for that IMO, you're idea was the best....move to st aug or around there, get one of the jobs u mentioned, although if you knew anyone at a country club thatd be the best, I love golf and have worked at a country club for 5 yrs, but have restaurants, bank of america, etc like you say, and can cap on the side. Id think the college girls drive to daytona though, no? I have no idea, just seems thats more commercial, but daytona has some junkies and some dumpy areas per my friend says, augustine much cleaner, at least augustine is an hour and a half from orlando so I can see my knicks come down there a few times a year....is ponce inlet, quail hallow and the other places u said a while back fletch affordable right, 5-700 a month? and near the beach you say as well, sounds good..........I was just in lake worth, shouldve taken the drive down there but went to spring training instead......st lucie, vero, now you're talking serious hick nothing towns, nice atmosphere but nothing there....Thanks again for whatever else you got, I know its only 1030 out there Im sure you'll reply

Mike

 

[NySportsfan]

fletch, forgot to throw in.........whats your take on tampa.......thats what I originally liked b/c of devil rays, about 5-6 spring training, bucs, magic an hour away, ybor city........but, Ive heard its somewhat not nice, and congested and kind of similar to a houston-type and houston is a shithole, but I guess each person has a different opinion, the beaches and all dont compare to augustine Im sure though, but it's more of a big city and has ybor city and the sports more so and some major things, but like you say st aug is shouting distyance from jacksonville which is a pretty big city, and has some bars and restaurants and some golf courses in its own right which can be good enough, just dont wanna live somewhere where the people on the beach all the time are old foagies and families LOL, but im sure thats not the case at all, thats all I wanted to add, Ill read what you reply tomorrow, good luck in bases in a few weeks

Mike

 

[fletcher]

i hate tampa would never live there, st.pete around beach yes tampa never even if I was paid. ebor city is about all tampa has going for it IMO and was in fl for along time, more dumps in that city then any other in fl. if it was that side of the coast it would be ft.myers sanabell island ft.myers beach now your talking major cash again. i am a east coast fl person never liked the west coast or panhanle just not me.

 

[Nosigar]

Smog? I can't say I've seen much down here. Did 20 years ago when I lived in Southern Cali.

And I don't know, but I really don't see many old folks around. Yeah, your occasional blue hair barely visible over the steering wheel, but that's more a rarity. I'm always surprised and confused when I hear all the jokes about old folks in S. Florida, and I've been here for 10 years. Must be way more up north. I live in the areas Fletcher lived.

NYS, most cities outside S. Florida (and maybe Tampa area) are more like "country", ya' know. You get less immigrants, but you get more country folk. Depends what you like. And there are probably better and cheaper sates along the deep south if you want that country folk atmosphere. I've lived in several.

 

[kosar]

kosar, relax. Sorry I said it wrong, meant all the polluted air from the traffic thats coming now, It took me 2 hrs on I-95 to go what shouldve been 30 mins, of course 95 is a bad road but still. I didnt mean actual smog. Yea Lauderdales good, south fla is a little more happening and upscale than north fla as a whole, But it keeps getting more and more crowded, and expensive I have heard and seen, plus I wanna kind of be away from the hustle and bustle. st aug is a sleepy town? well then u and eric disagree, I assume there are loads of bars and all on the water, and nice beaches for chicks, at the worst, daytona is a short ride and orlando also, I originally looked at tampa mainly b/c it has all the spring training nearby, and can drive to see my knicks play the magic, and see some devil rays games, and if the giants play the bucs, but tampa heard isnt that nice so I dont know, sfla too saturated IMO, miami, english is like the 50th language, it's either the very rich or the very poor there, just want an affordable place to party, work and support myself and cap on the side where I wont go broke paying rent, or see all old people everywhere, thanks

Mike

NY,

The air is not 'polluted from traffic' over there either. I-95 is like a Nascar race, but the only way that a 30 minute trip takes two hours is if there is a major accident. And even then, that's a stretch.

When I say 'sleepy little town', I don't really mean that as a put down. Of course there are things to do up there(bars, whatever) and the beaches are nice. Eric is probably right that St Aug. would be a better fit for you. By now, after 9 threads about you moving somewhere, I should have a better grasp on what you're looking for.

Lumping Fort Lauderdale clubs in with South Beach clubs is ridiculous. They are in no way similar. All that stuff about people going out 'to be seen' and also how expensive it is does not apply to most of the Fort Lauderdale clubs. South Beach, yes.

You have a strange habit of starting a thread asking questions about something/some place and then making a bunch a 'factual' statements about what you are asking about. As if you already 'know'.

Definitely agree with Eric that Tampa sucks, overall.

 

[NySportsfan]

kosar, relax man, No need to rip into me. No, I dont live down there, nor am I an expert, I was asking fletcher or others about the best places down there, and I was saying what I had heard about various things and places and the time I had been down there. I-95 has plenty of rush hour traffic, I worked down there for a little and I experienced it, but whatever. Im wrong then about lauderdale, sue me, south beach is all about being seen, lauderdale isnt I guess, I was wrong. thanks for the heads up re:tampa, I had heard it has dumps from a few people I know that visited, just liked how they had all the sports and business expansion around, that's all, not trying to start arguments in here man, If I make a statement and it's incorrect then that's fine I was wrong, I was going by what I had seen personally, things change over the years.....eric, is the budweiser distribution center in jax or st aug or where? heavy lifting im sure, but the delivery people make a halfway decent check Im sure to get you by, also remember I do not have a family, so I need much less to live on than someone whos 35 or 40 with a few kids so I can take some more chances....thanks for the help fellas.eric btw, did you recruit
a lot in pahokee, immokalee and those poor places? 30 mins away from where I stayed, papers said they have NO medical center in pahokee and has the worst poverty, terrible, some depressed areas, just have to feel for those people, but they produce tons of great athletes, edgerrin's from immokalee I know, thanks fellas

nosigar- no, I dont want a real country type place, trying to be in a normal, fun place, it's just that south fla is very saturated with people, immigrants, housing going up, that I think eric's choice could be better. not looking to live in like god damn ocala or the middle of nowhere or somewhere like that, but tampa apparently sucks, so comes down to the northern east coast, going to look into that

Mike

 

[Chanman]

i told you not s.fl go to st.augustine or flagler beach, it is perfect and strick laws will keep what you are worried about from ever happening and you have orlando 1.5 hours away and jacksonville or daytona 45 mins away, also plam coast same area is nice and falls under the same laws of growth, st.augustine can't be beat.

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