Flunking the Art of War

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Admittedly, this drips of narrow, liberal Bush-bashing, but it is interesting to compare the thoughts...

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Flunking the Art of War

Master Sun-Tzu, President Hu and Bush
By JOHN WALSH

At the very least China's President Hu displayed a sense of humor in presenting a book, of all things, to George W. Bush on his recent visit to the United States. And the choice of Sun-Tzu's fifth century B.C. classic, "The Art of War" was tantalizing. Since Dubya certainly will not penetrate too far into it, I decided to have a look, so that at least one American would honor the Chinese gift by actually reading it. This provided me a rare patriotic surge, much like the rush when I put my tax return in the mailbox.

Sun-Tzu did not disappoint. At almost the very beginning of the second chapter I found a near perfect description of Dubya's ill-fated war on Iraq. To quote:

"Master Sun said: The art of warfare is this:

"In joining battle, seek the quick victory. If battle is protracted, your weapons will be blunted and your troops demoralized. If you lay siege to a walled city, you exhaust your strength. If your armies are kept in the field for a long time, your national reserves will not suffice. Where you have blunted your weapons, demoralized your troops, exhausted your strength and depleted all available resources, the neighboring rulers will take advantage of your adversity to strike. And even with the wisest of counsel, you will not be able to turn the ensuing consequences to the good. There never has been a state that has benefited from an extended war."

What a simple and concise description of the quagmire in Iraq! Here Sun-Tzu is providing counsel for an invading army. For the invaded, or in our era for the colonized or occupied, protracted struggle and the inevitable atrocities committed by the invader are both keys to victory. It is certain that the military and the neocon architects of the war know these classical principles of warfare even if Dubya is clueless. One is led to suspect that the neocons knew that a quagmire would ensue in Iraq, and in fact there is evidence for this, but they did not care. They had other goals. (Think Mearscheimer and Walt.*)

In the third chapter, Sun-Tzu makes some further pertinent observations.

"Master Sun said: The art of warfare is this:

"It is best to keep one's own state intact; to crush the enemy's state is only a second best. The highest excellence is to attack strategies; the next to attack alliances; the next to attack soldiers; and the worst to attack walled cities. . Therefore the expert in using the military subdues the enemies forces without going to battle."

In other words going to battle is a sign of weakness, a sign that other means were not available. The very fact that the U.S. wages war on Iraq is a sign either of weakness or lack of wisdom, the latter a failure to perceive one's own interests. (Think Mearscheimer and Walt again.*)

In Chapter 13,

"Master Sun said:

"Intelligence is of the essence in warfare * it is what the armies depend upon in their every move."

And this has a dual application. In Iraq the Americans are surrounded by the Resistance; it seeps into their every pore like water even though they inhabit the desert. And so the Americans have no intelligence, and all the Abu Ghraib's in the world will not extort the information they want. One does not readily betray one's family and friends.

Finally, in the very first words of Chapter 1, Sun-Tzu offers perhaps his most important observation which we have left for last:

"Master Sun said:

"War is a vital matter of state. It is the field on which life or death is determined and the road which leads to either survival or ruin, and must be examined with greatest care.

"Therefore to gauge the outcome of war we must appraise the situation on the basis of the following five criteria, and compare the two sides by assessing their relative strengths. The first of the five criteria is the way (tao). The way (tao) is what brings the thinking of the people in line with their superiors."

(Think the polls that show the overwhelming majority of Americans feel that the war in Iraq is a mistake and not worth fighting, certainly not worth dying for. This amounts to bad tao for Bush and his accomplices in both War Parties.)

John Walsh can be reached at john.endwar@gmail.com or late on Friday afternoons in Boston picketing against AIPAC or the Dem establishment, the "left" wing of the bird of prey.
 

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It only gives credence to what anyone with an ounce of common sense knows and has known for the past five and a half years.
 

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These Asians can write some good books on war strategy--if you get the time read book by Vo Nguyen Giap a 4 star N Viet general.
He tells of his army being in the very adverse spot Sun-Tzu discusses and to the nth degree. In fact in the 18 months before we pulled out there was very few N viet troops in south viet nam--most action had been reduced to sabatouge by the vietcong. There hadn't been any major battles with norths regular army in about 18 months as Giap stated in book to do so was futlile.

Now about walshes (who I like) article. He is correct on Sun-Tzu book and observation however it doesn't come close to Iraq situation. The major battle was over in days with little oposition--there was no wall--and still is no wall. If fact many troops there now have never fired a shot--it is not a daily running gun battle. As before life expectancy is about equal to getto dwellers. Therefore it is not life and death daily trama--and in no way do they go into battle like North Viet did knowing their chances of coming out were next to nill.
Not taking anything from sacrifices of troops but most will agree Iraq and many parts of viet nam war were like R&R compared to those that had to hit the beaches in ww2.
Walshes comparing book to Iraq shows just how these peace activist see walls that are only there in thier minds--retention and re inlistments have never been higher than in this war--and desertion rates have never been lower in any war.
To Mr Walsh I say--if there any whining to be done let it come from those doing the fighting.
 

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I think your comments are pretty much fair, Wayne. But there are some things that kind of get glossed over when you make general comments like in your last paragraph that I find arguable. You (and others here) have often spoke of the retention and re-enlistment numbers being so strong. One of the reasons the retention numbers are so strong is because troops are being misled by those that tell them they are going over for a year, 18 months, whatever, and then they are told they are staying there for 2, 3, or more tours. What other choice do they have? Desert or quit the military and head out into Iraq when they are told they have to stay? Many soldiers and families are quite outspoken on this, and they are NOT happy about it. It's not what they signed up for. Much like how much money you and I are having to pay for this war. And might have to for years to come. It's not what we were asked to support and believe.

I've read in many places where the enlistment requirements have been lowered to allow more people access to military service. This is probably both a good and bad thing, depending on how you look at it, but I think it's symptomatic of the world we now live in. Conservatives blame "the media" and liberals for that, Liberals blame Bush and his war tribunal (I took a liberty with that one...ha) and corporations that stand to benefit from war. And, I would submit that ALL of those things probably contribute to differing degrees.

I also really object to the whining word. That is thrown about so easily these days...and used as a dismissive word to nearly any opinion used on the non-gung-ho-Bush side. Instead of dealing with another opinion, many conservatives (including you - who is pretty objective, I might add) just throw that out to demean any other thought process. I find that pretty weak, actually.
 

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If Sun-Tzu would have been followed by our leaders during Vietnam, Vo Nguyen Giap doesn't have anything to write about because we're out of Vietnam in six months simply using conventional weapons.

Spending ten years in the jungle giving them love taps wasn't going to win in Vietnam.....another ten years of the same useless strategy would have produced the same miserable outcome.

Bush Sr stated the futility of removing Saddam from power and trying to stabilize Iraq via democracy, something his generals clearly understood.....Dubya just threw out all prudent wisdom and went in without a strategy and figured everything would work out. It hasn't and it won't.
 
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