Following is the list of W's accomplishments
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Half full or half empty
Take a view of the epitomy of a liberals view--
by Stevie
"Dogs, please post those outstanding character traits. The best I can come up with is that he is a many times failed business man."
If he is a "failed businessman explain these facts.
Being of of his presidency on 2000 his tax return showed $549,236 income" ON INTEREST" alone.
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/presreturns.nsf/Returns/38FD05B5160A0FE285256E44007915D2/$file/bush00.pdf
Kerry by comparison in same year showed $497
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/presreturns.nsf/Returns/7BCF8DAD03C24D9485256E760070D64B/$file/FKERRY2000.pdf
Clinton When he became pres in 1992 reported $7,264 and you'll note who made the money in his family
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/presreturns.nsf/Returns/CB9C0D407BDAB96E85256E410075200D/$file/FCLINTON1992.pdf
His charitble donations were over 4 times Clintons and Kerry's collectively--of course not to tuff when Kerry stiffed em for "0" several years.
Don't believe Bush had to borrow money from his surgar momma to run either or live in there residences.Can't say he's ever been indicted for any thing yet--hasn't been able "not recall" or had any fanticies "seared" in his mind.Hasn't been impeached-disbarred or convicted of felony I am aware of.Been happily married to same wife with needing to call on Jessie or any other to pray for him--has not flip flopped when opinion changes.Hasn't shook his finger at us on what he knew was blatant lie.While there are those that dog his military service (even with forged documents) I can think of worse things than flying a jet for armed forces--carrying a protest sign in Europe maybe--OOPS forgot protesting in epitomy of valor to some.Believe he's even been referred to numerous times as draft dodger--Never knew joining was dodging.
Maybe we should look at the "Artful dodger"
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Eighteen-year old Bill enters Georgetown University and registers for Selective Service, as required by law. His status as a full-time student earns him a deferrment.
In his senior year, Bill receives a Rhodes Scholarship to study at Oxford University.
In February of 1968, the Federal Government eliminates draft deferments for graduate students and Bill once again becomes eligible in March of that year.
Clinton subsequently, though family and political connections, obtains a Navy Billet from the local naval reserve unit and temporary draft protection from the Garland County Draft Board, allowing him to start at Oxford - special treatment that was not uncommon for Rhode's Scholars of the day.
Clinton completes his first term at Oxford in December, 1969, and is ordered to report for a physical in January, which he did.
In April 1969, Bill was ordered to report for induction. However, delays in International mail delivery resulted in Clinton receiving his orders after the induction date had passed. By this time, he had begun his second term at Oxford. Regulations allowed him to complete the term, but he must report for induction by July 28, 1969.
Once again utilizing extensive political connections, Clinton gets accepted into the University of Arkansas ROTC program on July 17, nullifying his draft notice. Clinton would not have to enroll until he completed basic training the following year.
In the fall of '69, Clinton opts to return to Oxford, rather than enroll in the University of Arkansas Law School. While at Oxford, Clinton contacts the draft board to drop his ROTC deferment and return to active status. By this time, regulations had changed, allowing graduate students to complete their schooling before reporting for military duty. Clinton had a high enough draft number to virtually ensure he would not be called.
While his conduct may have been immoral and was undoubtedly unethical, it was not illegal under the laws at that time and, thus, the conclusion drawn that he was the first pardoned criminal to serve as President is fallacious. He craftily manipulated the system, but he had the proper and legal right to do everything he did. He was never AWOL, never guilty of failing to report, was never a criminal under public law and, thus, was not among those pardoned by President Carter in 1977
Take a view of the epitomy of a liberals view--
by Stevie
"Dogs, please post those outstanding character traits. The best I can come up with is that he is a many times failed business man."
If he is a "failed businessman explain these facts.
Being of of his presidency on 2000 his tax return showed $549,236 income" ON INTEREST" alone.
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/presreturns.nsf/Returns/38FD05B5160A0FE285256E44007915D2/$file/bush00.pdf
Kerry by comparison in same year showed $497
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/presreturns.nsf/Returns/7BCF8DAD03C24D9485256E760070D64B/$file/FKERRY2000.pdf
Clinton When he became pres in 1992 reported $7,264 and you'll note who made the money in his family
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/presreturns.nsf/Returns/CB9C0D407BDAB96E85256E410075200D/$file/FCLINTON1992.pdf
His charitble donations were over 4 times Clintons and Kerry's collectively--of course not to tuff when Kerry stiffed em for "0" several years.
Don't believe Bush had to borrow money from his surgar momma to run either or live in there residences.Can't say he's ever been indicted for any thing yet--hasn't been able "not recall" or had any fanticies "seared" in his mind.Hasn't been impeached-disbarred or convicted of felony I am aware of.Been happily married to same wife with needing to call on Jessie or any other to pray for him--has not flip flopped when opinion changes.Hasn't shook his finger at us on what he knew was blatant lie.While there are those that dog his military service (even with forged documents) I can think of worse things than flying a jet for armed forces--carrying a protest sign in Europe maybe--OOPS forgot protesting in epitomy of valor to some.Believe he's even been referred to numerous times as draft dodger--Never knew joining was dodging.
Maybe we should look at the "Artful dodger"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Eighteen-year old Bill enters Georgetown University and registers for Selective Service, as required by law. His status as a full-time student earns him a deferrment.
In his senior year, Bill receives a Rhodes Scholarship to study at Oxford University.
In February of 1968, the Federal Government eliminates draft deferments for graduate students and Bill once again becomes eligible in March of that year.
Clinton subsequently, though family and political connections, obtains a Navy Billet from the local naval reserve unit and temporary draft protection from the Garland County Draft Board, allowing him to start at Oxford - special treatment that was not uncommon for Rhode's Scholars of the day.
Clinton completes his first term at Oxford in December, 1969, and is ordered to report for a physical in January, which he did.
In April 1969, Bill was ordered to report for induction. However, delays in International mail delivery resulted in Clinton receiving his orders after the induction date had passed. By this time, he had begun his second term at Oxford. Regulations allowed him to complete the term, but he must report for induction by July 28, 1969.
Once again utilizing extensive political connections, Clinton gets accepted into the University of Arkansas ROTC program on July 17, nullifying his draft notice. Clinton would not have to enroll until he completed basic training the following year.
In the fall of '69, Clinton opts to return to Oxford, rather than enroll in the University of Arkansas Law School. While at Oxford, Clinton contacts the draft board to drop his ROTC deferment and return to active status. By this time, regulations had changed, allowing graduate students to complete their schooling before reporting for military duty. Clinton had a high enough draft number to virtually ensure he would not be called.
While his conduct may have been immoral and was undoubtedly unethical, it was not illegal under the laws at that time and, thus, the conclusion drawn that he was the first pardoned criminal to serve as President is fallacious. He craftily manipulated the system, but he had the proper and legal right to do everything he did. He was never AWOL, never guilty of failing to report, was never a criminal under public law and, thus, was not among those pardoned by President Carter in 1977
My glass is overflowing, pal. Honestly, my life is very good. And I enjoy expressing my freedoms and critiqing everything. My right as an American. Anyway, I'm 55% Conservative - so really if anything my glass is only 45% empty.SALTY DOG said:Your outlook on life and your life is empty and
you know it.....
:clap:
Funny though - lots of people's half full glasses in 2005 were half empty when Clinton was Prez. (....eyes turning towards DTB)
:mj07:
depends on what issue the glass pertains to Smurph.
I would say it was empty on issue of character of pres--on most other issues nearly full
Can't really say regardless of which administration is in, that it effects my outlook or my life.
I pretty much hold myself responsible for the ups and downs that may occur
I would say it was empty on issue of character of pres--on most other issues nearly full
Can't really say regardless of which administration is in, that it effects my outlook or my life.
I pretty much hold myself responsible for the ups and downs that may occur
DTB:
Having an assload of interest income has absolutely zip to do with being a good business man and a whole lot with having been born with the silver spoon up one's nose. (sorry for the coke reference there - I know that is one we kind of want to forget about Boy George).
As the great Ann Richards said about Sr. "He was born on third base and thinks he hit a home run" or something like that.
I totally second the character thing also.
And in the news this week even Republican Senators are lined up against Boy George's lack of concern for our OWN nation's infrastructure in spending priorities.
Having an assload of interest income has absolutely zip to do with being a good business man and a whole lot with having been born with the silver spoon up one's nose. (sorry for the coke reference there - I know that is one we kind of want to forget about Boy George).
As the great Ann Richards said about Sr. "He was born on third base and thinks he hit a home run" or something like that.
I totally second the character thing also.
And in the news this week even Republican Senators are lined up against Boy George's lack of concern for our OWN nation's infrastructure in spending priorities.
Don't know which businesses your talking about but many successful people have failed before becoming successful--its called attitude and resilience.
Bottom line on subject it boils down once again to facts vs opinion.
I have facts I think are credible and you have presented your opinion--fair enough!
Bottom line on subject it boils down once again to facts vs opinion.
I have facts I think are credible and you have presented your opinion--fair enough!
Wayne,
I guess i'll ask for the 9th time, as you've ignored the question the first 8.
Why does it bother you so much that a poor man rose to the presidency?
And why does it get you all excited that a trust fund baby, with a daddy that was president, became president?
I guess i'll ask for the 9th time, as you've ignored the question the first 8.
Why does it bother you so much that a poor man rose to the presidency?
And why does it get you all excited that a trust fund baby, with a daddy that was president, became president?
Facts are that he FAILED as a business leader - his abysmal record speaks for itself.
And why is W's Guard service OK but Clinton's not?
And why is W's Guard service OK but Clinton's not?
Ocelot every time I come on Madjacks I see you critisizing the administration and critisizing the United States, but offering no solutions to any of the problems you are complaining about. Why is that?
This is EXACTLY why the democratic party has slid so far down into the toilet. This is why the democrats are making it a habit of losing elections. you guys HAVE NO IDEAS OR PLANS!!!!!
Hell we still don't know what John Kerry's plan was to fight terrorism. lol
DEMOCRATS =
NO PLAN, NO AGENDA, NO IDEAS, NO PATRIOTISM, NO SUPPORT FOR OUR COUNTRY.
ONLY CRYING, WHINING, COMPLAINING AND FINGERPOINTING.
THIS THREAD, AS WELL AS YOUR 400 OTHER NEGATIVE THREADS, ARE PRIME EXAMPLES.
KEEP IT UP LIBERALS!!!! :mj07: IT ONLY HELPS THE REPUBLICANS WIN ELECTIONS!!
This is EXACTLY why the democratic party has slid so far down into the toilet. This is why the democrats are making it a habit of losing elections. you guys HAVE NO IDEAS OR PLANS!!!!!
Hell we still don't know what John Kerry's plan was to fight terrorism. lol
DEMOCRATS =
NO PLAN, NO AGENDA, NO IDEAS, NO PATRIOTISM, NO SUPPORT FOR OUR COUNTRY.
ONLY CRYING, WHINING, COMPLAINING AND FINGERPOINTING.
THIS THREAD, AS WELL AS YOUR 400 OTHER NEGATIVE THREADS, ARE PRIME EXAMPLES.
KEEP IT UP LIBERALS!!!! :mj07: IT ONLY HELPS THE REPUBLICANS WIN ELECTIONS!!
Hey baby murderer Manson:
On the contrary I DO have a solution to ALL the problems that YOU deny even EXIST.
Here it is...
ARE YOU READY?
ELECT A DEMOCRAT!
Very simple...very simple indeed.
You are amusing...but not nearly as much as beantownjim.
You may return to polishing Dick Cheney's balls now.
On the contrary I DO have a solution to ALL the problems that YOU deny even EXIST.
Here it is...
ARE YOU READY?
ELECT A DEMOCRAT!
Very simple...very simple indeed.
You are amusing...but not nearly as much as beantownjim.
You may return to polishing Dick Cheney's balls now.
