For all the weight trainers out there - ADVICE!

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Auspice: Nope! By the way creatine works...it doesn't sound like that is an occurence form creatine.

Raymond...no wonder you bench is so high. Harder to lock out the taller you are. But hey..your a power lifter, totally different sport!

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this the last advice on this thread

get the book by aronld schwarzengger
that the best advice on weight lifting and
food;)
 

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LOL my friend dropped that off today thanks guys Ill keep you updated!!
 

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instead of the heavy-protein drinks i used to take,i drink a carnation instant breakfast drink after every weight session....not after cardio work....if you want extra protein short term drink one before or during and one after....12 grams of protein per can....about a buck a pop...lots of potassium and vitamins....and if you can,eat chicken fish or lean red meat on the days you work out,that`ll increase your protein consumption naturally...

be careful if you decide on a protein shake...try and get one without chromium picolinate in it.....it supposedly speeds your metabolism....what it does is really speed your heart rate...i don`t know about you,but i don`t need anything in my body causing my heart rate to jump through the roof artificially....you could end up with palpitations or an irregular heartbeat if you stay on that crap long enough....

some great strength excercises without weights are dips and pull ups.....great for the shoulders and the dips are great for the lower pecs also...

as far as biceps go,if you have access to a universal machine,do curls from the bottom pulley while standing in a natural curling motion....and then do curls while sitting down from a high pulley....this balances the top and bottom of the bicep...

also,don`t forget palm up and palm down triceps pull downs and a little forarm work...i use a short bar with heavy weight hanging from a rope......palms facing you,curl the weight using just your wrists...surprisingly,that works the inside and the outside of you forearms...


as far as abs,i use the old chuck norris total gym...knees on the long pad and holding the top bar.....like doing the old rolling wheel ab excercise except on an incline....

if you are really hard core,i have an old roman chair i`m trying to get rid of....

but,if you want that six pack look,take my word,lean out....lose as much excess fat as possible....you don`t need to have overly muscular abs if you have decent genes....and very little excess baggage in the abdomen area....

legs are legs....squats,toe raises..extensions and hamstring curls......be careful with the hammy`s.....mine became to tight and i suffered through chronic hamstring pulls when i used to play flag and softball...

of course,you are probably a lot younger and more flexible than this old dog:rolleyes: :D .....

g.l.
 
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DJTranks said:
OK DOG I will keep you updated!

I am doing legs tommorow and will do what you said in the above and see how it works out!!!

DJ

Can you please describe the feling today..did you attempt to walk down stairs?

Let me know how you feeel on Friday/Saturday! I will take a massage and tylenol for you!!!
 

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GardenWeasel-

I am a litle concerned over your claim that chromium picolinate increased your heart rate. It's mechanism of action is/has nothing to do with increasing metabolism which in a sense raises or increases your hear rate. Chromium is the actual mineral being ingested, the ppciolinate portion is the form it is in (Chemical structure) thought to enter cells more easily.

Chromium keeps insulin levels within a normal range. Insulin itself regulates blood sugar and fat levels, and stimulates the protein synthesis in muscles.

My only concern...and it certainly wasn't to correct anything you had to say, but I wanted to give as accurate information as I am familiar with in this post. But my concern is your increased heart rate, checlk the label and see what else might have been in there...

I will say this on here, as it is and has been terrible for quite some time...ABSOLUTELY STAY AWAY FROM:

anything containing Ma Huang, or Ephedra the two most widely used names for this stimulant for a little did you know, here is a list of the other names this stimulant has been called.

sea ephedrine, ephedra, ephedra alkaloids, sea grape, yellow horse, yellow astringent, joint fir, squaw tea, Mormon tea, popotillo, and teamster's tea.

I woudln't put my worst enemy on this stuff...so read the label and if any of these names are on there...PUT IT DOWN!!!

Just a heads up!!
 

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DOGFACE!

I am going to do your work out for legs next week the problem was I took 2 weeks off from legs so I worked them up today and tommorow then next week it is time to do your workout and then I am going to get back to you!

ALSO is there an email addy I can reach you at?

THANKS GUYS!!

DJ
 

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GARDEN -

THX for all the info, for the abs you say lose all the fat which I have none LOL! but I am going to go eat tons so I can become bigger so will that affect my abs??

ALSO I will check the label I had a friend 2 yrs ago die because he took Ephedra in what he was taking, but I am going tommorow to pick up some stuff!!

THX!

DJ
 

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you could be right about the chromium....i experimented with several different powders and drinks and several had the effect of increasing my heart rate and b.p........the common ingredient seemed to be c.p.....but it very well could have been something in there under a name that i wasn`t familiar with.....as you listed many ingredients that could cause these problems......

you seem to be up on your supplement chemistry so i`ll bow to your expertise....

btw....dj.....go to national supplements .com.....they have all kinds of info about different supplements and many opinions and comments regarding the effectivness and safety of them from average guys that used them.....you can pull up chromium picolinate or anything else you are interested in and get some info.....

hope this helps....

great thread.....g.l. guys....
 

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sorry....it`s nutritionalsupplements.com...(not national).....that`ll get you there.....as far as the c.p. is concerned,you might wanna` read some of the info....g.l. bud...
 

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GW...again not directed towards you I want to be perfectly clear.

I recently read the reviews posted at this site...and I give it no more credence than a 30 minute informmercial! Anyone that reads, or justifies ones thoughts on there as opinions or otherwise and bases their actions upon those findings is absolutely crazy!

I know these are harsh words, but that site isn't worth the 10 dollars it took to put together IMO!

WIth that being said you could lump my thoughts, views, information, and research as such...but I am well versed and educated in this area...and I would enlist you to double check at any medical website or journal! And make sure the science is right in those journals and trials! As for anything else...sites like that draw my ire and I would shut them down...they can say anything they want simply because the FDA does not govern supplements. Taking everyday joe's opinions on there was offensive and full of ignorance...just my opinion!!!
 

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no prob,my man.....i`m just trying to give tranks as much info as possible....i took no offense by your comments....as i hope you took none from mine.....

you could very well be right about the c.p....different people react in different ways to different things....

i would say it`s best to gather as much data as possible and make one`s own decision....

best of luck guys.....

tranks....i`ll be lookin` for you in a future edition of FLEX magazine...
:D ;)
 

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LOL Weasel!

I just bought some protein shake stuff, has 2 ingrediants which I am not sure what they are but I will post them once I go back for lunch, but it seems pretty good and should not be a problem!

THX guys

DJ
 
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