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[Mags]

FDC:

We were discussing this issue last week. I thought you'd be interested in the editorial today from the Journal Sentinel (Milwaukee newspaper). FYI - The JS is typically considered left leaning (as are most newspapers today).

The way the JS sees this issue is pretty much how Americans see it - outside of Democrats who wear rose colored glasses.

Anyway, happy reading.....

http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinio...on-open-government-b99696012z1-374014501.html

 

[Duff Miver]

FYI - The JS is typically considered left leaning (as are most newspapers today).

Typical whine from The Maggot:

All the newspapers, and all the television, and all the radio, and just everybody is against me.

 

[JT]

Not all democrats wear rose colored glasses. Many of us would prefer Joe Biden, Bernie, Jim Webb, O'Malley. I mean fucking Jerry Brown would be better then Hillary. But guess what, as long as YOU can't get a grip on your party with having someone in the lead like Trump and the rest held hostage by the tea party, Glenn Beck, Koch brothers crowd then you will lose badly EVEN to Hillary. Pretty bad. There is a saying, we democrats aren't perfect, but at least we are not INSANE. Have a nice day....

:0003

 

[Duff Miver]

Not all democrats wear rose colored glasses. Many of us would prefer Joe Biden, Bernie, Jim Webb, O'Malley. I mean fucking Jerry Brown would be better then Hillary.

:0003

Good point, JT. I don't like Hillary. I'm afraid she'll have to show everyone she has the "balls" and get us into another unwinnable war.

Remember Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq? We didn't win any of them.

But, compared to what the Republicans have to offer, I'll hold my nose and vote for Hillary. I mean, JFC, how can anyone stomach Cruz or Trump? Gag a maggot.

But I agree with you: Biden, Sanders, Webb and O'Malley would all be better.

I happen to know Biden a little. He's a fine man.

 

[fatdaddycool]

FDC:

We were discussing this issue last week. I thought you'd be interested in the editorial today from the Journal Sentinel (Milwaukee newspaper). FYI - The JS is typically considered left leaning (as are most newspapers today).

The way the JS sees this issue is pretty much how Americans see it - outside of Democrats who wear rose colored glasses.

Anyway, happy reading.....

http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinio...on-open-government-b99696012z1-374014501.html

Most all newspapers are liberal huh? That's untrue and another popular buzz word by the "led by the nose Republicans".
I read the article and all I see is speculative propaganda in an editorial piece. I did enjoy the part where you tried to pass it off as a news piece from a "liberal" paper as if that lends it some sort of creedence?
It also reads extremely similar to the bullshit you posted a few weeks ago. Is this the actual article you plagiarized or is there some sort of Playlist you fools get in the mail. (A socialist entity that you readily accept by the way).
The point is, when you read things that say, "may have", "could have", "the only real reason she could have had to", that is called speculative editorial and in no way whatsoever is determinant as proof or evidence of fact.
The only possible reason you could be a Republican is because you're uneducated and stupid. See what I mean? Is it true? Depends on how often I say it and who's listening. It will be true to those that are gullible enough to think a failed ideology is suddenly going to work. You know. .....Republicans

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[Jaxx]

I happen to know Biden a little.

Proud moment for you huh?

:mj07:

 

[hedgehog]

Not all democrats wear rose colored glasses. Many of us would prefer Joe Biden, Bernie, Jim Webb, O'Malley. I mean fucking Jerry Brown would be better then Hillary. But guess what, as long as YOU can't get a grip on your party with having someone in the lead like Trump and the rest held hostage by the tea party, Glenn Beck, Koch brothers crowd then you will lose badly EVEN to Hillary. Pretty bad. There is a saying, we democrats aren't perfect, but at least we are not INSANE. Have a nice day....

:0003

Can you explain to me why you prefer to vote Democrat? :shrug:

 

[fatdaddycool]

Can you explain to me why you prefer to vote Democrat? :shrug:

If you're asking me, yes I can explain why I vote democrat. It's not for the reasons you may think either.

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[Mags]

Most all newspapers are liberal huh? That's untrue and another popular buzz word by the "led by the nose Republicans".
I read the article and all I see is speculative propaganda in an editorial piece. I did enjoy the part where you tried to pass it off as a news piece from a "liberal" paper as if that lends it some sort of creedence?
It also reads extremely similar to the bullshit you posted a few weeks ago. Is this the actual article you plagiarized or is there some sort of Playlist you fools get in the mail. (A socialist entity that you readily accept by the way).
The point is, when you read things that say, "may have", "could have", "the only real reason she could have had to", that is called speculative editorial and in no way whatsoever is determinant as proof or evidence of fact.
The only possible reason you could be a Republican is because you're uneducated and stupid. See what I mean? Is it true? Depends on how often I say it and who's listening. It will be true to those that are gullible enough to think a failed ideology is suddenly going to work. You know. .....Republicans

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FDC:

Let me ask you your thoughts. The article says that they think the only reason to set up a personal server was to avoid FOIA requests. That was actually what I said weeks ago (the article just came out 2 days ago, so no, I didn't read it first).

Hillary claims that it was "easier" and "more convenient" to set up her own personal server, maintain it, etc, than to just use the government issued email address. An IT person would tell you that is bunk - and any intelligent person knows that it is. It is not "easier" - it is actually much, much harder - and much more expensive.

So, if you don't believe the article's explanation (which I do, as do most non-Democrats), what possible explanation could one have for why would somebody go through this time and expense? I'm not sure if you ever had a job at a large corporation, but they all require you to use their work email address - no large company would allow you to set up your own server for official business and email from your home.

Other than ignoring FOIA, I can't come up with a single rationale why someone would go to the effort, expense, and time to do this?

Thoughts?

 

[fatdaddycool]

First of all it isn't required to use the company email and was not at the time. A point you simply ignore because it doesn't suit your agenda.
Secondly, the same thing has been done by every other secretary of state as well as other cabinet positions. Another point ignored for the same reasons.

Therein lies the rub. I don't need an explanation of any of that bullshit. It doesn't matter to me or to anything she did in office. The FACT is that if only matters to those Republicans with an agenda and slightly out of touch with reality. The topic has been pored over ad nauseum and for what reason and by whom? Again, the same piece of shit Republicans like McConnell that have no desire to serve the citizens and do their job or even pay attention to their own constituents that look only to tear her down. Why you ask? Because she's undoubtedly your next president and obstructionist politics is all they know and all they care about is keeping their seat.
This country would be far better off if we spent the money we spent on trying to muddy Hillary Clinton, on education and infrastructure. Unfortunately this isn't the case which is why we've landed here. A laughing stock for the Republican party and fodder amongst our international allies.
That's what you should be concerned with mags. You keep bringing up emails as if that hinders her ability to run the fucking country. Creating hate, widening racial divides, lack of policy, and a failed economic plan doesn't bother you a bit but holy shit someone didn't give me a harumph over there and you're all up in arms.
You better figure it out mags because you're not going to win this or the election and you're party is losing the house and Senate in all likelihood in an epic beat down. This is exactly why. I/we are tired of the sophomoric bullshit. Tired of the lies and ignorance. This isn't just about Trump either. It's about sitting down the government and then lying about it assuming everyone is as dumb as they are thinking we'll believe that bullshit. The fake war, the racism, the refusal to do their jobs, the lies on top of lies, the pure ignorance of denying science and climate change and pretentious attitude that makes you think you speak for Americans everywhere and you only speak for the rich whites. That's it.
The real majority has finally had enough and now you'll pay for all your bullshit. Stupidly enough, once this is over, there will even be some of those idiots that completely ignore all evidence to the contrary and want to move to an even more conservative position. That's what you're dealing with mags. A level of ignorance that nobody has seen before and we want to eliminate it.
So my explanation about emails? Who gives a fuck. I didn't care when everyone else did it and i don't care now. You think she's the only human being that likes to keep secrets?

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[Mags]

First of all it isn't required to use the company email and was not at the time. A point you simply ignore because it doesn't suit your agenda.
Secondly, the same thing has been done by every other secretary of state as well as other cabinet positions. Another point ignored for the same reasons.

Therein lies the rub. I don't need an explanation of any of that bullshit. It doesn't matter to me or to anything she did in office. The FACT is that if only matters to those Republicans with an agenda and slightly out of touch with reality. The topic has been pored over ad nauseum and for what reason and by whom? Again, the same piece of shit Republicans like McConnell that have no desire to serve the citizens and do their job or even pay attention to their own constituents that look only to tear her down. Why you ask? Because she's undoubtedly your next president and obstructionist politics is all they know and all they care about is keeping their seat.
This country would be far better off if we spent the money we spent on trying to muddy Hillary Clinton, on education and infrastructure. Unfortunately this isn't the case which is why we've landed here. A laughing stock for the Republican party and fodder amongst our international allies.
That's what you should be concerned with mags. You keep bringing up emails as if that hinders her ability to run the fucking country. Creating hate, widening racial divides, lack of policy, and a failed economic plan doesn't bother you a bit but holy shit someone didn't give me a harumph over there and you're all up in arms.
You better figure it out mags because you're not going to win this or the election and you're party is losing the house and Senate in all likelihood in an epic beat down. This is exactly why. I/we are tired of the sophomoric bullshit. Tired of the lies and ignorance. This isn't just about Trump either. It's about sitting down the government and then lying about it assuming everyone is as dumb as they are thinking we'll believe that bullshit. The fake war, the racism, the refusal to do their jobs, the lies on top of lies, the pure ignorance of denying science and climate change and pretentious attitude that makes you think you speak for Americans everywhere and you only speak for the rich whites. That's it.
The real majority has finally had enough and now you'll pay for all your bullshit. Stupidly enough, once this is over, there will even be some of those idiots that completely ignore all evidence to the contrary and want to move to an even more conservative position. That's what you're dealing with mags. A level of ignorance that nobody has seen before and we want to eliminate it.
So my explanation about emails? Who gives a fuck. I didn't care when everyone else did it and i don't care now. You think she's the only human being that likes to keep secrets?

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Here is the rub. I said set up a private server in her house, which nobody in government has ever done. This has its own set of problems, primarily security risks, and of couse, to remove any email you want and render it gone.

You equate that, every time, to having a personal email. You and I and everyone else in the country have a personal email - in many cases Gmail - but very few of us (if any) have set up a personal server.

But you keep going back to Democratic talking points by trying to say this is the same thing Collin Powell or Condi Rice did. The truth is, it's not. Neither one of those set up a server to control access to their email. They occasionally used a personal email address for business.

But not being able to tell the difference between having a gmail email address or setting up your own system so only you can manage the emails, delete what you want, and not have to provide them to FOIA requests?

I really had thought you were an intelligent guy. Most people can see there is a huge difference here. But you keep trying to say they are the same thing. Which is not very smart.

And you never answered the question: Other than trying to avoid FOIA, why else would she do something like this? She is dirty - just like all the Clintons.

 

[Mags]

First of all it isn't required to use the company email and was not at the time. A point you simply ignore because it doesn't suit your agenda.
Secondly, the same thing has been done by every other secretary of state as well as other cabinet positions. Another point ignored for the same reasons.

Therein lies the rub. I don't need an explanation of any of that bullshit. It doesn't matter to me or to anything she did in office. The FACT is that if only matters to those Republicans with an agenda and slightly out of touch with reality. The topic has been pored over ad nauseum and for what reason and by whom? Again, the same piece of shit Republicans like McConnell that have no desire to serve the citizens and do their job or even pay attention to their own constituents that look only to tear her down. Why you ask? Because she's undoubtedly your next president and obstructionist politics is all they know and all they care about is keeping their seat.
This country would be far better off if we spent the money we spent on trying to muddy Hillary Clinton, on education and infrastructure. Unfortunately this isn't the case which is why we've landed here. A laughing stock for the Republican party and fodder amongst our international allies.
That's what you should be concerned with mags. You keep bringing up emails as if that hinders her ability to run the fucking country. Creating hate, widening racial divides, lack of policy, and a failed economic plan doesn't bother you a bit but holy shit someone didn't give me a harumph over there and you're all up in arms.
You better figure it out mags because you're not going to win this or the election and you're party is losing the house and Senate in all likelihood in an epic beat down. This is exactly why. I/we are tired of the sophomoric bullshit. Tired of the lies and ignorance. This isn't just about Trump either. It's about sitting down the government and then lying about it assuming everyone is as dumb as they are thinking we'll believe that bullshit. The fake war, the racism, the refusal to do their jobs, the lies on top of lies, the pure ignorance of denying science and climate change and pretentious attitude that makes you think you speak for Americans everywhere and you only speak for the rich whites. That's it.
The real majority has finally had enough and now you'll pay for all your bullshit. Stupidly enough, once this is over, there will even be some of those idiots that completely ignore all evidence to the contrary and want to move to an even more conservative position. That's what you're dealing with mags. A level of ignorance that nobody has seen before and we want to eliminate it.
So my explanation about emails? Who gives a fuck. I didn't care when everyone else did it and i don't care now. You think she's the only human being that likes to keep secrets?

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You keep saying "Your".... kinda funny.

And widening racial divides? Nobody has done more for the country in terms of widening the racial divides than the president in office right now. He is the most divisive president in history. This has been supported by poll after poll. And he was supposed to bring the country together? He made it much worse.

Of course, ramming through the healthcare bill, using parlimentary tricks to do it - even when the people spoke loud and clear that they didn't want it - remember Scott Brown winning in MA, even though he had little chance to win? Doing that was the first step of dividing this country even more.

We need someone that will bring the sides together and be a bit more non-partisan. Unfortunately, the only candidate out there that has a chance to do that is Kasich. And he has no chance to win.

 

[Duff Miver]

You keep saying "Your".... kinda funny.

And widening racial divides? Nobody has done more for the country in terms of widening the racial divides than the president in office right now. He is the most divisive president in history. This has been supported by poll after poll. And he was supposed to bring the country together? He made it much worse.

Of course, ramming through the healthcare bill, using parlimentary tricks to do it - even when the people spoke loud and clear that they didn't want it - remember Scott Brown winning in MA, even though he had little chance to win? Doing that was the first step of dividing this country even more.

We need someone that will bring the sides together and be a bit more non-partisan. Unfortunately, the only candidate out there that has a chance to do that is Kasich. And he has no chance to win.

You're fucking amazing, Maggot. You are consistently completely wrong and totally ignorant of facts and simple reasoning.

FDC is correct when he refers you "your" parroting the Republican lies and mantra. That's exactly what you do. Never on this board have you posted even one original thought.

Obama the most divisive in history? What a laugh. But since you learned nothing in third grade history, you never heard of Abraham Lincoln and the Civil war. and don't know that GWB left office with an approval rating in the 30% range. Or maybe you don't think the Civil war was divisive. :mj07:

"Ramming through" the Affordable Care Act? Well, duh, Maggot, it was passed in both houses of Congress and signed by the President, just like every other Federal law. Regular order of business. Just as the Constitution requires. JFC but you are stupid.

John Kasich is Maggot in disguise. For campaigning,he's pretending to be Mister Moderate, Mister Nice-guy. His actual record (you could look it up if you weren't so fucking dumb) is a right wing nasty guy.

You're even wrong about his chances. It's entirely possible, maybe even probable he will be the compromise Republican candidate after the Trump and Cruz meltdown.

Do the world a favor, Maggot. Stick your head in the nearest toilet and push the handle three times. The amount of shit between your ears won't go down in just one or two.

 

[Mags]

"Ramming through" the Affordable Care Act? Well, duh, Maggot, it was passed in both houses of Congress and signed by the President, just like every other Federal law. Regular order of business. Just as the Constitution requires. JFC but you are stupid.

Obamacare was rammed through using Reconciliation - a rarely used parlimentary trick where only 50 votes are needed to pass a bill. Without reconciliation, we would not be stuck with Obamacare. This is not regular order - this has never been used to pass a bill of this magnitude.

No large US entitlement program has ever been passed without a single minority party vote. Not one. Not Social Security, Not Medicare, Not Medicaid. Just Obamacare.

F*ck, are you dumb Duff Trump. This was jammed through, using tricks that haven't been used before - without any bipartisan support.

YOU ARE JUST FUC*ING DUMB! I know you are really old, and sucking on the gov't tit, but geez, would you just die already?

I normally don't sink to the level of you democrats - but you guys are always name calling and saying shitty things. You can never argue the facts. That is just how you work.

You guys remind me of the Trump supporters. Just white/black trash. Never can have a civil conversation. It always is name calling on your side, and personal attacks. It has to be the lack of education that drives this.

I can see Duff Trump (I call him that because he is as dumb as Trump) being a dumb, old guy, hating everyone, wanting free shit, and unwilling to work for anything.

Yea, I get sick of you, Duff Trump. As is everyone else on MJ's. And I have you on my ignore list (as does like 80% of MJ's because you are such a dick), but for some reason your shit comes through (ignore list does not work). I'm sick of being a dignified Republican - I am going to be a low life Democrat and call it is like it is - you are a DICK. I'd love to meet you some day and shove that walker you use right up your a**. And trust me, I'd do it.

I have never seen a Democrat response on this board that was not a personal attack. Many of us Republicans try to be nice - but the Dems (Duff and FDC) always resort to personal attacks. I guess if you can't win an argument on its merits, you resort to name calling and personal attacks. I get it, that is what Trump does and it is working.

I would think you guys are better than that. I'd hope so. But for some reason, I am sure Duff will respond with more expletives and personal attacks. Because that's all he's got. He can't debate the issues when he is still sucking his thumb and worrying about when he should change his Depends diaper again.

 

[Duff Miver]

You're hilarious, maggot.

Tough guy? Hahaha ababa.

I offered to buy you dinner in Paris, and you are too much of a pussy to show up.

PUSSY. That means coward.

Maggot, the tough guy. Hahaha aha.

You're a sniveling coward.

And a moron.

True, I'm older than you.

Also true, I could send you home crying for your mama.

Mama! Mama! Duff hurt me!!!! Waaaaaaaaa!

 

[fatdaddycool]

Here is the rub. I said set up a private server in her house, which nobody in government has ever done. This has its own set of problems, primarily security risks, and of couse, to remove any email you want and render it gone.

You equate that, every time, to having a personal email. You and I and everyone else in the country have a personal email - in many cases Gmail - but very few of us (if any) have set up a personal server.

But you keep going back to Democratic talking points by trying to say this is the same thing Collin Powell or Condi Rice did. The truth is, it's not. Neither one of those set up a server to control access to their email. They occasionally used a personal email address for business.

But not being able to tell the difference between having a gmail email address or setting up your own system so only you can manage the emails, delete what you want, and not have to provide them to FOIA requests?

I really had thought you were an intelligent guy. Most people can see there is a huge difference here. But you keep trying to say they are the same thing. Which is not very smart.

And you never answered the question: Other than trying to avoid FOIA, why else would she do something like this? She is dirty - just like all the Clintons.

I answered your question. I said I don't give a fuck why, or that she had a private server.
Your entire argument is that you assume she did something illegal or underhanded. You have zero proof of anything of the sort but because you "think" she did, she must have. Is that about right? Do you have any concrete evidence of anything done illegally? No, you don't but that doesn't stop you from calling her dirty and a criminal, but you're the good guy that doesn't resort to name calling. You just say shit like, "I thought you were an intelligent guy" and "you can't understand the difference in Gmail and a private server". I guess I'm supposed to just eat that pretentious, smug little shit attitude you keep throwing at me and pretend that the fucking email means something when it doesn't. Cheney shot a guy in the face, you're okay with that, but holy shit a home server!!!!! Let's jail her.
I'll say it again, only butt hurt Republicans like yourself give a flying fuck about it because it's meaningless.
You are a parrot mags, that's it. You have yet to display anything that would lead me to any other conclusion. Most divisive president, what a moronic statement. Wait let me guess it was Obama that shut down the government right?
Polly wanna cracker?

On another note, don't threaten anyone with bodily harm unless you're willing to back it up and you certainly are not going to do that. So save that shit for your Neo-con pajama and pillow fight nights.


The fact is, she's your next president for 8 years and I couldn't be happier for you. I guess it will be 8 MORE years of economic prosperity, progressive positive change as she continues president Obama's systematic undoing if all the shit the fucking idiot republicans have fucked up time and again. At least she won't have to foot the bill for a war for haliburton built on lies. She won't have to hunt down a war criminal and, fingers crossed, not have to witness another brain dead republican throw a fucking snowball on the floor of congress in shine asinine attempt to deny scientific fact.

So here's the rub, I am an intelligent guy. Extremely intelligent as a matter of fact. Highly educated and very well read. I worked at American Airlines for 24 years and now own my own company and pay all my employees more than $15 per hour. I get free health care through the VA and you're paying for it. You going to call me a freeloader that wants free shit?
I mean, you being the self proclaimed nice guy and all.
Still want that cracker Polly?


You said I always resort to name calling, which also isn't true. I know you don't like facts getting in the way of all that sound judgement you've never displayed so I won't mention the fact I've never considered you "an intelligent guy". In fact I've always thought of you as a stupid little girl. I haven't seen anything to date that would make me change that assessment.



Fucking threatening a senior citizen. What a fucking dick move. Albeit not a surprising one from someone as Arizona ignorant as yourself.




Does that answer your question?





Good.





Hope this helps,
FDC



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[fatdaddycool]

And by the way, Jeb Bush had a private server as did Colin Powell, Howard Dean, and the list goes on and on. More if those pesky facts getting in the way of your ignorance.

Polly wanna cracker?

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[Duff Miver]

On another note, don't threaten anyone with bodily harm unless you're willing to back it up and you certainly are not going to do that. So save that shit for your Neo-con pajama and pillow fight nights.







Hope this helps,
FDC



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LOL!! Don't worry about the Maggot's threats. He's done that before on this board, got called on it, wet his pants and ran away.

The Maggot defines cowardice.

 

[Jaxx]

So here's the rub, I am an intelligent guy. Extremely intelligent as a matter of fact. Highly educated and very well read. I worked at American Airlines for 24 years ?



Hope this helps,
FDC



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So you are the one that screwed up my luggage at DFW?

:facepalm:

 

[fatdaddycool]

So you are the one that screwed up my luggage at DFW?

:facepalm:

I worked in aircraft maintenance but spent most my time with the union. Started on the local executive board, then a three term president and ultimately the national rep for the AA ground workers and maintenance as well as the southwest flight attendants. Most my time was spent in arbitration, meditation, and contract negotiation. So the answer is no, I wasn't responsible for losing your luggage. It was cool how you tried to diminish a 24 year career though. I can certainly see where you'd feel it was necessary to be a dick towards me for absolutely no reason though. I mean, being that you weren't a part of the conversation nor mentioned at any point. Dick.



Hope this helps,
FDC

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