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Mick Onofrio

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I plugged all the numbers into my College Football System for this game tonight and it came out as the Strongets NFL play yet with Miami giving the 6.

The range between all Predictor Systems used was just 1.28 Points, meaning the highest number Miami should be favored by was 9.87 and lowest was 8.59. There is very little range which tells me that all predictor methods are on the same page for this game. I did not add any points for home field advantage. What I came up with as and average Pointspread is:
Miami -9.04, which gives me Miami as the play with a value of 3.04 points. To find the Strength of Play rating I do two things, first I divide the Calcualted Pointspread of 9.04 points into the Range, or difference between all predictor methods which was 1.28 and I get a Rank of 7.06, this is the play ranking without the vegas spread factored in. This is the highest ranknig of the season with Tennessee being a distant 2nd yesterday at 5.44, when I factor in the vegas spread and divide the value of 3.04 points into the range of 1.28 I get 2.38, again, a very high number. At first when the line was 3 I smelled a rat, but now with the line being a number that is a little more fair with all things considered, Miami -6 is the play for me tonight. Some variables that I factored into my decision...

Miami is 22-9 ATS vs AFC WEST opps since 1992
The field looked horrible during the San Fran/ARI game yesterday with ample time to prepare for play, imagine how it will be without the time needed. This benefits Ricky Williams and the Miami O-Line in my opinion. If they can get a good push, Williams is a good enough North-South runner to be a significant factor in the outcome. Conversly, I feel the San Diego Offense is more of an East-West style. With Brees being more effective rolling out of the pocket and Tomlinson needing to cut back to make the first guy miss. A perfect example would be Marcel Shipp who had a great day versus San Fran running in between the tackles yesterday. Miami's Offense is geared more the field conditions that will be in effect tonight. It comes down to the conditions favoring the more physical team and that edge has to go to the Dolphins. I also felt that Miami -3 would have made this a bookie's game and now at -6 there should be enough money on both sides to eliminate that aspect.

Miami -6 (40 times) or 220/200
Miami 24 Sand Diego 15
This is the System's approximate Predicted Score
Actual is Miami 24.42 San Diego 15.38
 

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I can already see the Tide Turning

I can already see the Tide Turning

San Diego is seeing its share of backers now that line jumped to 6, you might even see another deadpoint jump to 7 to reel even more in just to create an even money environment. Books had a lot to lose with Miami tonight had they played and covered under normal circumstances. This creates a level playing field now. Miami is still the play. There is a lot more to play for in the AFC EAST for the Phins, Chargers were out of it from Week One. There might not be one 9-7 AFC playoff team this year. Leaning towards a first half under, as for now, I'm off to Mohegan Sun for some High-limit blackjack under the rocks of the Martini Bar in the Sky. Peace.
 

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Local still has 3

Local still has 3

This guys are idiots
Miami -3 (550/500)
Will be watching from the Sports Bar at Mohegan Sun by the Racebook/Brewery. Might make an appearance at the High Stakes lounge behind the Wolfden where they have a nice plasma TV and I have about $600 in drink vouchers though and food and drink in the HS lounge is free. So I'll most likely be at the Sportsbar using up my vouchers. Looking at some late racebook action as I had a good day ay Great Lake Downs during the 5th and 6th races.
 

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Jockey

Jockey

Colin Skinner, 4th in earnings at Great Lakes Downs with a knack for showing. I've had good luck betting this rider across-the-board.
 

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+700

+700

+200 on Miami -6 and +500 on Miami -3
Predicted score was 24-15, pretty darn close.
Like I said, the variation between predictor methods was almost non-existant with just about every single method having Miami -9.
 

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Mick, yeah great call and very specific. I had looked at the Sagarin ratings and they were similar in conclusion. I dont know if you do similar ratings for college, but the Miami-VTech looks to have a slant favoring a pick on Miami. Would be interested if your system says the same.
 

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I'll look at em

I'll look at em

I don't use Sagarin specifically because of its publicity in the USA Today. I believe Sagarin's Ratings can be an asset if used as a part of something bigger. I don't like his accross the board homefield rating. I believe each team's Home/Away abilities should be looked at individually. I have formulated my own H/A ratings for this very reason in College Football. I am also working on an injury rating that is broken down per position and grades a team's depth at the postitions where injuries have had the most impact. My biggest beef with Sagarin is the ratings are used and abused as Public Knowledge in USA Today, BUT...I love how he uses both ELO and Rheingold together in his calculation because of their balancing out of each other. What I do, as you can see in the first post of this thread, is come up with an average pointspread and find value based on variations of different methods and by drawing comparisons to actual vegas pointspreads. You will see that I have actually drawn out a Strength of Play Ranking. Good Luck and I will have my college plays posted on WED, you will find that your numbers will have similarities to mine based on the fact that we are using predictor methods.
 

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Thanks mick, and just so you know, I use Sagarin and similar rankings in a very limited fashion. From time to time I take notice of a seeming discrepancy of a spread that turns out to be a winner, but Ive yet to find a pure numbers based system that performs over time for myself. Hence the reason for limited use.

Ill keep an eye out for your college picks this week.
 

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No Doubt in my mind" SKEETER" would come thru for ya LOL....sorry just had to "BUZZ" in and say my peace
 

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LOL

LOL

That darn horse...he was running strong and pulled up down the stretch to finish 4th. The Jockey has a knack for 3rd place finishes and he actually had 3 tonight out of 10 races just couldn't get the 4th. Skeeterbuzz is a horse that will net a lot of money at Great Lakes.
 
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