you were right and i was wrong on toledo and B.g. Time did'nt matter to me, actually thought it was a 630 game, but like i said did'nt bet on it but as you saw had a bold opinion on B.g. actually slickwilly and me were playing cards when he turned the t.v. on and saw it was 17-7. Did'nt watch the second half, don't know what happened, but owe you a congratulations on your pick of toledo. I may have been stewing over 2 coattails of central mich. games one a over under and then last weeks game. We can't win them all and i'm man enough to tell you i was wrong on that game, good job and look forward to reading more this week. ARROW