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nice going fletcher. I was wondering what do you rate your "very big" or others compared to your 2* and 3* and 4*? What is your standings according to your stars or best bets?
thanks
thanks
don't go by stats on best bets i go with what i have at the end of the day,would take way to long to explain why and how i choose price,but just add 500 to my 4* for big 1000 more for vey big.
Fletcher,
I have been watching your picks for some time and appreciate the success you have found in whatever manner it is to pick picks. If you have some free time (I know...What's that?) I think many of us, especially myself, would benefit from having your input into money management.
If your time is scarce, I will understand and thank you anyway for your great picks.
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If you're not the lead dog, your view never changes.
I have been watching your picks for some time and appreciate the success you have found in whatever manner it is to pick picks. If you have some free time (I know...What's that?) I think many of us, especially myself, would benefit from having your input into money management.
If your time is scarce, I will understand and thank you anyway for your great picks.
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If you're not the lead dog, your view never changes.
just got a email about this response,let me explain somethings in easy terms,have of you guys are so involved with stats and how many times a guy shits before he takes the field,that you make handicapping harder then it is.
this letter stated that yes you seem to win alot but your return on investment is not that great.
guys let me clue you in on something its better to have a lower roi and higer profit then a high roi but less profit. i could care less about my roi,i go on pure profit starting from o each season.
like i said you make this way to hard at times.
and i know a few very high rollers out here that feel the same as i do on this. what i do is proven to work you can say what you want but i have showen it for more then just 30 games,i have posted my way of playing for all of last season and 1/4 of this one.
willnot and am not going to explain everything i do and why,somethings you have to learn on your own. by doing alittle work.
by the way this wasnot about ron808 his was fine this was just about a stupid email question.what would you reather have a bigger roi or a bigger profit?well i know what i want.
good luck.
this letter stated that yes you seem to win alot but your return on investment is not that great.
guys let me clue you in on something its better to have a lower roi and higer profit then a high roi but less profit. i could care less about my roi,i go on pure profit starting from o each season.
like i said you make this way to hard at times.
and i know a few very high rollers out here that feel the same as i do on this. what i do is proven to work you can say what you want but i have showen it for more then just 30 games,i have posted my way of playing for all of last season and 1/4 of this one.
willnot and am not going to explain everything i do and why,somethings you have to learn on your own. by doing alittle work.
by the way this wasnot about ron808 his was fine this was just about a stupid email question.what would you reather have a bigger roi or a bigger profit?well i know what i want.
good luck.
hey fletcher, continue to do what you want, you are one hell of a capper, not just in baseball. I appreciate your picks everyday! you don't have to explain shit to anyone!!!!
Nor how many times a guy shits before he takes the field!
LMAO at that one Fletch
I have no idea how he does it (having had my a$$ handed to me in bases already) but no denying it works!
LMAO at that one Fletch
I have no idea how he does it (having had my a$$ handed to me in bases already) but no denying it works!
The man wins period. Why do you care how he does it just as long he keeps doing it.
Don't rock the boat let the man do what he does best. He doesn't have post his plays and it is when people start to question his methods that will make him stop posting because who needs that crap.
Don't rock the boat let the man do what he does best. He doesn't have post his plays and it is when people start to question his methods that will make him stop posting because who needs that crap.
I care how he does it.
My desire is to learn more about handicapping. I don't recall anyone critisizing or whining about his picks. It was my impression that this forum was to help everyone learn. Otherwise, it's just everyone boasting, isn't it? The information I seek from this forum is not fuel for a fire, but simply an attempt to learn and maximize my profit.
I mean to offend no one...just stating the facts as they pertain to me.
Carpe Diem!
My desire is to learn more about handicapping. I don't recall anyone critisizing or whining about his picks. It was my impression that this forum was to help everyone learn. Otherwise, it's just everyone boasting, isn't it? The information I seek from this forum is not fuel for a fire, but simply an attempt to learn and maximize my profit.
I mean to offend no one...just stating the facts as they pertain to me.
Carpe Diem!
bigdog get my email from jack and i will call you this week,this is something that would take pages to even try to explain,but i can tell you some of it on the phone,but this goes against probley 89% of the people on here,i still see post saying you can't win inless you play dogs,well the couple of people out here that got me started and some i know donot follow that,just wondering who knows anyone from a group?i know one well a few and one is one of the biggest groups out there for cash flow,willnot give name so dont ask but i will let you in on a hint they play alot of - games and have for along time. and what i play is like a dinner bill to what the play on games. and i don't mean a bunch of bar room players,i would say not to many know these type players because they are not very high keyed and donot want to be knowen ,inless they are in tax trouble you might never here of some people,i am lucky to have someone close to me that is good friends of the wife of one of these types of guys and itsnot lem. but he has helped.so i know what they do and i do isnot the norm,but niether is paying all your bills by handicapping. i would dare to say that 90% of you have a job with a check every other week as your main source of income.so alot of the things that you see that is the norm maynot be the way to live off of this and live good,also what is good for one isnot always good for they other depends on your goals and why you handicapp.
Fletcher,
First of all, let me say that I respect you as a person and think you are a fine handicapper. So, anybody that thinks this is a jab at Fletch, please reject the notion. Snake, you're response was lame. Think about it. Of course Fletcher doesn't have to post his plays. Nobody does. I fully agree with bigdog's statement. This forum is about learning and sharing gambling information and there is MUCH more to making a profit doing this than picking winners. Fletcher has absolutely NO obligation to post ANYTHING. However, I strongly believe that purely posting plays without any plan or method of operation is not beneficial to anybody but the poster himself. But that's Fletcher's choice and his right. He doesn't owe anybody a thing. But in order for anybody else to USE these plays, to make a profit, there has to be a plan and mode of operation tied into it. Simply posting a list of plays and then tallying up the net gain or loss at the end of the day is meaningless, unless, by coincidence you happen to do precisely what Fletcher did WITH the plays. Only Fletcher himself knows precisely what such things as big and very big mean. To anybody else, it's too vague to be of any use and there really is nothing to learn by it...
First of all, let me say that I respect you as a person and think you are a fine handicapper. So, anybody that thinks this is a jab at Fletch, please reject the notion. Snake, you're response was lame. Think about it. Of course Fletcher doesn't have to post his plays. Nobody does. I fully agree with bigdog's statement. This forum is about learning and sharing gambling information and there is MUCH more to making a profit doing this than picking winners. Fletcher has absolutely NO obligation to post ANYTHING. However, I strongly believe that purely posting plays without any plan or method of operation is not beneficial to anybody but the poster himself. But that's Fletcher's choice and his right. He doesn't owe anybody a thing. But in order for anybody else to USE these plays, to make a profit, there has to be a plan and mode of operation tied into it. Simply posting a list of plays and then tallying up the net gain or loss at the end of the day is meaningless, unless, by coincidence you happen to do precisely what Fletcher did WITH the plays. Only Fletcher himself knows precisely what such things as big and very big mean. To anybody else, it's too vague to be of any use and there really is nothing to learn by it...
no my star system for baseball was put up 3times last year and twice this year once for new people at the start and once for some ass,it has never changed
1*=500
2*=1000
3*2000
4*3000
and the only time i lay odds i post it as 3300/3000
ifnot you take 3000 divided by 1.40 if the line is 140 for the win and that is the payoff,if it loses then it is - 3000.
so if people don't know the system its their own fault,this is the last time this year.first its write ups , then it was records,then it was reasons,then money was to hard to track, then it was how do we know info is true on tips, then i made it as simple as can be,now its back to the money, not going through this 2-3 times a season for each sport. like i said i card about my family and me #1 all else is 2nd,and your right i don't have to be here infact it cuts into my work. go to your job and sit and reply to questions why your working dont think you are going to do it all day,well win i put up my plays i am working and it doesnot stop there,i have things going on all over town,i dont just walk in lay 2-6 games for 500 up to 4 dimes at 1 place sometimes i have to go to 3-4 places or more to get my lines i want and to get down a certain amount. i only have a few offshore outs most of mine is cash and credit out here,inless you live here and play the amounts i do you wouldnot undestand it some places will only take 1dime on a total or 1500 on side its up to them,but most places will take more if they know you and you do lots of business with them,and i might have to go back sometimes 3-4 times a day depending on what happens durning that day.so there is much more then most of you can understand. so yes i don't have time to spoon feed some people,the same way you wouldnot at your job.
when it is slow i respond and write some but that isnot evryday and it will never be.
i'm out for the night,and am also not paid to do write ups.
1*=500
2*=1000
3*2000
4*3000
and the only time i lay odds i post it as 3300/3000
ifnot you take 3000 divided by 1.40 if the line is 140 for the win and that is the payoff,if it loses then it is - 3000.
so if people don't know the system its their own fault,this is the last time this year.first its write ups , then it was records,then it was reasons,then money was to hard to track, then it was how do we know info is true on tips, then i made it as simple as can be,now its back to the money, not going through this 2-3 times a season for each sport. like i said i card about my family and me #1 all else is 2nd,and your right i don't have to be here infact it cuts into my work. go to your job and sit and reply to questions why your working dont think you are going to do it all day,well win i put up my plays i am working and it doesnot stop there,i have things going on all over town,i dont just walk in lay 2-6 games for 500 up to 4 dimes at 1 place sometimes i have to go to 3-4 places or more to get my lines i want and to get down a certain amount. i only have a few offshore outs most of mine is cash and credit out here,inless you live here and play the amounts i do you wouldnot undestand it some places will only take 1dime on a total or 1500 on side its up to them,but most places will take more if they know you and you do lots of business with them,and i might have to go back sometimes 3-4 times a day depending on what happens durning that day.so there is much more then most of you can understand. so yes i don't have time to spoon feed some people,the same way you wouldnot at your job.
when it is slow i respond and write some but that isnot evryday and it will never be.
i'm out for the night,and am also not paid to do write ups.
Fletch--
Thank you.
BTW, if the Dodgers lose tonight, they are 0-9 on Tuesdays this year. Stat might be worth a little.
J
Thank you.
BTW, if the Dodgers lose tonight, they are 0-9 on Tuesdays this year. Stat might be worth a little.
J
fletcher, sorry for bringing this whole thing up. I am new to the forum as you can tell and i guess I stirred up the bee hive. I was not asking to be a smart ass but I was too lazy to look up all your post. I have been watching your post here and there and notice that you had some nice numbers. I can't always get access to a computer because of my job so I do miss alot of your later plays. Any way, I need to stop rambling and wasting your time. I really do appreciate your work and posts. I am sincerely sorry for getting you upset.
ron808
ron808
Fletcher, as a lurker here but infrequent poster, I just want to say your plays are much appreciated, and keep up the good work.
As far as anyone else trying to put their finger on how you do things, it seems kind of pointless -- ultimately, your judgment surely comes into play (which will differ from others'), and your comfort level with, say, playing a -220 favorite, is going to be different from others.
Keep up the good work, and I look forward to your continued posts. Thanks again!
As far as anyone else trying to put their finger on how you do things, it seems kind of pointless -- ultimately, your judgment surely comes into play (which will differ from others'), and your comfort level with, say, playing a -220 favorite, is going to be different from others.
Keep up the good work, and I look forward to your continued posts. Thanks again!
ron i said yours wasnot a problem and if you wanted to you could get my email from jack and send me your #,then i could call you and try to explain some of the things to you,as with anything it might not be right for you,but if you want to try it at a small price to start out and try to build off of it i can give you some of the key points.
so dont worry about it,i was talking more about the stupid email.
good luck with everything.
so dont worry about it,i was talking more about the stupid email.
good luck with everything.
Fletcher, If that offer you made to Ron extends to anyone else I would very much be interested in learning more about your handicapping methods and thoughts. I am new to sports gambling and always trying to increase my knowledge and would be very grateful for any information you would be willing to share. Either way thanks for the hard work you do and the sharing of your plays. Sincerely, Kevin
