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DOGS THAT BARK

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What's up--where are all the whiners--

Thought at least we see 3 seconds-spongie-spy or someone bitching about taking twice as long to pump $10 worth of gas now :)
 

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Sponge said prices would drop like a rock before election. He was right - but not for the same reason as he was thinking.

I guess this is the one upside of a bad market. I hope prices drop in proportion to how they went up.
 

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Yeah, if these prices last, we'll probably have to give the oil companies another round of tax breaks and incentives. Very few of us who don't lean to the right surprised to see the price of gas drop leading up to the election. Maybe if Bush's appointees would have done more to help the value of the dollar over the past few years, it could have come down a lot sooner, eh? Looks like his folks have done well enough the past few years to lay low for awhile, now, though.

I doubt they'll last at these prices too long.
 

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It's certainly nothing the gov did to bring them down--as gov was not responsible for increase

--goes to supply/demand

My point wasn't really about gas prices but moreso a gig on the sponge-spy mindset of finding black cloud in every silver lining.

Could imagine in my mind them pumping gas at adjacent pumps--

Spy: Damn this pumps slow

Spongie: No shit--last month took half the time to pump my $10 worth.

Spy: damn GW

Spongie: Things will change after November

:)
 

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What's up--where are all the whiners--

Thought at least we see 3 seconds-spongie-spy or someone bitching about taking twice as long to pump $10 worth of gas now :)

Im soooo happy I am ONLY paying $2.93 FOR PLUS GAS, I now can fill up my tank for $98 versus the $101 it was 2 weeks ago:rolleyes:
I guess I will ruely be happy when gas gets BACK DOWN to $2.00
 

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Im soooo happy I am ONLY paying $2.93 FOR PLUS GAS, I now can fill up my tank for $98 versus the $101 it was 2 weeks ago:rolleyes:
I guess I will ruely be happy when gas gets BACK DOWN to $2.00

Based on your post, you have a tank that is approximately 33 gallons. So yes, the $0.10 drop (based on your math) is not a huge deal, but when you were paying $4+, it is slightly larger than a $3 difference.

Just saying.
 

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Based on your post, you have a tank that is approximately 33 gallons. So yes, the $0.10 drop (based on your math) is not a huge deal, but when you were paying $4+, it is slightly larger than a $3 difference.

Just saying.

yup, but I guess I SHOULD be gleefully happy I now can fill the tank versus putting in $40 and driving around for the day then another $40 the next day. Im not gutting you DB I just didnt see the reason for anyone or everyone to come running happy that the prices slightly dipped. Its like car insurance, when you turn 25 you go to another bracket which saves you about $120 over the course of the year, when I pay out the ass....saving either $6 a week or $20-40 a month really is no big deal. Im looking into the hybrid cars and things of that nature, pay it out now to save plenty in the long run, because we all know the price of gas will shoot up .40 over night sooner or later when theres a snow storm in Iowa some time this year. Everything from storms to foriegners affect gas prices now a day.
 

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Well My high here was $4.03 Today $2.89. Nice but lets get it back to $2.50. That amount I said was the gold winner.
We were being brained washed to just be happy with $2.50. once back there. When you take the .25 cents a gal in 1960 and add inflation est. about $2.10 is right.
In fact DTB I though you posted a number close
to this a while back. And it is still a mistrey how fast it can go up. And how slow it comes back
down. But yes it is nice to spend $11 bucks less for every 10 gal's. This should help over all economy. Most folks will spend that 11 bucks on something else.
 

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Well My high here was $4.03 Today $2.89. Nice but lets get it back to $2.50. That amount I said was the gold winner.
We were being brained washed to just be happy with $2.50. once back there. When you take the .25 cents a gal in 1960 and add inflation est. about $2.10 is right.
In fact DTB I though you posted a number close
to this a while back. And it is still a mistrey how fast it can go up. And how slow it comes back
down. But yes it is nice to spend $11 bucks less for every 10 gal's. This should help over all economy. Most folks will spend that 11 bucks on something else.

Exactly. This is how I feel.

One thing to add: Isn't the overall demand for oil globally much higher than it was in 1960? Has the production raised to its equivalent? I don't know the answer to the second question. If the price today with inflation adjustments should be $2.10, I'm not nearly as concerned about gas prices today. That would mean there is about a 40% bump in price appreciation on a commodity that is in higher demand.

I don't know what the answer is, but I can live with gas under $3 for now. All the whiners out there forget that the innovation ain't going to happen to move us away from oil without the pain of high gas prices.
 

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It's certainly nothing the gov did to bring them down--as gov was not responsible for increase

--goes to supply/demand

My point wasn't really about gas prices but moreso a gig on the sponge-spy mindset of finding black cloud in every silver lining.

Could imagine in my mind them pumping gas at adjacent pumps--

Spy: Damn this pumps slow

Spongie: No shit--last month took half the time to pump my $10 worth.

Spy: damn GW

Spongie: Things will change after November

:)

One thing great about the internet is you can make a very bold prediction, get it right on the button, and then have some right winger writing a post like yours. Hysterical.
 

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Sponge said prices would drop like a rock before election. He was right - but not for the same reason as he was thinking.

:shrug: Democratic congress the last two years :shrug: :SIB
 
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I put up pelosi quote a while back on how they take care of gas--won't hunt it up again--just be happy it's went down--

if you want something to :scared about--
if O gets in and dem majority is enough--who be there to nix their next gas tax--and you can bet your ass it's coming. Remember ole Billy Bob slid last gas tax throught before Rebs got control of congress ;)

Bad thing bout those ole taxes is they never come down.

If it happens I want ya all chanting in unison--"yes we can" :)
 

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--and pelosi just in with Dems new package they like for errrr did she say-"economy stimulous"--

John McCain is keeping his options open.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California and fellow congressional Democrats are pushing a package that could cost as much as $150 billion. Some economists, however, have advised them in recent days that to have a real impact, the total would have to be far larger, as much as $300 billion.

As part of that package, Democrats want to resurrect a $61 billion House-passed measure that included about $37 billion in public works spending, $6 billion to extend jobless benefits, $15 billion to help states to pay their Medicaid bills and $3 billion in food stamp assistance for the poor.

Yep that should create jobs--and economy :rolleyes:
 

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--and a little refresher course on socialist countries and gas prices--
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Gas prices around the world

Think you pay a lot for gas? Perhaps you'd prefer to live in Venezuela.


NEW YORK (CNN/Money) ? Gasoline prices in the United States, which have recently hit record highs, are actually much lower than in many countries. Drivers in some European cities, like Amsterdam and Oslo, are paying nearly 3 times more than those in the U.S.

The main factor in price disparities between countries is government policy, according to AirInc, a company that tracks the cost of living in various places around the world. Many European nations tax gasoline heavily, with taxes making up as much as 75 percent of the cost of a gallon of gasoline, said a spokesperson for AirInc.
In a few Latin America and Middle-East nations, such as Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, oil is produced by a government-owned company and local gasoline prices are kept low as a benefit to the nation's citizens, he said. All prices updated March, 2005.

Nation City Price in USD Regular/Gallon
Netherlands Amsterdam $6.48
Norway Oslo $6.27
Italy Milan $5.96
Denmark Copenhagen $5.93
Belgium Brussels $5.91
Sweden Stockholm $5.80
United Kingdom London $5.79
Germany Frankfurt $5.57
France Paris $5.54
Portugal Lisbon $5.35
Hungary Budapest $4.94
Luxembourg $4.82
Croatia Zagreb $4.81
Ireland Dublin $4.78
Switzerland Geneva $4.74
Spain Madrid $4.55
Japan Tokyo $4.24
Czech Republic Prague $4.19
Romania Bucharest $4.09
Andorra $4.08
Estonia Tallinn $3.62
Bulgaria Sofia $3.52
Brazil Brasilia $3.12
Cuba Havana $3.03
Taiwan Taipei $2.84
Lebanon Beirut $2.63
South Africa Johannesburg $2.62
Nicaragua Managua $2.61
Panama Panama City $2.19
Russia Moscow $2.10
Puerto Rico San Juan $1.74
Saudi Arabia Riyadh $0.91
Kuwait Kuwait City $0.78
Egypt Cairo $0.65
Nigeria Lagos $0.38
Venezuela Caracas $0.12
 

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As part of that package, Democrats want to resurrect a $61 billion House-passed measure that included about $37 billion in public works spending, $6 billion to extend jobless benefits, $15 billion to help states to pay their Medicaid bills and $3 billion in food stamp assistance for the poor.

Yep that should create jobs--and economy :rolleyes:

Just taking your attempted point and examining it closely.

1. $37 billion in public works spending
Would create jobs with additional workers being needed to work on public works projects - or at the very least keep those workers employed and working. Not to mention improving or maintaining our infrastructure which is badly in need of attention, as most realists would agree. This is 60% of the program, and I guess is somehow not important to you when trying to make a point. Job creation and maintenance programs that will also make our lives safer and better. What a concept.

2. $6 billion to extend unemployment benefits. Do you think that these people should just do without at a time when unemployment is rising and more people are losing their jobs? That's fine, if that's your stance, just wondering what the answer should be? Less benefits, fewer jobs, more competition for those jobs, and anyone without a job is considered to be a freeloader and accepting handouts. A convenient stance, for the unaffected, I would say.

3. $15 to states to help pay their Medicaid bills. I don't know exactly what that means, but I'm guessing that Medicaid costs for states and individuals are skyrocketing now, and government assistance from the current regime is not helping that, if anything is undercutting it. We know the current regime is against Medicare and Medicaid negotiating for better pricing on behalf of Americans on the program, which is a huge contributor to rising costs - not to mention being against any regulation or control over price for those providing the cost risers to the program. Seems pretty anti-Americans, to me, unless you are for the ones benefiting from the perfect storm of money-making sponsored by the current administration.

4. $3 billion in food stamp assistance to the poor. Less than 5% of the proposal for this, which is the same argument we have had for a long time. Rising unemployment, rising costs for food, and anything else a low income earner has to choose from, and fewer opportunities to get out of the situation you are in. This money is a concern to some, when we throw away this same amount every week in Iraq, on behalf of people who aren't even Americans. Interesting...and those that argue FOR that spending don't seem to qualify who is benefiting from that money, and I'd guess there are a lot of people who are that don't even like America and wish to subvert it.

But, this money bothers you, I guess. To each their own. Your premise about creating jobs is arguable at worst, and pretty much wrong, in the majority of the bill, in my opinion.
 

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Your premise about creating jobs is arguable at worst, and pretty much wrong, in the majority of the bill, in my opinion.

I don't know the history between the two of you, but I am reading that there is some. I may be missing the point due to my lack of knowing these details.

But let me ask this question: Do you feel that higher taxes and the federal government are what creates jobs?
 

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Gas price around the world. One missing Iraq 40cents. True story some Europe countries have taxes on gas over 3 bucks. That keeps them honest on waist. The good news part of that story is they have much lower country taxes and not so many fees.
 
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