Gay adoption: A new take on the American family

WhatsHisNuts

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I'm kind of torn on this issue. On one hand, I think it is great that people are willing to take on an orphan and raise them as their own. On the other hand, I wonder what the psychological effects are on the child. I guess we won't know how it really affects the child until they grow up.
 

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I'm kind of torn on this issue.

It's an easy one for me.

As a follower of Christ, I'm totally opposed to homosexuality...no matter how it's adorned.

I don't hate the sinner, just the sin.
 

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Isn't banking a sin in the Bible too? Funny how this one got left behind but the other prejudices linger on. Actually, it's not that funny. It's sad and rather pathetic. It's about convenience for believers, not morals. This is exactly why I left my Catholic education/upbringing behind...I've outgrown it. I can't read the Bible the way the church tells me to. I take it as it is, and that is poor/outdated guide to living one's life, and I can do better.
 

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This is exactly why I left my Catholic education/upbringing behind...I've outgrown it. I can't read the Bible the way the church tells me to.

Pardon my ignorance, but I was unaware Catholics took bibles to church.
 

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It's an easy one for me.

As a follower of Christ, I'm totally opposed to homosexuality...no matter how it's adorned.

I don't hate the sinner, just the sin.
Every parent of adopted children sins, where do you draw the line?

How would you organize and monitor it?

Just curious.
 

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??????????

I dunno. Never heard that one before.

But if I was God, I'd make banking a sin.

Why?

Figures lie and liars figure.

The Bible barely suggests the sin of homosexuality. But the way the church talks about it, yould think it was paramount to murder. ...Jesus, himself, never even mentions anything about it. Jesus is far more critical of "bankers".

If a person were to base their faith only from reading the New Testament without filtering it through a church, then I doubt they would conclude anything wrong with homosexuality.

As for adopting kids, I'm all for gay couples doing that. I'll wager that those kids end up better adjusted than most.
 

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For starters, one has to recognize sin for what it is.

And it's my understanding sin is anything that is displeasing to God.

If you're the best homosexual parents the world has ever known, the basis of your relationship is still drenched in sin and putting the cart before the horse doesn't change things.

God hates sin.

You said every parent of adopted children sins...I would go even further and say every parent is a sinner. I'm one of them.

I'm nowhere near smart enough to organize or monitor anything let alone behavior that is an abomination to God himself.

That's why I follow Jesus Christ.

John 14:6 - "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
 

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But Jesus never says homosexuality is a sin. It's only in obscure older scripture - the same stuff that says we should sacrifice animals.

I believe homosexuality is genetic in 95% of cases. It's as natural for gays to love their own gender as it is for straight people to love the opposite gender. There is plenty of evidence to and basic logic to support this.

Whoever God is - he/she/it is not going to waste energy discriminating against a born a trait.
 

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For starters, one has to recognize sin for what it is.

And it's my understanding sin is anything that is displeasing to God.

If you're the best homosexual parents the world has ever known, the basis of your relationship is still drenched in sin and putting the cart before the horse doesn't change things.

God hates sin.

You said every parent of adopted children sins...I would go even further and say every parent is a sinner. I'm one of them.

I'm nowhere near smart enough to organize or monitor anything let alone behavior that is an abomination to God himself.

That's why I follow Jesus Christ.

John 14:6 - "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."


Unfortunately Jesus isn't around to organize our adoption laws.

So, it's up to us, to do it ourselves.
 

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In Europe this wouldn't be a big deal. Only in the US do we put so much emphasis on sexual orientation. My God, good people raise children. Bad people raise children. Does it really matter if a kid has two mommies or two daddies.

There are good gay parents and bad gay parents. Chances are if your raised by good gay parents you will turn out okay. If your raised by bad gay parents, like Intense Operator, you will turn out bad.

First I wanted to come up to Chicago to throw his ass around some parking lot. Now I call his parents gay. Lordy, Lordy, whats he gonna do now.

Eddie
 

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??????????

I dunno. Never heard that one before.

But if I was God, I'd make banking a sin.

Why?

Figures lie and liars figure.

Yes, usury is a sin mentioned in the Bible. Like I said, it isn't one of the things the church talks about. Perhaps isolating and shunning that group of people doesn't fit their agenda.
 

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For starters, one has to recognize sin for what it is.

And it's my understanding sin is anything that is displeasing to God.

If you're the best homosexual parents the world has ever known, the basis of your relationship is still drenched in sin and putting the cart before the horse doesn't change things.

God hates sin.

You said every parent of adopted children sins...I would go even further and say every parent is a sinner. I'm one of them.

I'm nowhere near smart enough to organize or monitor anything let alone behavior that is an abomination to God himself.

That's why I follow Jesus Christ.

John 14:6 - "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

I eat meat on Fridays.

There's no hope for me.:com:
 

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preference is not a choice as the "Bible Thumpers" would have u believe. If there is a God he made sexual preference as part of peoples genetic make up...u are born with it. Spent years around Dance and Theater groups which are predominantly gay and when the question of sexual preference came every person i ever discussed it with stated that when the decision of "Hair Pie" or Balls Across The Chin" came up they were perfectly clear that they pref the latter.
Studies have proved and i have watched children from early age prefer feminine toys and exhibit feminine behavior and in ev instance they grew up gay.
And no Buddy the are not Filled with the Devil at age 3.
I don't know what ev is so concerned about Gays........Most Right Wingers are Latent Gays.they just quiver at the thought of sticking it up someones "Fudge Pot"
 
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