George Bush Is Behind This!

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I will have all the angles of the conspiracy figured out sooner or later. Freaking gas prices are dropping and I know Bush and all his oil cronies are making sick money while this is happening. Where is the press!? I've seen the new great white hope Obama and the other Tomato (ketchup) Guy on my Sunday shows and they mentioned NOTHING of this CONSPIRACY as it is becoming more intense. I'm hearing on my local radio that parts of Indiana ARE UNDER $2 A GALLON!! WTF!! I'm sure that genius Al Franken is delving deep into what is going on here but I have never listened to his show. Hillary and her $$ is most likely getting closer to the facts as well. Buddy even stopped giving his updates on the price of gas in Pittsburgh, though I don't know how many Pittsburghites actually drive. He's probably tied down in his chair with his hands handcuffed so as to not post about gas prices on the net.
 
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'bout the same drop as last year at this time. Not much new under the sun....



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Over 60,000 letters poured into the Energy Department last week in protest of the Bush administration's appointment of former ExxonMobil CEO Lee Raymond and the National Petroleum Council to chart America's energy future.

When Raymond retired from ExxonMobil, he recieved a golden parachute of compensation and retirement packages estimated at $398 million in total.
 
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Since we're having fun with this one...how about this? Really only three pertinent stages to this conspiracy...very simple.

1. Invite oil company execs to White House to develope energy policies, and enact tax credits and breaks. Cheney, take the lead on that one. Make sure Halley-Berry-Burton gets some really cool, expensive programs. Don't worry about the ledger or accounting, just git 'errrrrrrrr duuuuuun.

2. Oil company execs hike prices to astronomical levels, playing up all possible reasons into a perfect storm of rising price logic. Everyone, keep quiet during this period, except to blame world events, democrats and terra-rism.

3. Approaching elections, oil execs drop prices dramatically. Execs, administration and Republican candidates take credit for working on problem and pointing out how the drop is a part of the wonderful economy "we" created due to tax cuts for upper 1%.

4. (Optional). Hope like Heck nobody can figure out the plan until it is once again too late.
 
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GW You might add Hurricanes to list---remember the sky is falling crew and plague of Hurricanes we would be hit with.Hmmm has there been one hit this year? No wait--its got to be Rove and GW controling them in election year:

P.S. You think Gore isn't pissed we didn't have some major ones to back up chicken little book sales. :)
 

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Global Cooling

It has been more than 30 years since Newsweek magazine warned readers of what it called "ominous signs that the earth's weather patterns have begun to change dramatically" and a "drastic decline in food production." The culprit in that 1975 story ? global cooling.
Now Newsweek's Web site is offering an explanation for what it calls a "spectacularly wrong" prediction ? along with the one in 1992 that said a new Ice Age could be triggered by the greenhouse effect. It says the stories weren't journalistically inaccurate ? they were just premature.

And it cites a British scientist who says fears of global cooling never approached the widespread scientific consensus that supports the greenhouse effect today. Still, Newsweek says it's just as well that one of the possible solutions from the 1975 story was not followed ? that we pour soot over the arctic ice cap to help it melt. :)
 

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Anyone know how much of the world's oil "Big Oil" actually controls?
 

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"In the 1960's 85% of known reserves worldwide were fully open to international oil companies. That number is now 16%. The rest of the worlds oil and gas is either restricted or entirely cordoned off. In 1979 U.S. and British companies accounted for 27.8% of the worlds oil and gas production. By 2004 their share was just 14%."
Source...BUSINESS WEEK..May 15 2006

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Conspiracy Theories Abound as Oil Prices Fluctuate

By Steven Mufson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 6, 2006; Page D01

In mid-May with gasoline prices at $2.95 a gallon and rising, 15 percent of Americans listed high fuel prices as their top concern, outstripping terrorism. And much of the public seemed ready to vent its wrath on President Bush and the Republican-led Congress.

By early September, though, with the nationwide average at $2.73 a gallon and falling, only 5 percent of those polled said that the price of gas was the single most important issue, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll. Since then, the price of gasoline has fallen even further, now down about 70 cents a gallon from its peak in August -- with only a month before the elections.

Coincidence?

A lot of Americans don't think so. "This has been huge fodder for talk radio," said Tyson Slocum, director of energy programs at Public Citizen, who says he has appeared on about 15 radio shows focusing on whether the Bush administration is manipulating oil prices before the congressional elections. "I don't think the influence is as explicit as some people out there are alleging. But all markets are susceptible to politics, and oil is no exception."

Generally, oil experts, executives and traders cite other explanations for the recent steep fall in prices, including the easing of anxieties about possible armed conflict with Iran, the flight of financial speculators, ample oil inventories and softening U.S. demand. Prices, they say, are the results of decisions made by people ranging from pension fund managers and oil executives to traders and ministers from the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries.

But the roller coaster in oil prices this year without any supply disruption has fueled conspiracy theories about why gasoline prices went up and why they are coming down now. After seeing a Washington Post report about oil traders closely scrutinizing supply and demand, one reader responded online: "LOL!!!! They're looking at the approach of November elections!!!!! Care to wager how soon after the elections a 'catastrophic' event will occur to re-inflate the prices at the pump?????"

CNN anchor Miles O'Brien dismissed the conspiracy talk in a Sept. 25 gabfest. "Some bloggers are putting those two things together and, you know, this is the grassy knoll group," he said. More-sober analysts are also skeptical. "Paranoia is as American as apple pie," says Chas W. Freeman, former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia. "This is all Michael Moore on steroids."

But politics have always flowed with oil. Here are some of the leading theories, and some possible explanations, for what is happening in the volatile oil markets.

A Favor to Bush?

According to this theory, the Saudi government is doing Bush a favor by trying to bring down prices before the election. The evidence? Some say the Saudi government has a long-standing relationship with the Bush family. They also cite the 2004 book by author and Washington Post assistant managing editor Bob Woodward, "Plan of Attack," which said that then-Saudi ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, promised to keep oil production high enough to moderate fuel prices and bolster the U.S. economy during the presidential election year.

Now, with crude oil prices tumbling and OPEC members calling for production cuts, Saudi officials -- at least publicly -- are saying they will wait until the next meeting of OPEC oil ministers, which happens to be scheduled for December. "OPEC will be meeting I think within a month or two to review these factors, and we will discuss these things with countries like Venezuela and Nigeria," the Saudi ambassador to the United States, Prince Turki al-Faisal, told reporters after giving a speech in Washington on Wednesday.

But oil traders are worried that Saudi Arabia won't wait. Yesterday, oil prices closed slightly higher on reports that OPEC, including Saudi Arabia, has decided to cut output. A well-placed trader in Europe said the kingdom has quietly trimmed its output to 9.15 million barrels a day, from 9.3 million barrels a day, and that it has been talking about shaving a bit more if other OPEC members also cut back to stop the rapid slide in oil prices.

Most oil experts say Saudi Arabia generally tries to avoid conflict with the U.S. government, whether it is run by a Bush, another Republican or a Democrat. And Saudi oil policy opposes sharp upward or downward price changes so that consumers don't switch to non-petroleum fuels.

"Saudi production levels are keyed to moderating price increases, that's true," said Freeman, who was in Saudi Arabia during President George H.W. Bush's administration. At that time, Saudi Arabia opened its spigots to dampen prices as the United States prepared to free Kuwait. "But they don't really control them anymore," Freeman added. "[Saudi oil minister] Ali Naimi can't fine-tune prices for the purposes of influencing elections even if he wanted to." Freeman said that based on his conversations with Saudi leaders in 2004, "they would have been perfectly prepared to work with someone else if George Bush had been defeated."

The Goldman Touch

According to this theory, Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. has asked his former partners at Goldman Sachs to dump gasoline futures to drive down pump prices and boost GOP prospects in November.

Goldman runs the most important commodity index, which serves as the basis for about $60 billion in investment funds. And the firm has been selling gasoline holdings. "Goldman has been liquidating its gasoline position, and that's put a lot of pressure on prices," said Citigroup Inc. oil analyst Doug Leggate. "It's a very large part of why gasoline has fallen."

Whether the sales are part of a conspiracy is another question. Paulson has said he severed all ties to Goldman when he became Treasury secretary -- and there are Democrats at Goldman, too.

Goldman has issued three press releases about its sales. In June, it said that because of U.S. government regulations it would replace unleaded gasoline futures, which will be terminated, to futures in reformulated gasoline used in blending with ethanol. But then on Aug. 9, Goldman said it would reduce the gasoline portion of its index, sparking a steep one-day plunge in prices on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Goldman sources said yesterday that the proportion of gasoline in the index has been reduced by two-thirds.

Tapping the Reserve

Some Americans think the Bush administration is secretly selling stocks from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, the 687.7 million barrel emergency stockpile stored in Louisiana salt caverns.

Normally, the federal government is slowly building the reserve. But in April, Bush said he would take the unusual step of suspending additions to the reserve in the face of soaring gasoline prices. From May to September, according to an Energy Department Web site, there was no net addition to -- or subtraction from -- the reserve.

The Big-Oil Theory

Are the big oil companies lowering prices to help the Republicans? "Politicians will fulminate about things, but it's the market that sets the price," said John Felmy, chief economist of the American Petroleum Institute.

But Public Citizen's Slocum argues that an indictment of BP PLC traders for allegedly trying to corner the propane market shows that oil giants can sway prices. Furthermore, he noted, big oil companies have political preferences. He said that 81 percent of the $63 million in political contributions made by major U.S. oil companies since 2001 have gone to Republicans.

But Slocum thinks the recent price drop isn't the result of a plot by big oil companies. Instead, he points to the flight of money invested by financial "speculators" in oil markets. "Do I think Karl Rove or George Bush is whispering in the ears of the oil companies? No. That's silly," Slocum said. "But some folks in the government sent strong signals to the speculators. Was that related to the elections? I don't know."
 

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it's been cloudy here in san diego the past two days

i bet fking bush is behind that one as well, shit not to mention that i've got detroit tonight and now st louis is ahead....you know, bush was a former baseballl guy and is also probably behind that one as well
 

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Yeah, but who is behind leaving people high and dry after the Hurricane ??

Who is behind all the young dead soldiers?

And finally who turned their head and looked the other way with that Faggot republican child molester foley?

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Ya know Gurbles or Gerbels or goebbels or however you spell that retards name defended Der Fuhrer down to his last swallow. Just like some of you" Republican die in the bunker maniacs "

Election day is coming, enjoy your republican SS downfall on the night of broken gas pumps! :142smilie

everytime you die in the bunker republicans pull the republican lever just think about all that cash you will be paying to fill your panzers.. aren't you glad you nincampoops voted for this dumbell..:mj07:

Yeah , we all know, But Bubba Lied about a BJ:mj07:
 
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i just don't get some of yas who are getting your A-Holes salted like the rest of us , yet you can't admit that you voted for some dummy who said The Arabs are our allies.And tried to turn our American Ports over to them for money.

I WILL NEVER FORGET THAT STATEMENT!:nono: when he said they are our allies and he would veto any bill that would block these scumbag arabs from taking over our American Ports !

Some motto your boy has ! You republicans must really love phucking everybody in site and swearing it's patriotic.

You republicans have no shame...and remember that he said this about these scumbags are our allies...

Well which way is it boys?
 
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Can people honestly be this braindead and not think this drop has to do with the elections? No wonder this country elects the biggest crooks available. News flash fellas. Cheney and Bush have always been involve in the oil business. To think they have no knowledge of what is going on leads me to believe i live in the most naive country on the face of this earth. Just un freaking believable. under two bucks all across the nation fellas right before the election. we are 210 here and i just fill my car up just enough so i can get were i want and then election day i will fill up everything i own. Trust me people you might want to join me. As for the people who think this is a coincident, you might need a check up from the neck up next time you go see a doctor.
 

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Bush administration's appointment of former ExxonMobil CEO Lee Raymond and the National Petroleum Council to chart America's energy future.

When Raymond retired from ExxonMobil, he recieved a golden parachute of compensation and retirement packages estimated at $398 million in total.


Fat Bastard at it again!


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Lee Raymond


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Fat Bastard


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We're SCREWED!




Goodnight ladies, ladies goodnight
It's time to say goodbye
Let me tell you, now, goodnight ladies, ladies goodnight
It's time to say goodbye

Ah, all night long you've been drinking your tequilla rye
But now you've sucked your lemon peel dry
So why not get high, high, high and
Goodnight ladies, ladies goodnight



Okole Maluna!
 

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Pujo

you got learn to get over your shyness

don't hold back, tell us what's really on your mind

(thanks for the heads up on what I'm missing out on)
 

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"the bunker"
and guess what?.....the gwb assasination film is coming out!!!.....:spotting: :clap: :toast: :mj06: :s6: :em71:

and i have the nyt`s review....

"evil chimpy is whacked and the blame is pinned on a saintly syrian fall guy...

...it's a conspiracy by cheney and the neo-cons and the cia and wal-mart and the pentagon to eliminate bush (who was always just their dupe) and take over the government and impose a fascist dictatorship on america....

but,cair and the aclu ride to the rescue
, leading to the impeachment of cheney, the destruction of halliburton and the rescue of princess leia "...........

who was the assassin?....a white neocon joo-christian klan redneck neo-nazi corporate ex-marine....of course...

and if that wasn`t enough to give you libs a woody,theres a docudrama short that proceeds the movie....it`s about the islamization of england.....in the movie, the queen abdicates, king charles converts to islam without coercion, and the single malt scotch industry is forced to move to eureka, in northern california......

happy wet dreams,my progressive brothers....

i find the assassination of the u.s. president so........thought provoking....:yup
 

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Intense,

i am terribly sorry i posted in your intuitive thread ! Thanks for staying up all nite to come up with a clever monologue.

i didn't know you were starting your couch service today. but i just had to lie down and tell someone.. you understand, cause you know everything!
 

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(thanks for the heads up on what I'm missing out on)


I was referring to the Political Forum in general.

Place has too many psychos. I end up becoming one reading the banter in here (and coming across very poorly).

This thread ended up being a good example.

It's all yours Pujol. Knock yourself out.
 
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