went under 144 in the first game for a small play, and made an almost obligatory play on msu + the 5. didnt intend on 'adding' anything to michigan state for the final four but the more i just think that game over, the more i think msu's physical style is going to bother carolina. heels survived nova and wisconsin because neither could match their talent and both ran out of gas. msu is deep and will take this to the wire. also think the 1st game will have a lot more defense than people think.