GOING PAY!!!

beantownjim

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(JMIZEUS DID YOU SAY YOU WERE GOING PAY OR GOING GAY)

BOYS LETS GET THIS ALL OUT IN THE OPEN AND CUT THE SH-T.HERE IN BOSTON WE HAD THIS LOCAL GUY NAMED (BOB GAMERE) HE LOST HIS SPORTS JOB AT A LOCAL T.V. STATION BUT PEOPLE ASSUMED HE WAS KNOWLEDABLE ABOUT SPORTS SO HE OPENED UP A SERVICE PLAY FOR 35 DOLLARS A PICK AND ADVERTISED IN THE BOSTON HERALD.THIS GUY BOB GAMERE WAS A WELL EDUCATED MAN GRADUATE OF HOLY CROSS SO HE STUDIED HIS PLAYS.WELL HIS SERVICE LASTED ABOUT A YEAR THINK ABOUT IT I PAY BOB GAMERE 50 DOLLARS FOR A PLAY I BET 800 ON THE GAME AND I LOSE DOES ANYBODY EVER CALL BACK A SERVICE AFTER A LOSS GET REAL FELLAS THIS SERVICE BULLSH-T IS THE BIGGEST SCAM IN THE WORLD.HALF THE GUYS GIVE 10 PEOPLE ONE SIDE AND THE OTHER 10 PEOPLE THE OTHER SIDE AND WHOEVER WINS THEY CALL BACK THE NEXT NIGHT LOOKING FOR A FEE.THE LAST TIME I SAW BOB GAMERE I WAS BUYING HIM A BEER AT SUFFOLK DOWNS AND LENDING HIM FIVE DOLLARS SO HE COULD BOX 2 HORSES THIS IS WHAT HIS GAMBLING BUSINESS DID FOR HIM AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER HE IS A WELL EDUCATED MAN SO WHAT WOULD AN IDIOT BEEPER SELLER LIKE JMIZEUS DO.STICK TO YOUR PAPER ROUTE JMZEUS AND LET ME GIVE YOU A TIP COVER THE PAPERS ON RAINY DAYS.

ONE LAST THOUGHT BOYS IF I COULD MAKE A LIVING BETTING THE GAMES WHY WOULD I WANT DEADBEATS LIKE THE GUYS IN THIS FORUM WITH ME(THINK ABOUT IT) NO OFFENSE BOYS

JMIZEUS HOW ABOUT ONE LAST FREE PICK FOR THE BOYS WHO DO YOU LIKE IN THE TWINS AND YANKEES GAME TOMORROW (SANTANA OR MUSSINA) THIS F-CKING KID WOULDNT KNOW A BASEBALL FROM A SOFTBALL AND YOU WANT HIS PICKS
 

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the madjack class clown.

now come on buddy you know you got a good pager from me,so why say you didnt?
baseball?hmmm funny i use to play pro-ball awhile back, but so yes i do believe i know the game well.
gay, not something you would want to say face to face w/me jimmy boy,now would you

gl as far as tomorrow that is another day :)
 

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Hey Mize........

Go get em bro!
Will miss your perspective
You have a good sense for this game and should do well!

gl
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Good morning mister sunshine, you brighten up my day
Come sit beside me, in your way
I see you ev'ry morning, outside the restaurant
The music plays, so nonchalant, ahh

Lonely days, lonely nights, where would I be without my sports service
Lonely days, lonely nights, where would I be without my sports service
Lonely days, lonely nights, where would I be without my sports service
Lonely days, lonely nights, where would I be without my sports service
Lonely days, lonely nights, where would I be without my sports service

Good morning mister sunshine, you brighten up my day
Come sit beside me, in your way,
 

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Ahhh yes with the winding tune of the Bee Gees fading off to some distant horizon we see another capper go pay, sure wish I could have benefited enough off of him while he was free to afford a couple of months of the service. Mize I wish you no ill will but to say good luck somehow I don't feel it as so many stay behind trying to help. I complimented another capper on this site just last week for giving me the confidence to pay full strength a play I had a feel for before I read his write up. Below is a cut & paste of that statement of appreciation:

You gave me the confidence to play it Nolan ! Thank you !

posted by me at:

09-27-2004, 10:46 PM


Isn't it amazing how the words of this song from so long ago ring true today!
 

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(I USED TO PLAY PRO BALL SO YES I DO KNOW THE GAME JMEZEUS) ART SCHLEISTER PLAYED PRO BALL AND WAS A NUMBER 1 DRAFT CHOICE AND I GUESS HE KNEW THE GAME HUH THATS WHY HE IS SITTING IN THE CAN.KNOWING THE GAME MEANS SH-T YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE COACHING STAFF AND THERE PLAN FOR THE UPCOMING WEEK.MIZE IF YOU WERE REALLY SMARTY YOU WOULD DISAPPEAR ON GO OUT VEGAS AND MAKE A NICE HONEST LIVING NOT GET CAUGHT UP WITH SOME MICKEY MOUSE SCAM.
 

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Now Count you have been a help and I am not sure I ever told you thanks so I will say it now.


Thank You!


(Are you next ?)
 

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good luck 2 things first read what gibb and yyz wrote, and 2nd this is not as easy as people think you must have very good c.service and they must be able to be dealt with one on one not as a mass bunch of just people paying you money which most do, you need to have a number to be reached at all times to help out clients who have a question or different line, and need to manage their money for them which no-one really cares much about, i do they are people putting trust into you and need to be treated like a investor not a number. the time is way more then you can grasp but you will see if you are going to do it right, it takes your weekends and vacations away for the most part , you have to be there for them when they need you it is very much something if done rights that will eat up a to of your time, and it has to be done like that or you will just be another person that does not give a shit about the business rep. which sucks to start with or your investors, i know you as a person so know you can be trusted ,i don't say that about many people in the service.

it is a whole new ball game when dealing with others peoples money and expect to get stiffed and scammed yourself if you don't watch out, i get stiffed at least 3 times a season by trying to be nice then they pull the never pay shit on payments, so i really only take people i know and i also talk to every client to make sure we are a good fit for each other because i have a nice base of long term people who have been with me some over 5 years and won't let some college kid come in and mess the investors i have which most are all over 40 and middle class and i know everyone of them 1 on 1. sometimes you have to say no to the money if the fit can hurt your other investors , being loyle is number 1 not looking for the fast cash, if you under cut prices to make money your clients will be just what they paid, trouble and want the world and very young not looking to invest but looking to make the fast score and it does not work like that, nothing comes fast in gambling and if that is what they think and you take them just to make money you will regret it the whole time. Money is not made over night or on 1 game or season, it is a long term investment tyope person you want who looks at this as another part of their stocks or ira would never take a young kid you really need to remember that. some people will take anyone you can ask my clients all adults middle class up business people , i have turned down many. you have to have a plan what you want and what you can do if you really want to be legit and not another black eye on a already horse shit looking business because of scammers and they out number real services by 80 to 85%. never promise something you can't do or keep and never say you will win, you don't know that till game is over. that is the best advice i can give to you i have been in this before i was at madjacks a few years before , also never forget where you came from, some people can't pay for a service and some just won't because they have been burnt or they do fine on their own, but you still need to help out those people , not turn and say it was nice thanks and good bye. if i had to lose investors over posting plays on madjacks real plays then so be it, being loyle does not always mean making a sale.

Like i said i know you and have for a long time, and if i did not trust you would not even waste my time telling you these things. it is stresfull when it is not your money very stressfull and you need to learn how to deal with it or you will burn and clients will just see another black eye on this business. hope it works for you but like i said it is hard if you really care about your investors, your investing their money not gambling it and way to many gamble it and could give a rats ass if they win or not once they have got paid.

good luck and be ready to work and be in for the good weeks as well as the bad weeks and please don't for me steping out and saying i trust you give games of the year month and week, all of that is bull shit and it is a shame the ones who fall to that scam are the people who are in a hole and are trying to get out the wrong way and that will make them deeper in a hole if you lose and don't manage their money. every week 10-15 scabs has a game of the day week year, conf game of the year 60 degree and raining game of the year, it is all bullshit, allgames are just that a game where no-one knows who will win till it is over.

good luck

Eric
 

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Some on here cut on Eric because of the way he communicates but the MAN just said such a mouthful and it comes from the heart and I have been there and done that (PAY SERVICE) in a partnership with another guy accross the country. We worked with a group of 4 - 10 players, SOME wouldn't SHOP lines, some wouldn't MANAGE their money right like we told them, and some would NOT PLAY all of our games because it went against their home team and some would ADD their own sides or totals to the mix.

Hmmm let's review:

SHOP

MANAGE MONEY

NOT PLAY ALL PLAYS

ADD YOUR OWN PLAYS

bottom line when the fee was due next month sure enought they said " IHAVEN'T COLLECTED ONCE FROM MY MAN"

ALSO BIG PROBLEM is getting on a HOT service mid-season when the look like world beaters then WHAM they take a 2 week or more down turn. IT HAPPENS just like sh-IT HAPPENS.

HELL even I have done that as I did once with ERIC, my MLB totals are very solid but my sides often suck so I sign on with Eric he has 2 bad weeks and ouch I get hurt but hey guess what the next FOUR WEEKS he wins but the guy that BLOWS his wad won't be there to reap the harvest!!!!! EVEN I who preach money management can fall guilty to such poor discipline.

WAY TO GO ERIC for telling it like it is !


Even with the good season Count had in MLB IF you jumped on about the 21st of AUG you would have lost 13 UNITS the next week or so and then went sideways for four more days only climbing back up 1 UNIT.


BUT BOTTOM LINE A +35.87 UNIT season is nothing to make fun of that is a solid profit but it took him a long season and staying the course.

Others results would differ due to varing lines but all in all the player that followed and GROUND IT OUT the entire seasone made money.


TAKE IT FROM AN OLD FARM BOY RUNNING A SERVICE IS LIKE HAVING A HERD OF MILK COWS,

you have to be there every day to milk them, you are MARRIED to them and the same goes for a Sports Service and the clients you have.

Geno
 

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i will never forget that geno, we had ran off 12 straight weeks and told you i would lose sometime it was the all-star special 2 years ago and i said when i lose it happens about 4-6 times a year and it happens in 2 week cycles was upfront with you and we talked knew each other before but still wanted you to know everything that i do and damn first 2 weeks you lost, i felt so bad I emailed geno almost everyday or talked on phone a few times , i was hurt because it was the luck of the bad streak which i have like i said 4-6 a year and last about 2 weeks , i cut back or take off for a few days to clear head, but told geno i would give him the whole year of all sports if i did not come back, that is how bad i felt for him, it hurts when that happens on a brand new person it has happend 2 times to me both in baseball, but if you care it bothers you for a good week because you talk to someone make sure the fit is right and the bad streak hits and all my investors know we will have 4-6 bad runs in a whole year, but nothing sucks more then when it happens right on a new investor who you have built a bond with before any money was exchanged, it is the worst of the worst when that happens if you have feelings for your investors. old ones are use to it , still gets under my skin when we hit the streak of shit but to have it happen to a brand new person who you spent time with to make sure things will work for both is as bad as it gets, and it will happen to you so have to be able to live with the nights of not sleeping good because a new investor just lost 2 weeks in a row aafter a nice run, new we would be fine but still hurts as a person inside if you really care about your investors. geno was not worried and he tried to get me to forget about it and get some rest, but it is hard to rest when something like that happens does not happen much only twice to me in almost 8 years now but those stick with you and have to be able to get over it after a few days , and you will then get back to thinking straight, and if it does not eat at you then you have no heart or care for investors,all you want is the money, but like i said i have knowen you for a long time not just from the net so just trying to let you know everything i can to help you not make the wrong moves or have a stroke, and let you know what to expect. you run a clean ship and be upfront and talk to investors you will be fine, and if you see you are not cut out for this then cut the cord don't try and prolong it because either you can deal with other peoples money or you can't, it will never change and you will be sick i know you and clients will be down that much more. hope it never comes to that but if it does you need to do the right thing and say hey I was wrong , this is way more stress and harder then just useing my own money to invest.

good luck and like i said don't forget your roots. nothing is worse then that IMO.

later will talk by phone soon

Eric
 

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ERIC LET ME ASK YOU A BOTTOM LINE QUESTION.IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO MAKE A LIVING GAMBLING WHY RELY ON THE MICKEY MOUSE CHUMP CHANGE A DEGENERATE,DEADBEAT GAMBLER MIGHT GIVE YOU FOR THE COUPLE OF PLAYS YOU MIGHT GIVE HIM.ARE YOU SUCH A NICE FELLA YOU WANT TO MAKE OTHERS MONEY OR DO YOU RELY ON THE CHUMP CHANGE YOUR SERVICE PROVIDES TO SWINDLE PEOPLE.I WANT TO HEAR FROM SOMEBODY WHO HAS MADE 25 GRAND OFF YOUR PICKS.ANYBODY CAN CALL THEMSELVES A SERVICE ITS A FRAUD AND THEY LURE IN LOSERS WHO MIGHT BE HAVING A BAD WEEK.TOTAL SCAM LIKE I ALWAYS SAY IF I AM GOOD WHY DO I WANT TO MAKE OTHER PLAYERS MONEY WHO I DONT EVEN KNOW.

ERIC FIND A CLOSE FRIEND OR A FAMILY MEMBER WITH A LOT OF MONEY AND MOVE TO VEGAS AND REALLY FIND OUT HOW GOOD YOU ARE.
 

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wish you nothing but the best. over the years you have shown you don't pump yourself up too much when you are winning and you don't avoid posting your record when you aren't. hope jack has the pay service link up soon and hope to see you at the top. good luck
 

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Nit-wit Jim I live in vegas and know how good I am , and how good I have been for 9 years since I quit coaching at unlv. Also my business is a legal licensed nv corp. If you had a clue about business you would know why I have this, it is called being able to pay myself every 2 weeks and taxes for ssi and medicare.If I did not own some type of business for my winnings could not get ssi/medicare or insurance at a cost I can afford that is woth anything and that is a far as I will go with my personal business.

Least I pay my fair share of taxes each 1/4 and year how about you?

You have no clue at times.

Now go play your little 200 buck bets then cry when you lose a whole 800 bucks and don't have the money to buy a table, must of been from walmart for only 800 buck, most good tables go for 1800 and up. I know it was made of beaver wood, nothing like going all out for the dinning room table jimbo. yes you are a business person , some clown that wanted to open a ice cream joint and needed a partner to do it:D

Now go back to your job sniffing the bath room seats at the ymca to make sure they are clean. Do you shine shoes there also? Or is that the new corp you are going to start up infront of Legal Seafoods, hell your just like underdog will start calling you shoe-shine boy.
 
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