--in news shortly--appears all those who pointing fingers and Rove and Cheney for Valierie Phlame case might have a little apologizing and groveling due 
Good one coming
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Never cared in the least about that situation and still don't now that Richard Armitage is being fingered.
If it is Armitage he is still part of the dirty, corrupt, murderous, team.
Richard L. Armitage, who served as Deputy Secretary of State during President George W. Bush's first term, has emerged as a key witness in the CIA leak probe," Kenneth R. Bazinet and James Gordon Meek reported (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/419364p-354152c.html) in the May 20, 2006, New York Daily News.
"Armitage has been questioned several times, but is not expected to be indicted by the federal grand jury investigating who outed CIA spy Valerie Plame to journalists in 2003, sources said." However, Armitage's "testimony could hurt" I. Lewis Scooter Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's "indicted former chief aide," or Karl Rove, President George W. Bush's "political guru," Bazinet and Meek wrote. "Two sources familiar with the case said Armitage, Rove and Libby all had contacts with the press about Plame. Unlike Rove and Libby, Armitage appears to have tried to dissuade reporters from writing about her."
[edit]Profiles
Armitage, considered to be a conservative "neo con" (neo-conservative), is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.[1] (http://www.foreignpolicy2000.org/convention/) He is one of the signers of the January 26, 1998, Project for the New American Century PNAC letter (http://theindependentvoice.tripod.com/theindependentvoice/index.blog?entry_id=417960) to President William Jefferson Clinton.[2] (http://www.channel4.com/news/2003/special_reports/pnacletter.html) He is also a former board member for CACI International, the private military contractor, which "is being investigated by no less than 5 US agencies for possible contract violations" and "employed four interrogators at Abu Ghraib prison" in Iraq, one of whom was singled out by General Taguba in his report on abuses of Iraqi detainees at the prison.[3] (http://counterpunch.org/palmer06152004.html)
"Most recently, Richard Armitage was the President of Armitage Associates. Previously, he served with the rank of Ambassador as the Coordinator for Technical and Humanitarian Assistance to the newly independent states of the former Soviet Union. President George Herbert Walker Bush appointed him as a Presidential Special Negotiator for the Philippines Military Base Agreement, a Special Mediator for Water in the Middle East and as a Special Emissary to Jordan during the 1991 Gulf War. In addition, Richard served in the Pentagon as Assistant Secretary of Defense and Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense. He attended the U.S. Naval Academy and then completed four tours of duty in Vietnam."[4] (http://www.results.gov/leadership/bio_16.html)
"Richard Armitage, one of the Iran-Contra plotters, was a board member of Database Technologies (DBT)/ChoicePoint Inc before taking office under George Bush Jr. ... Choicepoint is a partner of data mining company SAIC whose web site proclaims it has "developed a strategic alliance with ChoicePoint Incorporated to provide our clients with quick and effortless information retrieval from public records data. ChoicePoint Incorporated maintains thousands of gigabytes of public records data.""[5] (http://www.counterpunch.org/solo10012003.html)
"In the 1980 Reagan campaign Mr. Armitage was senior advisor to the Interim Foreign Policy Advisory Board, which prepared the President-Elect for major international policy issues confronting the new administration. From 1981 until June 1983 Mr. Armitage was Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for East Asia and Pacific Affairs in the Office of the Secretary of Defense." [6] (http://www.ifpafletcherconference.com/army2000/bios/armitage_rt.htm)
"Armitage, who was denied a 1989 appointment as Assistant Secretary of State because of links to Iran-Contra and other scandals, served as Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs in the Reagan years. U.S. Government stipulations in the Oliver North trial specifically named Armitage as one of the DoD officials responsible for illegal transfers of weapons to Iran and the Contras."
Richard L. Armitage, who served as Deputy Secretary of State during President George W. Bush's first term, has emerged as a key witness in the CIA leak probe," Kenneth R. Bazinet and James Gordon Meek reported (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/419364p-354152c.html) in the May 20, 2006, New York Daily News.
"Armitage has been questioned several times, but is not expected to be indicted by the federal grand jury investigating who outed CIA spy Valerie Plame to journalists in 2003, sources said." However, Armitage's "testimony could hurt" I. Lewis Scooter Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's "indicted former chief aide," or Karl Rove, President George W. Bush's "political guru," Bazinet and Meek wrote. "Two sources familiar with the case said Armitage, Rove and Libby all had contacts with the press about Plame. Unlike Rove and Libby, Armitage appears to have tried to dissuade reporters from writing about her."
[edit]Profiles
Armitage, considered to be a conservative "neo con" (neo-conservative), is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.[1] (http://www.foreignpolicy2000.org/convention/) He is one of the signers of the January 26, 1998, Project for the New American Century PNAC letter (http://theindependentvoice.tripod.com/theindependentvoice/index.blog?entry_id=417960) to President William Jefferson Clinton.[2] (http://www.channel4.com/news/2003/special_reports/pnacletter.html) He is also a former board member for CACI International, the private military contractor, which "is being investigated by no less than 5 US agencies for possible contract violations" and "employed four interrogators at Abu Ghraib prison" in Iraq, one of whom was singled out by General Taguba in his report on abuses of Iraqi detainees at the prison.[3] (http://counterpunch.org/palmer06152004.html)
"Most recently, Richard Armitage was the President of Armitage Associates. Previously, he served with the rank of Ambassador as the Coordinator for Technical and Humanitarian Assistance to the newly independent states of the former Soviet Union. President George Herbert Walker Bush appointed him as a Presidential Special Negotiator for the Philippines Military Base Agreement, a Special Mediator for Water in the Middle East and as a Special Emissary to Jordan during the 1991 Gulf War. In addition, Richard served in the Pentagon as Assistant Secretary of Defense and Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense. He attended the U.S. Naval Academy and then completed four tours of duty in Vietnam."[4] (http://www.results.gov/leadership/bio_16.html)
"Richard Armitage, one of the Iran-Contra plotters, was a board member of Database Technologies (DBT)/ChoicePoint Inc before taking office under George Bush Jr. ... Choicepoint is a partner of data mining company SAIC whose web site proclaims it has "developed a strategic alliance with ChoicePoint Incorporated to provide our clients with quick and effortless information retrieval from public records data. ChoicePoint Incorporated maintains thousands of gigabytes of public records data.""[5] (http://www.counterpunch.org/solo10012003.html)
"In the 1980 Reagan campaign Mr. Armitage was senior advisor to the Interim Foreign Policy Advisory Board, which prepared the President-Elect for major international policy issues confronting the new administration. From 1981 until June 1983 Mr. Armitage was Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for East Asia and Pacific Affairs in the Office of the Secretary of Defense." [6] (http://www.ifpafletcherconference.com/army2000/bios/armitage_rt.htm)
"Armitage, who was denied a 1989 appointment as Assistant Secretary of State because of links to Iran-Contra and other scandals, served as Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs in the Reagan years. U.S. Government stipulations in the Oliver North trial specifically named Armitage as one of the DoD officials responsible for illegal transfers of weapons to Iran and the Contras."
I thought the boys had set up Scooter for fall guy.
This new fall guy would be from same club, about same level. Or maybe he's just a decoy?? I'm sure someday we will have at least 80% of the truth.
Seems about right for one of these cases. Not sure most of the public gives a chit anymore. Believe Iraq and Gas prices are on there minds.
This new fall guy would be from same club, about same level. Or maybe he's just a decoy?? I'm sure someday we will have at least 80% of the truth.
Seems about right for one of these cases. Not sure most of the public gives a chit anymore. Believe Iraq and Gas prices are on there minds.
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Might I suggest you wait till someone is found quilty of something instead of jumping from one conspiracy to another--might save further :mj1:
"DTB, waiting for that "good one" you promised...."
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get out of the liberal blog sites and into credible journalism and you'll find it Smurph.
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get out of the liberal blog sites and into credible journalism and you'll find it Smurph.
How about the apologies owed to the American citizen by the Bush administration for their various maladies? Think we'll hear any of those? That is, unless you are going to back up Dubbya's claim in the 2004 debate that he couldn't think of any at that time. Maybe he's come up with one and is having a speechwriter write an apology.
Here's one from me. I apologize for doggedly saying that Clinton's indescretion and denying it was no big deal to me, and shouldn't be to others. I was wrong. It is, and was, a big deal, when you try to explain it to a child. And we should expect more from our leaders if they want us to have faith in them, and what they say.
Do you have any, Wayne? Anyone else? I won't wait for any from Dubbya, Cheney or Rummy, that's for sure.
I think a consistent apology we should hear from legislators in the coming elections should be: "I'm sorry I put my faith in this administration when believing them about the information presented to us at that time about Iraq."
There should be others coming...
Here's one from me. I apologize for doggedly saying that Clinton's indescretion and denying it was no big deal to me, and shouldn't be to others. I was wrong. It is, and was, a big deal, when you try to explain it to a child. And we should expect more from our leaders if they want us to have faith in them, and what they say.
Do you have any, Wayne? Anyone else? I won't wait for any from Dubbya, Cheney or Rummy, that's for sure.
I think a consistent apology we should hear from legislators in the coming elections should be: "I'm sorry I put my faith in this administration when believing them about the information presented to us at that time about Iraq."
There should be others coming...
Chad I can think of several appologies I've made here on diff issues with out someone asking--the latest was for not reading entire text before I did my chirping.
Have always been lukewarm on rumsey--been adamant on my disdain for Bush Senior going back on his word to Shites in 1st gulf --Hated GW expenditure on Medicare act as ever escalating expense--said I would vote against our 1st time KY GOP Gov regardless of who ran against him next time--did not care at all for GW's 1st attorney general as FAR right to nth degree by my standards--was and am big fan of Powel despite his diff with admin--just to name a few off top of my head. I try to call em like I see em but no doubt my politics lean hard conservative.
Have thought about Cheney and other than his draft defermants not much I dislike about the fellow.
Have always been lukewarm on rumsey--been adamant on my disdain for Bush Senior going back on his word to Shites in 1st gulf --Hated GW expenditure on Medicare act as ever escalating expense--said I would vote against our 1st time KY GOP Gov regardless of who ran against him next time--did not care at all for GW's 1st attorney general as FAR right to nth degree by my standards--was and am big fan of Powel despite his diff with admin--just to name a few off top of my head. I try to call em like I see em but no doubt my politics lean hard conservative.
Have thought about Cheney and other than his draft defermants not much I dislike about the fellow.
OK dude, it's been like 3 days and I'm still waiting for the "good one" you promised. I assume if you had something, it would have been posted by now.
How many threads in this forum the last week or so were created on completely false or non-existent info?
How many threads in this forum the last week or so were created on completely false or non-existent info?
Chad, you will be waiting a while for Rumsfeld to apologize, Hell he is calling Americans Nazis today who disagree with war.
Sham, I am of German and Irish descent, so I'm probably towards the top of the Nazi and terrorist lists these days. Let alone my afiliation with the left wing communist fascist lunatic society.
The big plus for me is that I get to claim both St. Patrick's Day and Octoberfest as major holiday seasons, so I'm legally drunk in both the Spring and Fall. So I got THAT going for me...which is nice.
The big plus for me is that I get to claim both St. Patrick's Day and Octoberfest as major holiday seasons, so I'm legally drunk in both the Spring and Fall. So I got THAT going for me...which is nice.
It's old news now--
Armitage Confirms He Was Novak Source on Plame
Robert Novak
By E&P Staff
Published: August 30, 2006 4:30 PM ET
NEW YORK Former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage was the first Bush administration to reveal undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame name in 2003, the New York Times and the Washington Post have now confirmed.
A lawyer involved in the CIA leak case said that Armitage was the first and main source of columnist Robert Novak, who disclosed Plame as a CIA officer, the Times disclosed.
Michael Isikoff and David Corn first reported this over the weekend, previewing their book, "Hubris," based on their sources. Plame's married name is Valerie Wilson, as she is married to former Ambassador Joseph Wilson.
"In the accounts by the lawyer and associates," The New York Times reports today, "Mr. Armitage disclosed casually to Mr. Novak that Ms. Wilson worked for the C.I.A. at the end of an interview in his State Department office. Mr. Armitage knew that, the accounts continue, because he had seen a written memorandum by Under Secretary of State Marc Grossman.
"Mr. Grossman had taken up the task of finding out about Ms. Wilson after an inquiry from I. Lewis Libby Jr., chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney. Mr. Libby?s inquiry was prompted by an Op-Ed article on May 6, 2003, in The New York Times by Nicholas D. Kristof and an article on June 12, 2003, in The Washington Post by Walter Pincus."
Plame's attorney has said she is considering adding Armitage to the lawsuit against Bush administration officials. It is not known how this latest revelation will help or hurt the legal case now going forward against Libby.
http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003085429
To no surprise back when all this 1st started Corn was on fox calling for Rove and Cheney and others heads--with the blah blah blab jail time tune other liberals were beating the drum on.
---and speaking of Rove see where he has dropped 22 lbs this summer--when asked how he managed he said "clean living"
Armitage Confirms He Was Novak Source on Plame
Robert Novak
By E&P Staff
Published: August 30, 2006 4:30 PM ET
NEW YORK Former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage was the first Bush administration to reveal undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame name in 2003, the New York Times and the Washington Post have now confirmed.
A lawyer involved in the CIA leak case said that Armitage was the first and main source of columnist Robert Novak, who disclosed Plame as a CIA officer, the Times disclosed.
Michael Isikoff and David Corn first reported this over the weekend, previewing their book, "Hubris," based on their sources. Plame's married name is Valerie Wilson, as she is married to former Ambassador Joseph Wilson.
"In the accounts by the lawyer and associates," The New York Times reports today, "Mr. Armitage disclosed casually to Mr. Novak that Ms. Wilson worked for the C.I.A. at the end of an interview in his State Department office. Mr. Armitage knew that, the accounts continue, because he had seen a written memorandum by Under Secretary of State Marc Grossman.
"Mr. Grossman had taken up the task of finding out about Ms. Wilson after an inquiry from I. Lewis Libby Jr., chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney. Mr. Libby?s inquiry was prompted by an Op-Ed article on May 6, 2003, in The New York Times by Nicholas D. Kristof and an article on June 12, 2003, in The Washington Post by Walter Pincus."
Plame's attorney has said she is considering adding Armitage to the lawsuit against Bush administration officials. It is not known how this latest revelation will help or hurt the legal case now going forward against Libby.
http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003085429
To no surprise back when all this 1st started Corn was on fox calling for Rove and Cheney and others heads--with the blah blah blab jail time tune other liberals were beating the drum on.
---and speaking of Rove see where he has dropped 22 lbs this summer--when asked how he managed he said "clean living"
If that's the determiner, then he'll fatten up again in election season.---and speaking of Rove see where he has dropped 22 lbs this summer--when asked how he managed he said "clean living"
Thanks for the post, DTB - I knew you'd come through eventually. So where is the groveling line?
Who Really Ended Valerie Plame's Career?
Friday , September 01, 2006
By Brit Hume
Now some fresh pickings from the Political Grapevine:
Controversy Continues
It was a story that consumed official Washington for three years and was fanned by media reports. But a Washington Post editorial today says the revelation that Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, not a partisan gunslinger, was the original leaker in the Valerie Plame case undercuts what it calls "one of the most sensational charges leveled against the Bush White House that it orchestrated the leak of Ms. Plame's identity to ruin her career" and punish her husband, Bush critic Joe Wilson. The Post flatly declares that it is now clear those accusations are "untrue."
Wilson's attorney continues to insist that White House officials publicly tried to punish him by outing Valerie Plame as a CIA operative and says the paper wrongly implied that he was sent to Niger at his wife's suggestion, though one investigation found just that.
But The Post claims Wilson should have expected that questions about the origins of his mission would point to Plame, saying: "The person most responsible for the end of Ms. Plame's CIA career is Mr. Wilson" himself.
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and some other tidbits
Cinematic Controversy
A British film premiering one day before the 5th anniversary of 9/11 depicts the graphic assassination of President Bush.
The mock documentary, titled "Death of a President," takes an imaginary look back at the president's death at the hands of a Chicago sniper and the subsequent overzealous investigation of an Arab suspect. The film suggests the Bush administration fosters xenophobia and stifles civil liberties in the War on Terror.
The White House has declined to comment on the movie, but the head of the Toronto Film Festival calls it "the most dangerous and breathtakingly original film" of the year.
Miller Time
When pro-illegal immigration demonstrators march in downtown Chicago this weekend, they'll be backed by Miller Brewing Company, which paid more than $30,000 to sponsor the rally.
Immigration activists say they're increasingly relying on corporate donors eager to tap the growing Latino market. But critics say Miller's money is also supporting the protester's goal of ending deportation and legalizing all 12 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S.
One marketing guru tells the Chicago Tribune that corporations should steer clear of the immigration debate, calling it "no different than a company sponsoring groups for or against abortion."
Rewriting Classics
A controversial new Turkish curriculum has put a new spin on 100 classic children's stories by inserting Islam.
New books feature boy puppet Pinocchio telling his maker, Gepetto, "Thanks be to Allah," while one of the Three Musketeers now converts to Islam.
Even Mark Twain's Tom Sawyer ? who went to extraordinary lengths to avoid schoolwork, much less religious devotion ? is transformed into a willing student of Islamic prayers.
And the new Turkish version of the naively optimistic Pollyanna now says she believes in the end of the world, as predicted in the Koran.
?FOX News Channel's Aaron Bruns contributed to this report.
Friday , September 01, 2006
By Brit Hume
Now some fresh pickings from the Political Grapevine:
Controversy Continues
It was a story that consumed official Washington for three years and was fanned by media reports. But a Washington Post editorial today says the revelation that Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, not a partisan gunslinger, was the original leaker in the Valerie Plame case undercuts what it calls "one of the most sensational charges leveled against the Bush White House that it orchestrated the leak of Ms. Plame's identity to ruin her career" and punish her husband, Bush critic Joe Wilson. The Post flatly declares that it is now clear those accusations are "untrue."
Wilson's attorney continues to insist that White House officials publicly tried to punish him by outing Valerie Plame as a CIA operative and says the paper wrongly implied that he was sent to Niger at his wife's suggestion, though one investigation found just that.
But The Post claims Wilson should have expected that questions about the origins of his mission would point to Plame, saying: "The person most responsible for the end of Ms. Plame's CIA career is Mr. Wilson" himself.
+++++++++++++++++++++++
and some other tidbits
Cinematic Controversy
A British film premiering one day before the 5th anniversary of 9/11 depicts the graphic assassination of President Bush.
The mock documentary, titled "Death of a President," takes an imaginary look back at the president's death at the hands of a Chicago sniper and the subsequent overzealous investigation of an Arab suspect. The film suggests the Bush administration fosters xenophobia and stifles civil liberties in the War on Terror.
The White House has declined to comment on the movie, but the head of the Toronto Film Festival calls it "the most dangerous and breathtakingly original film" of the year.
Miller Time
When pro-illegal immigration demonstrators march in downtown Chicago this weekend, they'll be backed by Miller Brewing Company, which paid more than $30,000 to sponsor the rally.
Immigration activists say they're increasingly relying on corporate donors eager to tap the growing Latino market. But critics say Miller's money is also supporting the protester's goal of ending deportation and legalizing all 12 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S.
One marketing guru tells the Chicago Tribune that corporations should steer clear of the immigration debate, calling it "no different than a company sponsoring groups for or against abortion."
Rewriting Classics
A controversial new Turkish curriculum has put a new spin on 100 classic children's stories by inserting Islam.
New books feature boy puppet Pinocchio telling his maker, Gepetto, "Thanks be to Allah," while one of the Three Musketeers now converts to Islam.
Even Mark Twain's Tom Sawyer ? who went to extraordinary lengths to avoid schoolwork, much less religious devotion ? is transformed into a willing student of Islamic prayers.
And the new Turkish version of the naively optimistic Pollyanna now says she believes in the end of the world, as predicted in the Koran.
?FOX News Channel's Aaron Bruns contributed to this report.
