Gotta love that call on 4th and 1...

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Glenn Quagmire

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Well now we're getting into semantics. I didn't say you were criticizing my PLAY, I said you and Bombs were coming in here to criticize what I was saying. Which you were both doing after I half-jokingly said I was counting my -9 bet as a winner. I wasn't actually counting it as a winner of course, but my point was from that point forward they only had to outscore NY by 3 points the rest of the game. If you scan the thread again you will see that you made a flippant remark about a team never being able to come back from a 7-0 deficit. Whatever. Not a big deal. I guess it just surprises me that there are people on this site who actually look for a quote or a phrase to jump on somebody for. Not saying you're one of them gman, but I've had encounters with others who, for one reason or another, seem to only come to this site to criticize others.
 

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glenn:

it has been, and always will be, a bit humorous when people say a team "doesn't want to be there" after one possession, or that a team is "going to roll" after one possession.

hell, in the last few days alone, colorado state took the opening kickoff and just dominated navy in the first 5:00 of the game. and then central florida took the opening kickoff and scored in three or four plays. needless to say, those teams were pretty soundly beaten the rest of the way.

i would never criticize another handicapper or his plays. in fact, there's good reason to believe new england is the right side tonight.
but that doesn't mean i'm not going to find it a bit funny when guys are calling for domination or saying a team doesnt want to be there after one drive of football. that's just nonsense.
 
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gman,

Point noted. And I understand that people go overboard a bit when it comes to one drive or the beginning of the game. Maybe I did speak too soon. However, in my defense I usually don't make claims like that. I just think people were underestimating the Pats big time tonight. And I sincerely did think, based on that first drive and how they were able to dominate, that they would score a lot of points tonight. They have 21 at half and I'm guessing they will get over 30 pretty easily. Last week I had TB +5 at NE and said, after NE's first drive, that they were in a lot of trouble. That too was only one drive, but it set the tone for the entire game. They ended up getting crushed 28-0. Just my opinion, but I think SOMETIMES you can see things in the way a team is playing that indicates early on whether they will play well or play poorly. I admit I've made what looks like pretty outrageous claims on those two games the last two weeks, but I don't think either one of them were wrong.
 

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looks like NE is dominating to me...anyways, you could still be OK with the under play Glenn...but your going to sweat this one out because I think it will be pretty close to 45...the Pat's plays and play calling has been real solid except for that pick...And Al Michael's made it clear that NE wants to win this game for the 3rd seed just like you said Glenn...the fake screen draw was smooth and the 4 and 1 was a great call!...and now thats x 4...pulling for you Glenn NE should be running the ball the second half
 

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Thanks Thom. I will probably just sit on those two picks. I'm very tempted to take the over 17 in 2h though. That bet is at an even payout right now. That would almost guarantee that I would push if I lost the NE -2/Under 45 bet, because it would almost have to go over 17 in the 2h in order for me to lose that bet. Whaddya think?
 

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Wait... I may be on crack. That may not be a bright idea. I'm just ASSUMING that NE will score some points in the 2h, but I suppose it's possible that they could get blanked 10-0 or 13-0. What are the odds of that though?
 

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I don't play the props just like the games...I have always felt like you kill your odds of coming ahead when you add more plays but thats just me and I'm sure there are many many many people that would disagree with me here at MJ's...I personally like NE in the second half but like I said I don't play the props
 

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I didn't play anything. I just don't feel good about the NE -2/U 45 bet at all. I suppose it's no biggie if I win the NE -9 bet. I was just thinking about counteracting the losing under bet with an over 17 bet in the 2h. I think there will be some points put up in the 2h. The Jets D isn't playing very hard and who knows when the backups will come in for NE?
 

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Oops. Not anymore. I'm really regretting not taking the over 17 in the 2h. That would have at least counteracted the loss on the NE -2/Under 45 bet. Now I'm going to have to sweat the NE -9 bet too. I have to say I'm really surprised by this. NE is the last team on earth I would expect to let up in this situation. That 4th and 3 would have iced the game. Now they give the Jets a ton of confidence. Terrible.
 

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Sorry, my math is awful. I still have at a chance at the push on that bet. That is if NE can get the Jets off the field here.
 

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Ok, now that bet is a loser. Pretty funny actually, I said that turnovers might lead to some easy points for the Pats and that's exactly what happened. Not too happy about the split, but I guess it could have been worse.
 

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Nah, you don't lose with a push. I was just screwing up the math. But now the Pats will score at least a FG. Too much time to run out the clock.
 

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Oh I see what you're saying. I'm pretty sure a push is just a push with my book. But damn, I should look into that now that you say that. Are you watching this game?! Good Lord! I'm through trying to predict what will happen. Although with over 3 minutes to go and a 17-point lead I don't like my chances here.
 

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Now I really have to question you if you didnt know a tie is a loss in a teaser. And you are betting real money? Might want to do a bit more research!
 
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