Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas sex scene
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little much for a kid though and my 13 year old wants to play this game. The violence don't bother me because if you raise your kids right they know the difference between movies, games, ect., and real life. Now sex sceens are different, I don't want to be a damn grandfather 
TJBELL said:
It wasnt??????? What the fukc did you expect then :scared WAY over the top for kids :wtf:
Agent 0659 said:
I didn't say it wasn't over the top for kids and YES any sex scenes in kids video games are WRONG!!!! The way they were described were explicit and I was glad they were not.
One site said they showed actual private parts and it doesn't! As far as I am concerned, I figured it was a lot worse.
Was just making a point that it was far less worse than I figured it would be. (Is that OK with you Agent????)
You blow cops heads off and knife women in this game. The story revolves around corrupt cops who are worse people than the gang bangers.
. . . but a sex scene which isn't even accessible without another download causes the controversy.
Makes no sense to me.
. . . but a sex scene which isn't even accessible without another download causes the controversy.
Makes no sense to me.
Your 13 year old...too much for kids..YOU THINK? HELLO PEOPLE, have parents lost their damn minds in this country? This game is rated M for MATURE - 17 years old OR OVER ONLY. This would be the equivalant of an NC-17 movie. Do you take your 13 year old to R rated movies or NC-17 just because they want to and then say wow, uhm, there's nudity and cursing in this movie!? How can parents mind or want their kids to play this game? Are we too afraid to say NO to our kids now, too afraid to be seen as uncool parents? This game is about killing people in a million different ways, beating them up, running over and killing cops, stealing cars and being a pimp with a bunch of half naked women. Yes, its a game adults can enjoy, but gee I wonder why its rated M, seems like a game I would definitely want my kid to play, regardless of whether you think they know the difference.
Total bullsh1t that Congress wasted one second worrying about this game. The rating board did its job. This board rates games according to whats in them. But some 8 year olds parents didnt want to say no to him, so they bought him this game because he wanted it, then they were like ah wow gee look this game looks pretty bad. And here we are. Great job by parents. Whatever happened to looking at games and reviewing them before you buy them for your kids?
This whole issue is ridiculous. Its as if we have to dumb down movies and games for the benefit of "the kids". This is why they make games for KIDS and games for ADULTS!
Just another reminder to me that parents as a whole in this country are all to willing to abdicate their responsibility as parents in favor of more stringent laws that make it easier for them because god forbid we learn how to say no to our kids, to tell them they cant do something. :cursin:
Total bullsh1t that Congress wasted one second worrying about this game. The rating board did its job. This board rates games according to whats in them. But some 8 year olds parents didnt want to say no to him, so they bought him this game because he wanted it, then they were like ah wow gee look this game looks pretty bad. And here we are. Great job by parents. Whatever happened to looking at games and reviewing them before you buy them for your kids?
This whole issue is ridiculous. Its as if we have to dumb down movies and games for the benefit of "the kids". This is why they make games for KIDS and games for ADULTS!
Just another reminder to me that parents as a whole in this country are all to willing to abdicate their responsibility as parents in favor of more stringent laws that make it easier for them because god forbid we learn how to say no to our kids, to tell them they cant do something. :cursin:
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Amen Ace!!!
Let's see in our society,how many kids get violent over the substance found in video games compared to how many kids become rapists due to the same content!
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Let's see in our society,how many kids get violent over the substance found in video games compared to how many kids become rapists due to the same content!
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Hey TJ, yeah I just dont get it, dont get it at all. I hate the government being involved in crap like this. How about this:
"Mom, can I have this game that has violence and nudity and pimps and killing and sex in it?"
"NO"
"Mom, can I have this game that has violence and nudity and pimps and killing and sex in it?"
"NO"
But they seem to still buy it for their kids. What's wrong with this picture???? Can't parents say it's rated M so.........................NO!!!!!!!
How's life near DC BTW???
How's life near DC BTW???
What about R rated movies that look "cool"? Do parents buy them and then complain there is too much bad language and nudity in it?
Bottom line - ratings are there for a reason, so adults can enjoy adult products and kids can have appropriate products made for them. Theyre not there so you can rate something for adults, then parents buy it for their kids, then complain its not for kids. They rate things for a reason.
Man DC is freaking hot as piss and humid too. Love the heat but I need to move to a better golfing climate.
Bottom line - ratings are there for a reason, so adults can enjoy adult products and kids can have appropriate products made for them. Theyre not there so you can rate something for adults, then parents buy it for their kids, then complain its not for kids. They rate things for a reason.
Man DC is freaking hot as piss and humid too. Love the heat but I need to move to a better golfing climate.
Game's Rating Change May Signal Crackdown
Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:09 p.m. ET
By RON HARRIS Associated Press Writer
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The video game industry's decision to give an adults-only rating to the best-selling "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" because of explicit sexual content could signal the start of a crackdown on raunchy games.
The rating change followed intense pressure from politicians and media watch groups. Retailers reacted swiftly _ Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Target Corp. and Best Buy Co. said Wednesday they would pull all copies from their store shelves nationwide. Circuit City Stores Inc., the nation's No. 2 consumer electronics chain, joined the list Thursday.
Rockstar Games, the producer of "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas," said it has stopped making the current version of the game, which includes graphic sex scenes that can be unlocked with an Internet download. The game was released in October with an "M" rating, for players 17 and older.
Sen. Hilary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, applauded the change but said she was disturbed the sexual content appeared on store shelves in the first place. She asked the Federal Trade Commission to investigate and called on the Entertainment Software Rating Board to do more to police game content.
"Apparently the sexual material was embedded in the game. The company admitted that," Clinton said. "The fact remains that the company gamed the ratings system."
Rep. Joe Baca, D-Calif., said this week the video game industry needs a good dose of government oversight and renewed a call for a law requiring the FTC to determine if the video game industry's labeling practices are unfair or deceptive.
"Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" was last year's top console game, selling more than 5.1 million copies in the U.S., according to market analyst NPD Group. Xbox and PC versions were released last month.
Rockstar's parent company, New York-based Take Two Interactive Software Inc., acknowledged for the first time that the sex scenes were built into the retail version of the game. Company officials previously suggested that a modification created by outsiders added the scenes.
"The editing and finalization of any game is a complicated task and it's not uncommon for unused and unfinished content to remain on the disc," Take-Two spokesman Jim Ankner told The Associated Press.
In a statement, ESRB chief Patricia Vance said the sex scenes were programmed by Rockstar "to be inaccessible to the player." But she also acknowledged that the "credibility and utility" of the industry-run board's initial "M" rating had been "seriously undermined."
Rockstar said it would provide new labels to any retailer willing to keep selling the games and offer a downloadable patch to fix the sexual content in PC versions. The company also is working on a new, more secure version, to be rated "M," for mature.
A computer program known as Hot Coffee allows users to unlock the sex scenes. Such modifications _ or "mods" _ are wildly popular among the hardcore gaming community, and have been shown to extend the retail longevity of games. "Half-Life," for example, is still sold years after its release because of a Counter-Strike mod that allows for detailed counter-terrorist shoot-'em-up action.
Take-Two president Paul Eibeler said "the decision to re-rate a game based on an unauthorized third party modification presents a new challenge for parents, the interactive entertainment industry and anyone who distributes or consumes digital content."
The Parents Television Council, one of several media watchdogs that have criticized Rockstar and the ESRB, called on the game publisher to recall the game and offer refunds.
"I tip my cap to that first step of showing responsibility," said Tim Winter, the council's executive director. "Phase two needs to be absolutely getting to the bottom of this coding issue. How did it get into that game? How did it get past the ratings board?"
Take-Two said net sales could drop by more than $50 million this quarter, and lowered its financial expectations for the year to set aside funds for returns of the games.
Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:09 p.m. ET
By RON HARRIS Associated Press Writer
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The video game industry's decision to give an adults-only rating to the best-selling "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" because of explicit sexual content could signal the start of a crackdown on raunchy games.
The rating change followed intense pressure from politicians and media watch groups. Retailers reacted swiftly _ Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Target Corp. and Best Buy Co. said Wednesday they would pull all copies from their store shelves nationwide. Circuit City Stores Inc., the nation's No. 2 consumer electronics chain, joined the list Thursday.
Rockstar Games, the producer of "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas," said it has stopped making the current version of the game, which includes graphic sex scenes that can be unlocked with an Internet download. The game was released in October with an "M" rating, for players 17 and older.
Sen. Hilary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, applauded the change but said she was disturbed the sexual content appeared on store shelves in the first place. She asked the Federal Trade Commission to investigate and called on the Entertainment Software Rating Board to do more to police game content.
"Apparently the sexual material was embedded in the game. The company admitted that," Clinton said. "The fact remains that the company gamed the ratings system."
Rep. Joe Baca, D-Calif., said this week the video game industry needs a good dose of government oversight and renewed a call for a law requiring the FTC to determine if the video game industry's labeling practices are unfair or deceptive.
"Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" was last year's top console game, selling more than 5.1 million copies in the U.S., according to market analyst NPD Group. Xbox and PC versions were released last month.
Rockstar's parent company, New York-based Take Two Interactive Software Inc., acknowledged for the first time that the sex scenes were built into the retail version of the game. Company officials previously suggested that a modification created by outsiders added the scenes.
"The editing and finalization of any game is a complicated task and it's not uncommon for unused and unfinished content to remain on the disc," Take-Two spokesman Jim Ankner told The Associated Press.
In a statement, ESRB chief Patricia Vance said the sex scenes were programmed by Rockstar "to be inaccessible to the player." But she also acknowledged that the "credibility and utility" of the industry-run board's initial "M" rating had been "seriously undermined."
Rockstar said it would provide new labels to any retailer willing to keep selling the games and offer a downloadable patch to fix the sexual content in PC versions. The company also is working on a new, more secure version, to be rated "M," for mature.
A computer program known as Hot Coffee allows users to unlock the sex scenes. Such modifications _ or "mods" _ are wildly popular among the hardcore gaming community, and have been shown to extend the retail longevity of games. "Half-Life," for example, is still sold years after its release because of a Counter-Strike mod that allows for detailed counter-terrorist shoot-'em-up action.
Take-Two president Paul Eibeler said "the decision to re-rate a game based on an unauthorized third party modification presents a new challenge for parents, the interactive entertainment industry and anyone who distributes or consumes digital content."
The Parents Television Council, one of several media watchdogs that have criticized Rockstar and the ESRB, called on the game publisher to recall the game and offer refunds.
"I tip my cap to that first step of showing responsibility," said Tim Winter, the council's executive director. "Phase two needs to be absolutely getting to the bottom of this coding issue. How did it get into that game? How did it get past the ratings board?"
Take-Two said net sales could drop by more than $50 million this quarter, and lowered its financial expectations for the year to set aside funds for returns of the games.
TJBELL said:Good points!!!!
Move to Florida! Many months of great golfing weather!!!!!
I'm thinking about moving down there. The only thing I'm gonna miss are the PISTONS!!!
