Grantham Sees Huge Opportunity in "Anti-Risk"

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Found this excerpt very interesting as too often we have more cheerleaders for the market pounding the drums

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Grantham Sees Huge Opportunity in "Anti-Risk"
By Russel Kinnel | 07-30-07 | 06:00 AM

Jeremy Grantham says he's spotted the third great investing opportunity of his career. The first was small caps in the 1970s. The second was real estate, Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities, and value stocks during the tech bubble in 2000. Before you get too excited, I should make clear that the main opportunity today, in Grantham's view, is getting out of the way and watching the markets plummet in what he calls a slow-motion train wreck. Grantham made this call in a report published July 25--a day before the Dow got 300 points sliced off the top (talk about instant gratification!).


Grantham's firm, GMO, runs mostly institutional mutual funds but also runs half of Vanguard U.S. Value (VUVLX) and all of Evergreen Asset Allocation (EAAFX). Grantham has always had a bearish tilt, so I typically take his warnings with a grain of salt. Still, he has been very much on the money with his warnings about the S&P 500 in 2000 and recommendations of foreign small caps, emerging markets, and timber.

In Grantham's view, we are in a financial-debt-soaked bubble that he's labeled the Blackstone Peak. Real estate and bonds are wobbly, and equities may weaken in October 2008. Grantham is a big believer in election cycles, which essentially means that the government floods the economy with money to get itself re-elected and then the market has a big hangover the following year when the bill comes due.

Grantham says that the excesses of private equity, hedge funds, and subprime debt mean lots of the economy and markets are leveraged to the gills and the end won't be pretty. He posits that in five years half the hedge funds will be out of business and one major bank will go belly up. The first call isn't really that bold when you consider the survivorship rates of hedge funds, but the second is a whopper.

I asked him about that, and he explained that he expects big banks to get burned by loaning money to private equity for a low return. He figures they'll get stuck with a few of those loans and take a bath. Moreover, he points out that most financial crises take down at least one big player.

Grantham calls this new opportunity "anti-risk." He says the opportunity lies more in bonds than stocks. "The ideal way of playing this third great opportunity is perhaps to create a basket of a dozen or more different anti-risk bets, for to speak the truth, none of us can know how this unprecedented risk bubble with its new levels of leverage and new instruments will precisely deflate. Some components, like subprime and junk bonds, may go early, and some equity risk spreads may go later."

Grantham's quarterly letter doesn't go into a lot of detail on what those dozen anti-risk bets should be, but he does express a love for TIPS. Given the substantial risk of inflation over the next 10 years, Grantham figures a yield of 2.4% to 2.6% on TIPS would make them attractive. "So, in recent weeks with TIPS selling between 2.6% and 2.8%, we have that rarest of rare birds, a genuinely cheap asset. Needless to say, where appropriate we have been grateful buyers."

Grantham also says he plans to sell his emerging-markets stocks near the end of the year.

I asked Grantham what else individual investors could do to make some anti-risk bets of their own. The wagers he's making for clients are too complicated for individuals, but he did offer a few ideas in addition to buying TIPS.

? Hold a lot of cash so that you'll have plenty of dry powder to take advantage of cheaper markets in years to come.

? Regular bonds are not too bad to own. (This means core high-quality bonds, such as corporate or Treasury bonds.)

? Short the Russell 2000 and go long on the S&P 500.

The final notion reflects Grantham's view that low-quality small caps will be terrible after many years of outperformance and high-quality large caps will fare well after years of lagging. The S&P 500 isn't a perfect proxy for GMO's definition of high quality, but it's close. Grantham notes that 80% of the companies they consider high quality are in the United States. "If the economy weakens substantially, these stocks will be pure gold," he said. You can see the names GMO considers high quality in the portfolio of GMO U.S. Quality (GQLOX). Unfortunately, you can't buy that fund unless your name is CalPERS.

Grantham's view that real estate and junk bonds are a bad place to be isn't unique. Quite a few savvy investors have sounded the warning on these apparently overheated asset classes. In fact, Morningstar's own REIT analysts have a dim view of their prospects. However, Grantham stands out in his predictions for the breadth and depth of the sell-off. In addition, I haven't heard a lot of people pounding the table for TIPS.

It's an interesting argument and Grantham, like most thoughtful bears, provides a valuable service in challenging bullish assumptions. Will I bail out on everything but TIPS? No, though I already have gotten out of my high-yield and real-estate funds for some of the same reasons spelled out above. In addition, I already have lots of blue-chip exposure. I might raise my TIPS weighting a percentage point or two, though.

In fact, GMO's funds aren't entirely bailing on markets either, as they typically have tight constraints. The Evergreen Asset Allocation portfolio is instructive. It's out of small caps but has plenty of exposure to core bonds and stocks as well as TIPS and emerging markets.

You can read all of Grantham's commentary and the firm's seven-year return outlook here, though it requires a short registration form.

http://news.morningstar.com/articlenet/article.aspx?id=201833&pgid=wwhome1a&lpos=Commentary
 

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dooley it is an interesting article. though disagree with putting most of your money in tips (inflation hedge bonds).

I mean you are maknig 2% over inflation. if that.
first there is always the question of taxes, and interest is taxed in most countries at the highest rate. probably losing to inflation.

also the inflation rate is low, will not argue, but it may often be higher than the government stated numbers....debate for another day.

also depends on the region you live, for instant in Canada Ontario the inflation rate could be around 3%, however in Alberta, BC, Sask, you are probably at over 6-8% inflation. so if you buy the Cdn. hedged inflation bonds and live in the west all of your prices are going faster than the interest earned.

when the market goes down there is a number of bears that come out.

in Canada there have been two pundits who went to cash early this year/late last year.

both talk about why the markets will go down the only thing they leave out is how the avg. investor made +15% since they went bearish.

market needs about two more brutal weeks, before they are break even.

in the US a hedge fund manager shorted the market made 10% that week. and claimed it could be another 5% downside and then a rebound or the worse bear martket in the last 100 years. what a predicton either small dip and then recovery or a brutal bear market.

in general the sub prime is a mess and have no idea of the troubles, however inflation is not running at 10% (maybe Alberta) in most areas of the world inflation is low or dropping. also there is economis growth in most regions including the US.

and employment is high. I mean there are companies advertising for people to fill high paying skilled jobs.......

if Unemployment was over 10% along with inflation, would agree the sky was falling.

also most companies reported have had great numbers, large amounts of cash on balance sheet.ect

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by the way market timing does not work, and costs most investors money, who believe they can.....time the markets

ie: before last weeks carnage, sold TD monthly income fund. bought it at 11.40 and in two years earned me 15.6% per year for two years, counting div.

well decided to sell it, going to put a fund I like better in the account. so sold it, out of the two weeks managed to sell it on the worse day.

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not really looking at market timing myself, but I did pull some money out of my small and mid cap index etfs and put the money in the large cap sector
 

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dooley I often also move money from one sector to another. for instant Reits are not working, I have 3 small positions and will probably sell one, of coarse they trade below nav (well 2of the 3) and yield 6% on average. however no one cares

own Brookfield asset management which owns a large amount of brookfield properties (just a better way to play it), and Brookfield properties came out with great results last week. the stock went up that day however now just fell back.... no one wants real estate... probably little upside in Brookfield asset management as a result.

in this market have not bought anything for about two weeks, or made a trade long....just waiting. got stopped out of two stocks. may get a good sale on some stocks.

overall bullish on the market, just in the short term markets are drifting downward. Toronto up over 150 yesterday, on oil takeover and markets closes up 3pts.

will stay be for the most part invested. if the downturn remains will sell more covered calls, and also buy puts, which are still for the most part cheap....for most companies.... cheap insurance.

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Personally, am very concerned about where the market may be headed, all things considered. Not thinking I want to have as much hanging out there in areas that have been great in the past few quarters. I've seen ideas and tips here from three guys I respect in the financial sector, and I pose this to each of you - in a basic sense.

I currently want to move all of my allocation that I have in the Nasdaq 100 fund (which I offset with some in a Money Market) and the Money Market Funds into something more in tune with today's outlook. Wayne, I know you favor some International Funds (China, at least), I see the other two speaking highly of Large Cap S&P 500 and Short Term Bonds. I'm a little concerned about some of the players in my Short Term Bond holdings (Bear Stearns, a couple mortgage companies, etc.) but realize Bonds to be a great hedge against dropping stock prices in the big picture. I also have the option of Conservative or Moderate Investor Funds.

What do you guys think would be a good way to go, if you had to allocate 100% of the pension fund right now? I know you would need more details but just trying to get a feel for what you think. Whatever I do, I will keep it pretty conservative right now...have done very well with this plan for a while now, and happy to hold on to my gains and see how things shake out.

Appreciate any ideas, and whatever I do, I do on my own - no one else is responsible for giving an opinion. Thanks!
 

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Further background - it's not a huge sum of money, just want to protect it. I am plenty active with regular stocks in my Roth and regular cash stock accounts. So this is more of a protect and defend account.
 

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My first quick crude asset allocation guess with limited background would be something to the tune of

40% domestic large cap
20% Int'l equities
20% domestic bonds
5% mid cap
5% small cap
5% real estate
5% emerging market debt (new pimco offering gives you bonds in local currency so a play against the dollar as well)

Gold sold off a bit today have done alright on some gold trades so if you are skeptical on real estate could substitute that 5% stake to gold (I buy through ticker GLD - gold ETF)

Thinking behind this portfolio being that small/mid caps have been on a tear as well as int'l everything the last several years and have out performed the large caps.

However, I think Warren Buffett said something to the tune of this.... that any ship can float in a rising economic tide (economic boom/expansion), but that many will sink when their hulls are exposed in a lowering economic tide (not so good times).

IMO the large caps are the better protected boats in a low economic tide.

Chad when you say all of your allocation from QQQQ are you referring to your entire retirement fund or just the allocation you have invested in QQQQ?
 

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Thanks for your thoughts. I meant specifically the money I had in the Q...admittedly I had a disproportionate percentage in that over the past couple of quarters, but I thought that area would do well. I want to reallocate everything in my fund to be a better balance moving forward, as I am not feeling very strong about where our markets are headed. I understand the domestic large cap usually always weathers the storm and performs well long term, and that I should not try to time the markets. But I think by being more "safe than sorry" with the equity outlook for a while is the way I want to proceed. I respect your opinion, but not sure I want to leave 40% of my portfolio exposed to world markets and US stock performance in the near term. I probably will do something similar to what you suggest, although I do not have all the options you advise. Will probably be able to simulate much of it though. Thanks again for the thoughts...I like the perspective and you have a good plan, no doubt.
 

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Hate to give an opinion on other peoples money Chad--I use pretty simple method of rarily investing in companies with no tanglible assets--have never liked internet stocks for most part--try to invest in companys that have made money in past and will prob continue to do so.
With the global economies firing away at unprecented levels--I can't see need for oil - metals- utilities-shipping ect diminishing. Was probably a little heavy in these areas at one time.

Am probably50% to 60% in cash now with lots of sells on stops.

The stocks that I purchase next will prob be in sectors above--that have good dividend history--little debt--PE under 12
 

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Thanks for your thoughts. I meant specifically the money I had in the Q...admittedly I had a disproportionate percentage in that over the past couple of quarters, but I thought that area would do well. I want to reallocate everything in my fund to be a better balance moving forward, as I am not feeling very strong about where our markets are headed. I understand the domestic large cap usually always weathers the storm and performs well long term, and that I should not try to time the markets. But I think by being more "safe than sorry" with the equity outlook for a while is the way I want to proceed. I respect your opinion, but not sure I want to leave 40% of my portfolio exposed to world markets and US stock performance in the near term. I probably will do something similar to what you suggest, although I do not have all the options you advise. Will probably be able to simulate much of it though. Thanks again for the thoughts...I like the perspective and you have a good plan, no doubt.

Chad - what fund company does your plan use?
 
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