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I have just saw this proposition bet and I really liked it.

Peyton Manning to run more than 1.5 Yd

I have seen all 19 games that the colts have played this season and in 7 of them he ran for more than 1.5 Y's and in the other games (9) in most of them the did not ran at all and in some he ran for lost yardage.

In those 7 games that he ran for more than 1.5 yd he played against good defenses like jacksonville, dallas, miami, cincy.

My feeling is that when you have against you a good defense , sometimes you are not going to be able to find open receivers forcing the QB to throw it away or to try to run to escape from the defense to avoid the sack.

In this case I think he can cover this .

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR OPINIONS

thanks

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the Bears have allowed in 18 games 8 times to run the QB more than 1.5 yds.

So its a record of 8-10

However in the playoffs they have allowed 8 yds from the QB in each game.

I think it is a great opportunity.
 

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Sacks don't count as rushing yards. You're in the clear on that one. They count as rushing in college, but not NFL.
 

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so the what do you think about this play, I like it bery much now that you clear to me that matter

what do you think?
 

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FWIW, I like this a lot, Jimmyboy......

Manning showed last week that he can scramble (a little bit) when absolutely necessary, and he's gonna want this thing bad enough that he will do anything to get it done.
Hell, for a couple measly yards, I like the risk.
 

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that is exactly how I am feeling about it sharky, if the sacks do not count as rushing yards I think we have no problem at covering this bet

thanks and good luck sharky
 

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if youre confident the bears win do it, dont forget the kneel downs at the end of the game if the colts win could kill this prop
 

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SACK YARDAGE: In the NFL, yards lost on the play are added as negative yardage to the team's passing totals; however, the quarterback's individual passing total remains unchanged
 

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so the real question is will Peyton avoid a sack and take off across the line of scrimmage.

Something tells me in this game he will not have time to recognize the sack in time to run and his helmet will be knocked sideways across his face so Peyton will be looking out his helmet hole.

Of course there could be a called run play for Peyton to get a first down. And if he does that a few times, the play wins.

the trouble with these props is you better think about every scenario if you are putting any kind of money at all down.

Lets say you are pretty much hammered and have a thousand bucks on this prop bet. Then at the end of the game with Colts winning, Manning takes a knee twice losing 2 or 3 yards that he had gained earlier in the game.

I don't care much for that realization of defeat.

I think mostly prop bets are a waste of my time.

Just wait for Rexbulder to come in with his MVP play of the Superbowl and you can make some cash.

Rex - where are you dude ?
 
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the kneel downs affect this play ? I do not think so.

They do not count as loss of yardage in the running from the qb right?
 

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the kneel downs affect this play ? I do not think so.

They do not count as loss of yardage in the running from the qb right?
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this is how books clean up on prop bets.

If you don't know the answer to this question, you better find out.

to me, the QB has the ball in his hands for minus yards , it has to be negative yards against someone. The center who snapped the ball ?

more likely the QB. It may take a NFL referee to find out the answer for sure. Or maybe Madden would know. I can try to catch him on his cell phone in the bus.

the rat bastids.
 

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jimmyboy

Not sure if you have much background with donkeys. But before you can teach a donkey anything , you have to be smarter than the donkey.

One time years ago on the farm, I was trying to get a donkey to go into the barn. He refused and I was pretty pissed. I had tried everything.

So my grandfather comes over with a two by four and smacks the donkey right above his nose. The donkey turned and ran into the barn.

I said Grandpa, how did you know to do that ? He said , first you have to be smarter than the donkey.

In our case the books are my grandfather and they want us in the barn without no pecos.


KOD
 

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Kneel downs DO COUNT as rushing yards. But you gotta figure that would result in 2-3 yards at most. Of course there's that occassional kneel down to end the first half that could come in to play as well. That would suck if he was sitting on 3 yards from 1 sack scramble and kneels down a couple times to make the bet a loser.

Because the bet seems so easy to win, it probably isn't.

What's the payline on it? + money or -?
 

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Kneel downs DO COUNT as rushing yards. But you gotta figure that would result in 2-3 yards at most. Of course there's that occassional kneel down to end the first half that could come in to play as well. That would suck if he was sitting on 3 yards from 1 sack scramble and kneels down a couple times to make the bet a loser.

Because the bet seems so easy to win, it probably isn't.

What's the payline on it? + money or -?

I strongly agree, prop bets are set up to make the losing bet look tempting. Why else would they offer them? Peyton is about as nimble as a log and he usually will try to throw the ball away instead of scrambling. I have a feeling the Bears will win the line of scrimmage battle. Why not just bet on the coin toss? Same thing
 

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I do not know where to find it, I have tries to look at the nfl rules but could not find anything on the Kneel down.

Anybody know for sure if the caount or does not count for losing yardage?

thanks

jimmyboy
 

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If you look at at game stat page, you'll see that the kneel downs count as a rush, almost always for -1 yard. Look at the Colts-Pats game - Manning had one kneel down at the end of the game for -1 yard. He had 1 rush for 1 yard before that, ended with 2 rushes for 0 yards.

I remember a specific case where this affected my fantasy team several years ago. This stat does count. Sacks do not, kneel downs do.
 
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