Has it really come to this?

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Prayer before McCain rally in Iowa:

"There are millions of people around this world praying to their God -- whether it's Hindu, Buddha, Allah -- that [McCain's] opponent wins for a variety of reasons," Pastor Arnold Conrad said. "And, Lord, I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they're going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens."

There are sooooooo many things wrong here I'm not sure where to begin.
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hey hh. little off topic. But how is mommy life going? Nice pictures agent sent me of the house.:00hour . Baby is so pretty. courto and I can not wait until it is our turn.
 

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hey hh. little off topic. But how is mommy life going? Nice pictures agent sent me of the house.:00hour . Baby is so pretty. courto and I can not wait until it is our turn.

hello captain! nice to see you around these parts again.

mommy life is great - you should join the fun :SIB

come out and visit
 

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Prayer before McCain rally in Iowa:

"There are millions of people around this world praying to their God -- whether it's Hindu, Buddha, Allah -- that [McCain's] opponent wins for a variety of reasons," Pastor Arnold Conrad said. "And, Lord, I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they're going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens."

There are sooooooo many things wrong here I'm not sure where to begin.
:nooo:

it would have been much more acceptable if the preacher had just said,......"GOD DAMN AMERICA"!.......

that would keep most on THIS forum coming back for 20 years...
 

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it would have been much more acceptable if the preacher had just said,......"GOD DAMN AMERICA"!.......

that would keep most on THIS forum coming back for 20 years...

As Palin said you need to move forward and stop living in the past. Funny the only people that i hear thisgarbage from is Fox news and you. The rest of us moved forward. If you still want to play this silly game do you have any views on Hagge?

Different Standards for Black and White Preachers

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Rudy Giuliani's priest has been accused in grand jury proceedings of molesting several children and covering up the molestation of others. Giuliani would not disavow him on the campaign trail and still works with him.

Mitt Romney was part of a church that did not view black Americans as equals and actively discriminated against them. He stayed with that church all the way into his early thirties, until they were finally forced to change their policies to come into compliance with civil rights legislation. Romney never disavowed his church back then or now. He said he was proud of the faith of his fathers.

Jerry Falwell said America had 9/11 coming because we tolerated gays, feminists and liberals. It was our fault. Our chickens had come home to roost, if you will. John McCain proudly received his support and even spoke at his university's commencement.

Reverend John Hagee has called the Catholic Church the "Great Whore." He has said that the Anti-Christ will rise out of the European Union (of course, the Anti-Christ will also be Jewish). He has said all Muslims are trained to kill and will be part of the devil's army when Armageddon comes (which he hopes is soon). John McCain continues to say he is proud of Reverend Hagee's endorsement.

Reverend Rod Parsley believes America was founded to destroy Islam. Since this is such an outlandish claim, I have to add for the record, that he is not kidding. Reverend Parsley says Islam is an "anti-Christ religion" brought down from a "demon spirit." Of course, we are in a war against all Muslims, including presumably Muslim-Americans. Buts since Parsley believes this is a Christian nation and that it should be run as a theocracy, he is not very concerned what Muslim-Americans think.

John McCain says Reverend Rod Parsley is his "spiritual guide."

What separates all of these outrageous preachers from Barack Obama's? You guessed it. They're white and Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not. If it's not racism that's causing the disparity in media treatment of these preachers, then what is it?

I'm willing to listen to other possible explanations. And I am inclined to believe that the people these preachers go after are more important than the race of the preacher. It's one thing to go after gays, liberals and Muslims - that seems to be perfectly acceptable in America - it's another to accuse white folks of not living up to their ideals.

I think there is another factor at play as well. The media is deathly afraid of calling out preachers of any stripe for insane propaganda from the pulpits for fear that they will be labeled as anti-Christian. But criticism of Rev. Wright falls into their comfort zone. It's easy to blame him for being anti-American because he criticizes American foreign and domestic policy.

If Rev. Wright had preached about discriminating against gay Americans or Muslims, there probably would not have been any outcry at all. That falls into the category of "respect their hateful opinions because they cloak themselves in the church."

But one thing is indisputable - the enormous disparity in how the media has covered these white preachers as opposed to Rev. Wright. Have you ever even heard of Rod Parsley? As you can see from what I listed above, all of these white preachers have said and done the most outlandish and offensive things you can imagine - and hardly a peep.

If the disparity in coverage isn't racist, then what is it?


Lets not forget about pastor Ted Haggart kurby kurby
 

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As Palin said you need to move forward and stop living in the past. Funny the only people that i hear thisgarbage from is Fox news and you. The rest of us moved forward. If you still want to play this silly game do you have any views on Hagge?

Different Standards for Black and White Preachers

Email Print posted by Cenk 03/19/2008 12:02:26 PM EST
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Rudy Giuliani's priest has been accused in grand jury proceedings of molesting several children and covering up the molestation of others. Giuliani would not disavow him on the campaign trail and still works with him.



Mitt Romney was part of a church that did not view black Americans as equals and actively discriminated against them. He stayed with that church all the way into his early thirties, until they were finally forced to change their policies to come into compliance with civil rights legislation. Romney never disavowed his church back then or now. He said he was proud of the faith of his fathers.

Jerry Falwell said America had 9/11 coming because we tolerated gays, feminists and liberals. It was our fault. Our chickens had come home to roost, if you will. John McCain proudly received his support and even spoke at his university's commencement.

Reverend John Hagee has called the Catholic Church the "Great Whore." He has said that the Anti-Christ will rise out of the European Union (of course, the Anti-Christ will also be Jewish). He has said all Muslims are trained to kill and will be part of the devil's army when Armageddon comes (which he hopes is soon). John McCain continues to say he is proud of Reverend Hagee's endorsement.

Reverend Rod Parsley believes America was founded to destroy Islam. Since this is such an outlandish claim, I have to add for the record, that he is not kidding. Reverend Parsley says Islam is an "anti-Christ religion" brought down from a "demon spirit." Of course, we are in a war against all Muslims, including presumably Muslim-Americans. Buts since Parsley believes this is a Christian nation and that it should be run as a theocracy, he is not very concerned what Muslim-Americans think.

John McCain says Reverend Rod Parsley is his "spiritual guide."

What separates all of these outrageous preachers from Barack Obama's? You guessed it. They're white and Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not. If it's not racism that's causing the disparity in media treatment of these preachers, then what is it?

I'm willing to listen to other possible explanations. And I am inclined to believe that the people these preachers go after are more important than the race of the preacher. It's one thing to go after gays, liberals and Muslims - that seems to be perfectly acceptable in America - it's another to accuse white folks of not living up to their ideals.

I think there is another factor at play as well. The media is deathly afraid of calling out preachers of any stripe for insane propaganda from the pulpits for fear that they will be labeled as anti-Christian. But criticism of Rev. Wright falls into their comfort zone. It's easy to blame him for being anti-American because he criticizes American foreign and domestic policy.

If Rev. Wright had preached about discriminating against gay Americans or Muslims, there probably would not have been any outcry at all. That falls into the category of "respect their hateful opinions because they cloak themselves in the church."

But one thing is indisputable - the enormous disparity in how the media has covered these white preachers as opposed to Rev. Wright. Have you ever even heard of Rod Parsley? As you can see from what I listed above, all of these white preachers have said and done the most outlandish and offensive things you can imagine - and hardly a peep.

If the disparity in coverage isn't racist, then what is it?


Lets not forget about pastor Ted Haggart kurby kurby


its all easier to understand when you concede to the fact that MANY in this country are closet racists. the KKK and other events in this country's past aren't that far back. Hell, have a few beers with most people, let them think you agree with them, and its amazing how many of them will outright tell you they are racist.

I really expect taht should obama win, some racist will , well, you know.
 

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Prayer before McCain rally in Iowa:

"There are millions of people around this world praying to their God -- whether it's Hindu, Buddha, Allah -- that [McCain's] opponent wins for a variety of reasons," Pastor Arnold Conrad said. "And, Lord, I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they're going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens."

There are sooooooo many things wrong here I'm not sure where to begin.
:nooo:

That depends on ones prespective

From conservative point of view I see soooo many things wrongs with

--those that have no prob with pres candidate who attended his uncle and mentors for twenty years with radical GD America views or liberal proffesors like Colorado's (Ward Churchill) teaching radical conspiracy/anti U.S. rhetoric

sooooo-you see--2 sides to every coin.:shrug:
 

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Prayer before McCain rally in Iowa:

"There are millions of people around this world praying to their God -- whether it's Hindu, Buddha, Allah -- that [McCain's] opponent wins for a variety of reasons," Pastor Arnold Conrad said. "And, Lord, I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they're going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens."

There are sooooooo many things wrong here I'm not sure where to begin.
:nooo:

What I have underlined is over the top, yes, but I see absolutely nothing wrong with asking God for anything. Prayer should be specific; if people don't want Obama to be pres, that's the way they should be praying. However, no real Christian should be able to extrapolate the above.
 

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there is no difference to the hate that radical muslims have towards their opponets, as the far religious right have towards anyone whom doesnt follow them lock, stock, and barrel. Thes extreme religious zealots are dangerous and severely out of touch with reality, and are very capable of murdering anyone whom opposes their misdirected ideas. At one time in his career, John McCain would have never tolerated this kind of behavior, and is quite sad to watch his legacy crumble as he has had to cater to these idiots to win their vote. Many of the positions that McCain has been forced to take this election cycle were positions that he has opposed the vast majority of his career. I think that McCain has never gotten over the ugly smear job done by Cheney and Rove on him in South Carolina.
 

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there is no difference to the hate that radical muslims have towards their opponets, as the far religious right have towards anyone whom doesnt follow them lock, stock, and barrel. Thes extreme religious zealots are dangerous and severely out of touch with reality, and are very capable of murdering anyone whom opposes their misdirected ideas. At one time in his career, John McCain would have never tolerated this kind of behavior, and is quite sad to watch his legacy crumble as he has had to cater to these idiots to win their vote. Many of the positions that McCain has been forced to take this election cycle were positions that he has opposed the vast majority of his career. I think that McCain has never gotten over the ugly smear job done by Cheney and Rove on him in South Carolina.

Yep I see them wearing hoods and chopping heads all the time--and on hood issue--who do you see wearing them in U.S. protest--your liberal family of radicals--

Maybe we can make little wager on how many headlines from diff countries a day we can each find -you with Christians committing atrocities
vs me with Muslims doing same.

We on?--or are you just bumping them liberal gums again?
 

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Yep I see them wearing hoods and chopping heads all the time--and on hood issue--who do you see wearing them in U.S. protest--your liberal family of radicals--

Maybe we can make little wager on how many headlines from diff countries a day we can each find -you with Christians committing atrocities
vs me with Muslims doing same.

We on?--or are you just bumping them liberal gums again?

Christians got their kill on back from the 1500s-1700s... now its the Muslims turn
 

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"Has it really come to this?
Is it ignorance or bliss?
A nations mournful sigh
This world will always welcome wackos
As time goes by

Idolaters and such
It just seems
much too much
The fundamental lies apply
As time goes by

And when two candidates woo
To the gentile or the jew
They both can do the dew
Your fate is drawing nigh
As time goes by

Obama or McCain
Either one will bring much pain
There's not much you can dooooooooooo
But for those who seek the truth
You'll simply have to stand in line
At your local voting booth"
 
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