StevieD, djv, etc.- always welcome your opinions & posts. I don't agree w/some of them, but I could very well be wrong and looking to see where my logic is astray. Don't ever think I'm attacking you or your train of thought. One thing I really like about this forum is there is so much one can learn. All posts , even those against me, are welcome, if explained. That being said I just wanted to add that I'm not sure what you mean by leaving out Denny & Arnie? I don't listen to Dennis Miller, (Good sig on him from the Simsons tho), and Arnie is only throwing his hat in the ring. If he could delegate and achieve the desired results I think it would open a lot of eyes- Personally I think this is what Bush is doing w/ mediocre results. Of course we have all these other problems to attend to regarding the Economy, Home Security, Power Distribution, etc. and Iraq, although Bush put us in the Iraq situation. Now it looks as though Cruz Bustamonte is in the lead for the CA Gov. race. Might as well open the borders cause thats what I see if he is elected. Just can't understand how ppl are expected to go thru the legal process, or secure our borders when we pass legislation allowing Driver's licenses, and such to those here Illegally. I had a very hard time putting myself thru College because of tuition, Student aid and so on even though I was a Vet. Now we even give Undocumented Immigrants reduced tuition. Guess I'm a racist- even though the wife is an Import, (Asian.) Technically I think the term is 'Race Traitor.' Well I'm off this weekend so going to take a ride. Hope your weekend is also a romp. Later, Chan :slomo