np GW, empty rhetoric is what you are good at. Easy to see why you stick to it. Facts and figures get you confused. I understand.
Hillary - Obama Debate: 4/16
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No Jabbers you don't make them--but where you get them--makes the words facts a little misleading.
For some reason you omitted the para graph directly below "Your Source"of graph--
Let me provide your deletion--and let the folks decide.
"Please copy this Chart or download one of the versions below and put it up on your website or print out copies and pass them around! Email copies to your friends! Or best, get together with your friends and put a copy of this chart in an ad in your local newspaper! You don't have to attribute it to anyone, the important thing is to show every American how the Republicans are bankrupting America (while cutting every program they can get away with) and passing their debts to your children and grandchildren, and their children and grandchildren!"
P.S. exposing your sources continuously is getting a little tiresome--but necessary -just in case there are some not up to date--with your operations
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No Jabbers you don't make them--but where you get them--makes the words facts a little misleading.
For some reason you omitted the para graph directly below "Your Source"of graph--
Let me provide your deletion--and let the folks decide.
"Please copy this Chart or download one of the versions below and put it up on your website or print out copies and pass them around! Email copies to your friends! Or best, get together with your friends and put a copy of this chart in an ad in your local newspaper! You don't have to attribute it to anyone, the important thing is to show every American how the Republicans are bankrupting America (while cutting every program they can get away with) and passing their debts to your children and grandchildren, and their children and grandchildren!"
P.S. exposing your sources continuously is getting a little tiresome--but necessary -just in case there are some not up to date--with your operations
Feeling a little like Lieberman here.
Pssst. . . .Dogs. . . .They're saying you don't have to give the source of the artwork. The source of the data is the US Dept. of the Treasury
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Wayne, since you care to call out Jabbers for his lack of referencing the source, perhaps you'd like to share what the source is? Are you hiding it after you went and found it, for some reason? Seems that if it were arguable or reproachable, you would most certainly link it - as you have done repeatedly in the past.
Artwork is sourced with info from the treasury, as Bobby points out. Are you just criticizing for political gain with no real reason?
Artwork is sourced with info from the treasury, as Bobby points out. Are you just criticizing for political gain with no real reason?
No Jabbers you don't make them--but where you get them--makes the words facts a little misleading.
For some reason you omitted the para graph directly below "Your Source"of graph--
Let me provide your deletion--and let the folks decide.
"Please copy this Chart or download one of the versions below and put it up on your website or print out copies and pass them around! Email copies to your friends! Or best, get together with your friends and put a copy of this chart in an ad in your local newspaper! You don't have to attribute it to anyone, the important thing is to show every American how the Republicans are bankrupting America (while cutting every program they can get away with) and passing their debts to your children and grandchildren, and their children and grandchildren!"
P.S. exposing your sources continuously is getting a little tiresome--but necessary -just in case there are some not up to date--with your operations
The truth hurts Wayne.
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The chart has been around for a while. USA/Wall St. But of course it was just a chart with out the comments. There was also info around same time reminding folks there investments have done beter with Dem's in W H. About 2.2% higher. Reb's was like 6.7% the dems 9%. And that is thru all diffeant type off tax situations.
Is it now
--then you and Jabbers should have no problem providing it for us.:0cornAppears to me this was source till proven different.
Does look kinda official--doesn't it
http://www.lafn.org/politics/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html
now all you have to do is show us where this data is on what they claim to be their source of info--
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/govt.htm
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Here's the audited reports, Dogs - Let me know when you find a discrepency
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/feddebt/feddebt.htm
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/feddebt/feddebt.htm
Nice side step Bobby--
believe the challenge was --
Is it now
then you and Jabbers should have no problem providing it for us.:0corn Now I provided link they had up on site and nothing there--then you provide another link with no proof --reports from your link is from 96 when their graph shows 1776 on ????
Your burden of proof has not remotely been met--
Lesson here is don't sip from Jabbers glass when he's putting up his graphs from liberal sites. This is 4th time he's been caught.
I'm going to take a guess and say if that a chart correlating national debt would probably show continuous rise with spikes during times of war or catostrophic events.
4th time I have been "caught"? You have never provided any data to challenge anything I have ever posted. Just provide contradictory info. I won't hold my breath.
Well, I can surely think that the debt probably rises with wars, and I think we know which party probably favors those in most cases (especially the elective ones...:mj07: ). You surely have to spend a lot, to fight a lot...:mj07:
No I posted the sites your suppossedly "factual charts" official charts were derived from--just like this time.
Maybe I need to re-post the data below your latest one--that you somehow managed to omitt.
"Please copy this Chart or download one of the versions below and put it up on your website or print out copies and pass them around! Email copies to your friends! Or best, get together with your friends and put a copy of this chart in an ad in your local newspaper! You don't have to attribute it to anyone, the important thing is to show every American how the Republicans are bankrupting America (while cutting every program they can get away with) and passing their debts to your children and grandchildren, and their children and grandchildren!" :0corn
---and you claim it came from gov website--:mj07:
To be fair, from my perspective, we've seen many graphs and charts, some referenced from some pretty reasonable sites, using data from the Treasury, that are at least very similar to this one.
The simple fact remains that strict conservative economists usually diminish the concern of the debt, with various theories - some which make some sense even to democrats that can admit something from time to time. Conservatives generally lean towards more of a war and defense spending scenario - and those things aren't cheap, and are usually of a new outlook and program enactment, which raises spending - and thus the debt.
My continued problem with conservatives saying the debt is something that should not be worried about that much, even some is good for the financial good of the country, when the debt service that pays for that is money that goes for nothing that helps anyone other than the debt-holder - and more and more these days, that debt is held by foreign interests, some who are very much not looking out for our best interests.
The simple fact remains that strict conservative economists usually diminish the concern of the debt, with various theories - some which make some sense even to democrats that can admit something from time to time. Conservatives generally lean towards more of a war and defense spending scenario - and those things aren't cheap, and are usually of a new outlook and program enactment, which raises spending - and thus the debt.
My continued problem with conservatives saying the debt is something that should not be worried about that much, even some is good for the financial good of the country, when the debt service that pays for that is money that goes for nothing that helps anyone other than the debt-holder - and more and more these days, that debt is held by foreign interests, some who are very much not looking out for our best interests.
