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Skulnik

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This is just a History lesson. I am sending it to all regardless of

party . I bet I know who wouldn't read it -- those afraid of the

truth. It is history and nothing can change it.

The day the Democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was

actually January 3rd 2007, the day the Democrats took over the House

of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th

Congress.



The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the

first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.



For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy

that everything is "Bush's Fault", think about this:

January 3rd, 2007, the day the Democrats took over the Senate and

the Congress:

The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77

The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%

The Unemployment rate was 4.6%

George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS

of JOB CREATION!

Remember that day...

January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House

Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate

Banking Committee.

The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part

of the economy?

BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

THANK YOU DEMOCRATS (especially Barney ) for taking us from 13,000

DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment...to this CRISIS by (among MANY

other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the

economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!

(BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie -

starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US

economy). Barney blocked it and called it a "Chicken Little

Philosophy" (and the sky did fall!)

And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie

Mac? OBAMA

And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?

OBAMA and the Democrat Congress, especially BARNEY!!!!

So when someone tries to blame Bush...

REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007.... THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"

Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of

the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving the economy into

the ditch.

Budgets do not come from the White House.. They come from Congress

and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the

Democratic Party.

Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 &

2009 as well as 2010 & 2011.



In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which

caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly

got tough on spending increases.



For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush

entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running

until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a

massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budget.



And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that

very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and

he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009. Let's

remember what the deficits looked like during that period:

If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the

last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five

years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After

that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that

includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.

In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is "I inherited a deficit that I

voted for,

and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th."

There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us

sends it on!

"The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a

living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living."
 
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That's all you have? Things were going great until the electorate chose to throw out the the majority that single-handedly trashed the constitution more than any other I can remember, passed an unfunded $2T tax cut, roughly $4T and counting unfunded prescription drug biil, $2T in unfunded & unfounded foreign wars, & my ass Barney Frank blocked it cheap ass money housing boom for the benefit of our Wall Street benefactors bottom lines ?!?!?!?

Jesus Fawking Christ. Please punch in your own weight class. Also, please reference your data & quotes......no freaking way you can come up with it on your own.
 

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That's all you have? Things were going great until the electorate chose to throw out the the majority that single-handedly trashed the constitution more than any other I can remember, passed an unfunded $2T tax cut, roughly $4T and counting unfunded prescription drug biil, $2T in unfunded & unfounded foreign wars, & my ass Barney Frank blocked it cheap ass money housing boom for the benefit of our Wall Street benefactors bottom lines ?!?!?!?

Jesus Fawking Christ. Please punch in your own weight class. Also, please reference your data & quotes......no freaking way you can come up with it on your own.

Pipe down Lib, here's your HERO talking shit in 2008.

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Is it true that the original cost of Medicare was grossly underestimated?

Have any good links?
2 years ago
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In 1965, as Congress considered legislation to establish a national Medicare program, the House Ways and Means Committee estimated that the hospital insurance portion of the program, Part A, would cost about $9 billion annually by 1990.v Actual Part A spending in 1990 was $67 billion. The actuary who provided the original cost estimates acknowledged in 1994 that, even after conservatively discounting for the unexpectedly high inflation rates of the early ?70s and other factors, ?the actual [Part A] experience was 165% higher than the estimate.?

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http://blog.heritage.org/2009/08/04/heal?
 

escarzamd

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What does Medicare have to do with your case? I thought this was about a near economic collapse you tried to pin on the 2006-08 Congress? A point which is patently absurd.

Who said I was a liberal? Because I think you rant indiscriminately? Because I disagree with your point? The world does not function on the "if you're not with us, you're against us" philosophy. You are unwilling or unable to put together a coherent argument. It's "we be right liberal" all the time. You need to up your game. You're just a bully.

Puerile.........look it up.
 

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What does Medicare have to do with your case? I thought this was about a near economic collapse you tried to pin on the 2006-08 Congress? A point which is patently absurd.

Who said I was a liberal? Because I think you rant indiscriminately? Because I disagree with your point? The world does not function on the "if you're not with us, you're against us" philosophy. You are unwilling or unable to put together a coherent argument. It's "we be right liberal" all the time. You need to up your game. You're just a bully.Puerile.........look it up.

A nerdy bully?

LOLOL!
 

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What does Medicare have to do with your case? I thought this was about a near economic collapse you tried to pin on the 2006-08 Congress? A point which is patently absurd.

Who said I was a liberal? Because I think you rant indiscriminately? Because I disagree with your point? The world does not function on the "if you're not with us, you're against us" philosophy. You are unwilling or unable to put together a coherent argument. It's "we be right liberal" all the time. You need to up your game. You're just a bully.

Puerile.........look it up.

roughly $4T and counting unfunded prescription drug biil,
Tell me, how much is todays unfunded medicare bill?
Are you for ELIMINATING the prescription drug program?
TIA
 
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escarzamd

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roughly $4T and counting unfunded prescription drug biil,
Tell me, how much is todays unfunded medicare bill?
Are you for ELIMINATING the prescription drug program?
TIA

It doesn't work. The only people that signed up for it were basically forced to do it because they're broke. $250 deductible gets you up to $2100/yr in meds. If you need between around $2100-$5100/yr in meds, that all falls on you, then the gov't kicks back in at 95%. Average retiree has about 5 prescriptions. Unless a generic is available, that's kinda rough. Figure $50/month x 5 drugs = $3000. If generic, it works better, around $1200/ yr at $20/month. Without getting into specific meds, some of which are way more expensive. This is just most common meds. That doesn't count meds for chronic pain, mineral supplements, emphysema, or less common medical problems.

Nobody who has a choice will sign up for it. That's the only reason it has come under projected budget the last couple of years.....lower demand in general & nobody wants in the program because better private deals available. People don't like retrictions on their choices. So we wasted $1T and counting so far on a small subset of patients while 30 million more have to wade into the "free market" .....the whole thing was a boondoggle for Big Pharma.
 

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It doesn't work. The only people that signed up for it were basically forced to do it because they're broke. $250 deductible gets you up to $2100/yr in meds. If you need between around $2100-$5100/yr in meds, that all falls on you, then the gov't kicks back in at 95%. Average retiree has about 5 prescriptions. Unless a generic is available, that's kinda rough. Figure $50/month x 5 drugs = $3000. If generic, it works better, around $1200/ yr at $20/month. Without getting into specific meds, some of which are way more expensive. This is just most common meds. That doesn't count meds for chronic pain, mineral supplements, emphysema, or less common medical problems.

Nobody who has a choice will sign up for it. That's the only reason it has come under projected budget the last couple of years.....lower demand in general & nobody wants in the program because better private deals available. People don't like retrictions on their choices. So we wasted $1T and counting so far on a small subset of patients while 30 million more have to wade into the "free market" .....the whole thing was a boondoggle for Big Pharma.

The way I remember the Prescription Drug Plan,
both parties had plans, Bush just got his instead of the Democrats, I bet both would have been grossly under funded.

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What does Medicare have to do with your case? I thought this was about a near economic collapse you tried to pin on the 2006-08 Congress? A point which is patently absurd.

Who said I was a liberal? Because I think you rant indiscriminately? Because I disagree with your point? The world does not function on the "if you're not with us, you're against us" philosophy. You are unwilling or unable to put together a coherent argument. It's "we be right liberal" all the time. You need to up your game.
You're just a bully.

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